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rolex123 said:
as per last year thread maximum allowed dollar form bank 3000usd per person , I mean principal applicant and spouse , mean totally 6000usd u can take as per previous thread, but it depends our bank dollar availability when u want to leave it might be higher or lower, but one thing I knew u can not take more than 10,000usd .
rolex123
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Ok...Thank you.
 
rolex123 said:
@GodisGreat , yes authentication of birth certificate and marriage certificate at ' keleketam' not' kebele ' alone has validity period until u certified with MoAf, but once it is authenticated by the MoAf, the authentication is life time, imagine the authenticated document u take with u abroad does it mean u need to get back to ur home land to renew again ? nooooooo, once it is done with Ministry of foreign affair the authenticated document is life time.
the same is tru for education documents
by the way for the marriage certificate authentication is like this :
those who got married before 2000 e.c ( 2007 g.c) the place for authentication is 'sheger menafesha' then MoFa
but those who got married after 2000e.c (2007 g.c) they can authenticate their document at near by kefleketma then MoFa.
@God-Is-Love and @ZGREAT please comment on this .

regards
rolex123
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The guy went to the embassy with a birth certificate 4 years old and they sent him back so that he may go to Kebele and kifleketema to renew it. The kifleketema needs a small paper from Kebele to put their stamp. And next the Ministry of foreign affairs needs the signature and stamp of kifleketema at the back of the certificate before authenticating it.
 
GodisGreat said:
The guy went to the embassy with a birth certificate 4 years old and they sent him back so that he may go to Kebele and kifleketema to renew it. The kifleketema needs a small paper from Kebele to put their stamp. And next the Ministry of foreign affairs needs the signature and stamp of kifleketema at the back of the certificate before authenticating it.
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that means he did not take his authenticated birth certificate from the very beginning to embassy, which means he did not authenticate his birth certificate.
 
GodisGreat said:
They said the sponsor has to pay 160$ ...I was so happy I did not see the form after the interview.
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yap I understood, ya they gave u a form related USCIS ,(united states citizen immigration service payment fee), u need to pay online ( ur sponsore ) 165 per person, per person , for example if u have 3 member including u u need to pay 496usd , but this payment is usally done from USA because there is no only credit service payment form here. If I can I will google and attache the form but it should be paid from USA, BEFORE U ENTERED USA! I am I right @Britsimon ?
 
rolex123 said:
that means he did not take his authenticated birth certificate from the very beginning to embassy, which means he did not authenticate his birth certificate.
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Yes...but the funny part is on the list the embassy gave us to prepare our docs. the only authentication it refers to ministry of foreign affairs is educational docs of the main applicant. It says nothing about authenticating birth certificates and marriage certificates.
 
rolex123 said:
yap I understood, ya they gave u a form related USCIS ,(united states citizen immigration service payment fee), u need to pay online ( ur sponsore ) 165 per person, per person , for example if u have 3 member including u u need to pay 496usd , but this payment is usally done from USA because there is no only credit service payment form here. If I can I will google and attache the form but it should be paid from USA, BEFORE U ENTERED USA! I am I right @Britsimon ?
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They said the same thing about payment in the US through credit card. Thank you.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Agree you often can't change what someone believes, especially if it is a faith-based rather than rational belief, but it is very clear that over time that beliefs can and do change when people move to different societies . And that is why those who come from - for example - African heritage in a part of Africa where it is still illegal to be homosexual can celebrate that pretty soon gay marriage will be legal in every state in the US, or those with heritage from other parts of the world will be happy to now be somewhere women do not get stoned for adultery because they have been raped.

One thing you do have to realise however, is that when you choose to move to a different country, you need to be prepared to adapt to and accept new or different ways of doing things.
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The irony is USA leads the statistics of rape in the world. And you don't stop in your country only but will try to influence the world and Africa through $ aid and stupid politics. Like you are influencing gay marriage to be legal in Africa.
 
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GodisGreat said:
The irony is USA leads the statistics of rape in the world. And you don't stop in your country only but will try to influence the world and Africa through $ aid and stupid politics. Like you are influencing gay marriage to be legal in Africa.
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Good gracious. What statistics are you looking at? Even taking into account that rape is under-reported in many developing countries, I'd be surprised to find it has the highest rape incidence in the world...
And if you have such a problem with US influence then maybe you should consider why you want to move to the US where (1) things like gay marriage are becoming accepted as the norm and (b) your tax money will be used for promotion of these things you so abhor.

