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GodisGreat said:
Please consider me as one of the millions of Americans who are against the idea of making gay marriage legal. The media cannot represent every American.
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The media don't make the laws, and whilst you are entitled to your view, you should understand that the vast majority of those that are against gay marriage are also against most immigration, social programs in any form, abortion rights and the separation of church and state. They are the very same people who are calling to end the DV program specifically because it allows easy immigration to mainly African immigrants. Not so many years ago those very same people were the same ones wanting to maintain segregation based on skin color. An odd bunch of people to align with - but hey - its America so you are free to choose (although you are not free to discriminate/abuse on race, gender, or sexual orientation).
 
rolex123 said:
btw I got this on USICS site :
'USCIS uses this fee to process and maintain your immigrant visa packet and to produce and deliver your Permanent Resident Card (commonly known as a Green Card).'

that means they need the fee for green card delivery not SSN.
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Topic of interest
May be what we should be asking ourselves (explore and demystify) is:
what is SSN ?
What is Greencard
What is Drivers license?
Who is an LPR (legal permanent residence) and what are his/her privileges and rights ?
Who is an an American Citizen and what are the privileges,rights.
How do become a USA v Citizen and whats the process
Part of the fee takes you half way being a US citizen...that's why I have written this for meditation...
 
Britsimon said:
The media don't make the laws, and whilst you are entitled to your view, you should understand that the vast majority of those that are against gay marriage are also against most immigration, social programs in any form, abortion rights and the separation of church and state. They are the very same people who are calling to end the DV program specifically because it allows easy immigration to mainly African immigrants. Not so many years ago those very same people were the same ones wanting to maintain segregation based on skin color. An odd bunch of people to align with - but hey - its America so you are free to choose (although you are not free to discriminate/abuse on race, gender, or sexual orientation).
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You live you life and let others live theirs...
 
Sm1smom said:
No, not true. The GC payment has nothing to do with the SSN delivery. None payment of the fee will only lead to non delivery of the GC, the SSN WILL BE delivered regardless!
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That's good news and will the delay in payment/not paying delay the processing of the GC?
 
Sm1smom said:
You will get your SSN regardless of when or if the $165 fee is paid or not. @Britsimon just explained a couple of posts above yours that without the $165 fee payment you will not get the plastic GC itself. Simply put, that means that is the fee for the cost of producing and sending out the GC. Precisely what do you mean by "previously there was no such payment request" - how previously long ago are you referring to?
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People forget that previously the DV fee was around $800 too... It was only about a year or two that it dropped down to the $330 without the $165 fee being added on.
 
GodisGreat said:
Please consider me as one of the millions of Americans who are against the idea of making gay marriage legal. The media cannot represent every American.
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Are you a US citizen?
Anyway who was talking about the media, I agreee american media is usually rubbish; luckily there are courts that set laws in accordance with the constitution.
 
Simon said:
Dv 2011,2012, interview fee was very high,was it because the USCIS fee was part of the Interview fee paid at the Embassy or how were they paying the USCIS
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Back then the green cards were being produced and delivered for free. The higher fees did not include the GC production as non of that fee was remitted back to USCIS which is the body responsible for producing the GC. All that money was considered to be the DV administrative fee. The fee eventually got reduced to $330, and the additional $165 payable to USCIS for the production and delivery of the GC also got added in February 2013 I believe
 
Britsimon said:
The media don't make the laws, and whilst you are entitled to your view, you should understand that the vast majority of those that are against gay marriage are also against most immigration, social programs in any form, abortion rights and the separation of church and state. They are the very same people who are calling to end the DV program specifically because it allows easy immigration to mainly African immigrants. Not so many years ago those very same people were the same ones wanting to maintain segregation based on skin color. An odd bunch of people to align with - but hey - its America so you are free to choose (although you are not free to discriminate/abuse on race, gender, or sexual orientation).
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Precisely what I was thinking, that the people most agreeing with those views are not only anti immigration but more specifically against people with dark skin immigrating...
 
Sm1smom said:
Back then the green cardwere being produced and delivered for free. The higher fees did not include the GC production as non of that fee was remitted back to USCIS which is the body responsible for producing the GC. All that money was considered to be the DV administrative fee.
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Hm, I think mom that they did actually say the original fee included it all? At least that was the justification used for adding back the $165 as I recall!
 
SusieQQQ said:
Hm, I think mom that they did actually say the original fee included it all? At least that was the justification used for adding back the $165 as I recall!
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Not from what I understood with regards to how the different bodies work. USCIS funding is separate from those of the embassies, USCIS wasn't getting reimbursed for the cost of producing and mailing out the GC since the funds generated by the embassies were being used by the embassies.
 
Simon said:
That's good news and will the delay in payment/not paying delay the processing of the GC?
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Delay in payment may not necessarily delay the processing of the GC itself, but it certainly wouldn't get sent/delivered if the payment isn't received.
 
SusieQQQ said:
People forget that previously the DV fee was around $800 too... It was only about a year or two that it dropped down to the $330 without the $165 fee being added on.
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ohh the difference is not comparable and now I changed my mind wish USCIS fee not to be included during visa process fee at local for ever.
thanks @SusieQQQ
 
rolex123 said:
it would be @ZEGREAT ,
if u c previous visa bulletin (2014) stat the cut off # for Ethiopia was :
FEB : 19,000
MARCH: 24,000
shall we bet on the coming VB number ? I bet 1 to 100 anything to anyone that i say ur's will be current on the next VB.
anything I MEAN like 10 BIRR with 1000birr.
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of let's bet rolex I will go for less than 16000

be 10 birr LOL
 
SusieQQQ said:
Hm, I think mom that they did actually say the original fee included it all? At least that was the justification used for adding back the $165 as I recall!
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Also the $165 fee is not applicable to only DV applicants. It's a fee that must now be paid by anyone who has been issued with an IV via consular processing regardless of whether the visa petition is via DV or Family based. So they couldn't have justified the introduction of the new fee by the fact that DV administrative processing fee has been reduced.
 
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