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SusieQQQ said:
They may be a hard sell in Africa, or the part that you come from anyway (they are legal where I come from). But you seem to again forget you are going to America, where the constitution prohibits discrimination of people on any basis including sexual orientation.
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I know s/Africa fairly well and her different communities too. It may be legal but as i said even people of the same town or even same family do not necessarily lead identical lives.
BTW,Do you know why China has made tremendous progress in her 'charm offensive' in Africa in spite of her human rights record?
I can tell you for a fact that any other development partner in many an African country is now playing catch up. why?
 
SusieQQQ said:
Are you for freaking real?

Tell me, can you remember waking up one day and thinking "today I decide I will be heterosexual rather than homosexual"?

At least your children will grow up in a tolerant society so I am glad you are moving to the US.
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Warrior susie, facts please. facts.
 
Britsimon said:
HUH????

There are hundreds of posts in this thread and others with religious statements! Then I ask some questions and get you saying MY comments are off topic???? Shall I just delete all the religious stuff from now on then? I personally have no problem with anyone following any belief they want to - I support that fully. However don't be surprised if I pick up on religious hypocrisy (like unconditional love, but not for gays that want to marry) because I find THAT distasteful.
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I am tired of this gay talk that's all
 
usken go said:
I know s/Africa fairly well and her different communities too. It may be legal but as i said even people of the same town or even same family do not necessarily lead identical lives.
BTW,Do you know why China has made tremendous progress in her 'charm offensive' in Africa in spite of her human rights record?
I can tell you for a fact that any other development partner in many an African country is now playing catch up. why?
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Yes I know why China has made great progress. She pays money, builds roads and hospitals, and sends her soldiers in where she deems it necessary. What's your point? I don't see what a new colonialist has got to do with your religious beliefs....seeing as China is atheist.
 
usken go said:
I know s/Africa fairly well and her different communities too. It may be legal but as i said even people of the same town or even same family do not necessarily lead identical lives.
BTW,Do you know why China has made tremendous progress in her 'charm offensive' in Africa in spite of her human rights record?
I can tell you for a fact that any other development partner in many an African country is now playing catch up. why?
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Because Africa has enormous untapped resources and many greedy eyes are looking that way (including some in Rome).
 
usken go said:
Warrior susie, facts please. facts.
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What was not factual in my post?

ZGREAT said:
I am tired of this gay talk that's all
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Me too but for rather different reasons than you. I am so tired of people using the bible to discriminate against people - apartheid South Africa usef the bible to justify apartheid too by the way - but as I said above luckily people are moving to a tolerant society, it is not a society that really allows cloistering of immigrants either , so at least the next generation will respect the US constitution. And respect science.
 
Okay people, I have to agree is thread is going off topic, so

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Subsequent off topic posts SHALL be deleted regardless of who the poster is!
 
God-Is-Love said:
I'm Christian, I believe in bible. Full of bible is the expression of God's love. He loves EVERYBODY, sinners or righteous. So we can't say God hates gay people. How much He hates sin, He still loves sinners immeasurably.
But I believe homosexuality is a consequence of ...
Anyone can read and easily understand bible @ Romans 1:18-32. It needs less than two minutes to read.
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Yes, that passage is well known among the gay community because Romans 1:26 actually explains it was Gods decision to make them Gay. Finally we can agree on something.
 
Britsimon said:
OK, let me try and break it down a different way for you.

The requirement is for two years of experience in a job at a "certain level". PAUSE THERE. THAT is the requirement.

The "certain level" means a job which would normally require two years of training or experience to perform.

You are NOT required to prove that you had the training or experience - ONLY that you performed the job (at the level required). So - the requirement is 2 years of experience NOT 2 years preceded by a further 2 years. Once you have shown the 2 years experience in the qualifying job, that's all you need to do.
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What a great explanation @Britsimon! I think I got your point now. It is the CO who finally decides whether the type of job presented for qualification needed 2years training.
As an example, if someone comes with two years work experience of a given profession (lets say secretary), the CO will check by himself if that given profession (secretarial work) needs two years training. Then he/she will decide if the applicant can be qualified by work experience. If I'm right
 
God-Is-Love said:
What a great explanation @Britsimon! I think I got your point now. It is the CO who finally decides whether the type of job presented for qualification needed 2years training.
As an example, if someone comes with two years work experience of a given profession (lets say secretary), the CO will check by himself if that given profession (secretarial work) needs two years training. Then he/she will decide if the applicant can be qualified by work experience. If I'm right
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You're forgetting that the work also needs to be in the correct job zone, which your exmaple of a secretary would not be.
 
SusieQQQ said:
You're forgetting that the work also needs to be in the correct job zone, which your exmaple of a secretary would not be.
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EXactly.

So - the O*Net database has already been established with the designation of what jobs meet the requirement, and those that don't. As Susie mentioned, that is denoted by the job zone 4 or above and SVP of 7 and above. The job descriptions are very detailed and specific.

The selectee has to pick a suitable job and build a case demonstrating and proving that their job matches the job described in the O*Net database. The CO may agree or may disagree. In one recent OC case the CO was pre-prepared before the interview (as they had documents submitted in advance). THe CO had chosen a job that did not make the job zone 4. The selectee had documentary proof showing the CO had chosen a more junior but similar position. They reached agreement on the more senior role and the case was approved. However, to be clear, qualifying by work experience needs preparation to avoid a denial. If you can qualify on education, that is by far the easier route.

FYI, I qualified for my H1 visa (which requires a Bachelor degree minimum) based on work experience (I had to show 12 years at the required level - 3 for every year of a US degree) - hence my interest and understanding of this topic. Based on my education, I would NOT have qualified for the H1 NOR would I have qualified for the DV process (but my wife was the selectee so the proof was not needed for the DV case).
 
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