Whether or not I agree with anything in principle is not the issue here - but your post is a beautiful example of the culture shock angle I mentioned. And of how people criticise all these things yet still move to the US in a heartbeat when given the chance...

Finally, please don't generalise about Africa. Gay marriage was legal in South Africa before it was legal in the USA.
 
rolex123 said:
@GodisGreat , yes authentication of birth certificate and marriage certificate at ' keleketam' not' kebele ' alone has validity period until u certified with MoAf, but once it is authenticated by the MoAf, the authentication is life time, imagine the authenticated document u take with u abroad does it mean u need to get back to ur home land to renew again ? nooooooo, once it is done with Ministry of foreign affair the authenticated document is life time.
the same is tru for education documents
by the way for the marriage certificate authentication is like this :
those who got married before 2000 e.c ( 2007 g.c) the place for authentication is 'sheger menafesha' then MoFa
but those who got married after 2000e.c (2007 g.c) they can authenticate their document at near by kefleketma then MoFa.
@God-Is-Love and @ZGREAT please comment on this .

regards
rolex123
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ZGREAT said:
nop its expiry date
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birth and marriage certificates have no expiry date. It is true they need authentication, we can call it "renewal". MoF puts its stamp and signature only if they are authenticated at 'kifleketema' level with in the last six months. Otherwise they will send you back to 'kifleketema for another authentication. We can't say "it is expired and have new one" because if you have it once it is for life time.
Authentication = "Renewal"
 
God-Is-Love said:
birth and marriage certificates have no expiry date. It is true they need authentication, we can call it "renewal". MoF puts its stamp and signature only if they are authenticated at 'kifleketema' level with in the last six months. Otherwise they will send you back to 'kifleketema for another authentication. We can't say "it is expired and have new one" because if you have it once it is for life time.
Authentication = "Renewal"
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now it's clear dear love

thanks
 
GodisGreat said:
The irony is USA leads the statistics of rape in the world. And you don't stop in your country only but will try to influence the world and Africa through $ aid and stupid politics. Like you are influencing gay marriage to be legal in Africa.
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Hey,time out here! Can we go back to DV Issues, please? As i said, we know what can and what cannot sell at all. It was a an idea based debate. We need not go the emotional way!
Let this debate end.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Good gracious. What statistics are you looking at? Even taking into account that rape is under-reported in many developing countries, I'd be surprised to find it has the highest rape incidence in the world...
And if you have such a problem with US influence then maybe you should consider why you want to move to the US where (1) things like gay marriage are becoming accepted as the norm and (b) your tax money will be used for promotion of these things you so abhor.

Whether or not I agree with anything in principle is not the issue here - but your post is a beautiful example of the culture shock angle I mentioned. And of how people criticise all these things yet still move to the US in a heartbeat when given the chance...

Finally, please don't generalise about Africa. Gay marriage was legal in South Africa before it was legal in the USA.
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You know what @SusieQQQ, there is an amharic verse saying
..."Lam esat weledech:: Endatlisew fejat: endatitewew lijwa honebat".
Let me try to translate it even though it won't give you the exact sense.
..."A cow gave birth to fire, she couldn't give it her breast feed because it is fire; she also couldn't ignore because it her born". @ZGREAT, @rolex123 and @GodisGreat may correct the translation.
What i want to mention is, how much one hates what US is doing, he/she never say i don't want to go. Because it is USA.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Agree you often can't change what someone believes, especially if it is a faith-based rather than rational belief, but it is very clear that over time that beliefs can and do change when people move to different societies . And that is why those who come from - for example - African heritage in a part of Africa where it is still illegal to be homosexual can celebrate that pretty soon gay marriage will be legal in every state in the US, or those with heritage from other parts of the world will be happy to now be somewhere women do not get stoned for adultery because they have been raped.

One thing you do have to realise however, is that when you choose to move to a different country, you need to be prepared to adapt to and accept new or different ways of doing things.
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Even in my hometown in my country,i get to choose the kind of life i want to lead. Talk about two guys who saw someone carrying some roses, one wondered who the lucky sweetheart was while the other wondered whose remembrance the flowers were meant for. Do. not take it that emigrating and wholesale acceptance the ways the people you meet are one and the same. No
 
God-Is-Love said:
how is the waiting dear @ZGREAT? Six days left for the coming VB.
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am honestly tired of it and I have a feeling that they will increase only 3000 and I might get current on March ! and may be my forms didn't complete processing

it's awkward that I was told it was complete on Oct and now they say they almost complete processing ;

let's see what February have in store for me !!
 
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