I need advice regarding Naturalization

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Approval and oath

If we got e-mail messages "In line for oath scheduling", does this mean that our cases have been finally approved? (We both got forms with "tests passed" and "congratulations, your case is recommended for approval" at the end of the interview). Or the final approval happens only immediately before the oath?
 
That means your applications have been approved! Congratulations. You won't have been placed in the oath queue otherwise. Just wait for your oath letter and oath date, and then you're set.
 
Dear all! Again I need an advise... My life is so full of different events and always sends me surprises... In 2011 I submitted a provisional patent- actually, University on my behalf. The University has even given me a small grant to develop this technology. This work was very good, an on April 12 this year we filed a full patent application. There is a company which has expressed much interest in this technology, they agreed to be a potential holders of an exclusive license. But then they changed their mind and started pressing on my University and blackmailing me so that we would withdraw the patent. The Head of the Lab where I do research gave me a condition: either I do what the Company wants (because this Company is his sponsor), or I will lose my job. I have not done anything illegal. I followed every direction of the University Patent Office, and all my claims are original, this Company was making some test samples according to my technology, but they have not done anything new and original. They basically want to get a commercially valuable invention for free. My Lab boss knows that I am going through the naturalization. He demands that I would give up my patent application, otherwise I would not only lose job as a faculty and researcher, but also not get my citizenship, if the Company starts legal actions against the University and me as an inventor. Could they damage my naturalization now, when I have already had my interview? Are they just threatening me to get my invention in their hands?
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Looks like this company just wants to get a hold of your IP without paying for it. You can really fire back at them and say that you will sue them for blackmailing you. They do not have any effect on your immigration status whatsoever.
 
Marusia_GC said:
If we got e-mail messages "In line for oath scheduling", does this mean that our cases have been finally approved? (We both got forms with "tests passed" and "congratulations, your case is recommended for approval" at the end of the interview). Or the final approval happens only immediately before the oath?
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Congrats, you've been approved. It's not 100% final until you complete the oath, but they're not going to undo the approval unless you do something to disqualify yourself between now and the oath (e.g. commit a crime, excessive overseas travel), or they discover that you failed to disclose material information at the interview.
 
Marusia_GC said:
If we got e-mail messages "In line for oath scheduling", does this mean that our cases have been finally approved? (We both got forms with "tests passed" and "congratulations, your case is recommended for approval" at the end of the interview). Or the final approval happens only immediately before the oath?
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Congratulations!!!
 
madgu-gc2005 said:
Congratulations!!!
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Thanks! I am wondering how long we will stay in the "in line" status, though... Summer is coming to the end (in mid August new semester starts). No vacation this year again... I was planning to go to my home country for two or three weeks to visit my dad. Looks like no luck. I have not had any vacations since winter 2007/2008, when I spent three weeks in my home city...
 
Marusia_GC said:
Thanks! I am wondering how long we will stay in the "in line" status, though... Summer is coming to the end (in mid August new semester starts). No vacation this year again... I was planning to go to my home country for two or three weeks to visit my dad. Looks like no luck. I have not had any vacations since winter 2007/2008, when I spent three weeks in my home city...
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For me it took about 8 days to get scheduled. I am not sure about. For some they get scheduled in 2-3 days. You might be scheduled this week :)

Good luck
 
madgu-gc2005 said:
For me it took about 8 days to get scheduled. I am not sure about. For some they get scheduled in 2-3 days. You might be scheduled this week :)

Good luck
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Thanks, Madgu! For me 8 days are Wed. (June 20), but who knows when they will actually schedule the Oath... Obviously, I am not scheduled for June 22 in St. Louis. The next oath in St. Louis is on July 27. But this is not 100% that we will get into it. I heard that there are also oaths in some other cities in Missouri - in Jefferson City, in Kansas City... I do not know whether they would schedule our oaths to be held in one of these other cities, and I have no idea about schedules of oaths in those cities.
If I knew when, then I could at least plan for a travel. But right now I am attached to my place of residence and work, and cannot make even a small trip within the US, since it might overlap with the oath. Anyway, I am waiting patiently and with hope... Very tired of waiting and permanent stress coming really from all the sides.
 
Traveling in the US with GCs?

My son and I decided to take a few days off around 4th of July and travel a little bit ( within the US). My son insists that we must take our GCs with us on travel. I prefer to leave them at home - not to lose by a chance. My son argues that if we are pulled over somewhere and do not have our green cards with us, we could be in a big trouble, even go to jail for not having our immigration documents with us. So far, I was taking my GC with me only on some business trips to companies or labs where proof of my PR was needed, otherwise I was not even thinking of traveling with a GC in my purse. Could we really be in a trouble if we go on vacation without our GCs??? I thought of postponing vacation until after the oath, but there is no news about oath scheduling, time flies, I am getting exhausted, and if I do not have even a few days of rest, I do not know how I will be able to work further. New semester is coming very fast... Not sure if oath happens before mid August...
 
Not to scare you but, yes, you need to carry your GC at all times. Make a copy and leave the copy in a safe place at home.

What The Law Says

Section 264 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states, "Every alien in the United States . . . shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations . . ." It also says, "Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him . . .. Any alien who fails to comply with [these provisions] shall be guilty of a misdemeanor..."

Taken from:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD
 
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rjackal said:
Not to scare you but, yes, you need to carry your GC at all times. Make a copy and leave the copy in a safe place at home.

What The Law Says

Section 264 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states, "Every alien in the United States . . . shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations . . ." It also says, "Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him . . .. Any alien who fails to comply with [these provisions] shall be guilty of a misdemeanor..."

Taken from:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD
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Thanks you very much! So my son is right... I heard of this, but did not think this was so serious! I do not want us to get into trouble at "the very last minute" before getting our naturalization...
 
That being said, I do leave my GC at home sometimes, like if I'm going to the beach or a sporting event. I've been pulled over for traffic tickets a few times and no one has ever asked for my GC. But, I think you will enjoy your vacation more if the GC is with you and you can be assured of its safety! If you left it at home you'd probably worry about what might happen to it at home. :D
Have fun on your trip!
 
Though we've discussed this to death on this forum, and I think the opinion of most here is that it really is unlikely for you to be asked for your GC during everyday life in most parts of this country except for near the northern and southern border, if you travel, you should consider taking your GC. This is what I did, though only if I traveled for a long time, or went to border areas. The likelihood of you being detained for not having your GC in most places even if you are asked for it is very low. Loss of your GC is more troublesome and expensive.

Remember that you also have the right to refuse to show identification, such as in border areas, especially in the north (like on Amtrak trains if you are not crossing the border). If you have done nothing wrong, you have no obligation to answer when they ask you about your immigration status. Of course, this takes nerves of steel.
 
INA 264 is a Federal Statute so may only be enforced by a duly authorized Law Enforcement Officer. That means DHS Officers and any local officers who have been re-delgated that authority from DHS. This also includes other feds like the DEA, FBI, CIA, Secret Service (who are also DHS), etc...

Sheriff Andy Taylor and his deputies Barney Fife and Goober in Mayberry would NOT be authorized unless under an agreement with ICE. Most such folks refuse to participate.
 
BigJoe5 said:
INA 264 is a Federal Statute so may only be enforced by a duly authorized Law Enforcement Officer. That means DHS Officers and any local officers who have been re-delgated that authority from DHS. This also includes other feds like the DEA, FBI, CIA, Secret Service (who are also DHS), etc...

Sheriff Andy Taylor and his deputies Barney Fife and Goober in Mayberry would NOT be authorized unless under an agreement with ICE. Most such folks refuse to participate.
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Thanks, everyone! So we will think "to take or not to take". The 18-year-old teenage future citizen is becoming far more cautious than his mom! Before he was 18, he traveled with me and did not care about taking GCs with us - now he strictly follows the law! No, we are not going close to any border.
 
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