You CAN keep both US and Canadian PR.

awaaz

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Hi Folks,

I hope following information will be helpful. I moved to Canada about 2 and a half years ago as a permanent resident from US while my US green card application was pending. My I-485 application, finally, got approved and I received my green card about 2 months ago.

Based on the information available on this form and elsewhere on the web, I was under the impression that you cannot be a permanent resident of both US and Canada. This information is incorrect as confirmed by both Canadian and US lawyers I contacted. Since getting my green card, I have crossed US-Canada border 4 times without any problems.

When entering US from Canada, I am asked following questions

Q. Where do you work?
A. <I give city,state of my company>

Q. How long where you out of the country?
A. < few weeks usually >

Q. Where do you live?
A. <I give my Canadian address>. US immigration officers don't like this response :)

Q. When are you moving to US? or Why are you living in Canada?
A. I got my green card recently and I am in the process to moving back to US.

Q. How long will it take you?
A. I give him a list of things I need to do before I can move back always emphasizing the fact that my *intention* is to move back (which BTW is true). I usually tell him that it will take me about a year.

Q. What is your status in Canada
A. Landed immigrant.

Q. When entering Canada, did you inform Canadian immigration officer that you are holding a Green Card?
A. Yes

and then immigration officer will let me in.

When entering Canada I am usually asked following question:

Q. Purpose of you trip
A. Work

Q. How long
A. days/weeks

Q. [sometimes] What is your status in US
A. green card (they don't like to hear that)

Q. You can't be a permanent resident of Canada and US
A. I will be living in Canada for another year or so before moving to US.

This is what I was told by Canadian and US lawyers

The only requirement to keep your permanent resident status in Canada is 2 yours of physical presence in any 5 year period. Your intention to move to another country has no bearing on your PR status in Canada

US permanent residency requires that you should never leave US with the attention to establish permanent residency in another country (even for a day). So, as long as you have this intent and can provide sufficient evidence to support your intention, your green card status is not in jeopardy. Also, bear in mind that onus is on the government to prove that you intended otherwise.

BTW, I am planning to keep dual PR status only for a year until I can wrap up from Canada (and also apply for Canadian citizenship) and move to US.
 
You were asked those questions at US Port Of Entry, since you are moving to US after 2 and 1/2 yrs. For GC holders, who are already living in US, and returning from Canada trip, based on what i read in forums they might not ask those questions at US Port Of Entry.
 
You may be right, although, I visit US every few weeks.

The point I was trying to make was that you can keep both US and Canadian GC for some period of time (in years) if you are living in Canada. I don't think it will work the other way around.
 
You may be right, although, I visit US every few weeks.

The point I was trying to make was that you can keep both US and Canadian GC for some period of time (in years) if you are living in Canada. I don't think it will work the other way around.


I guess its been 3 yrs now since i got Canada PR and never stayed there. I just recently got US GC. So, i'm not sure if my Canada PR status was abondoned.
 
The point I was trying to make was that you can keep both US and Canadian GC for some period of time (in years) if you are living in Canada. I don't think it will work the other way around.

But you HAVEN'T kept your GC for "years", your I-485 was only approved a few weeks ago. Keep it up for a few more months and let us know how well that works out for you.
 
But you HAVEN'T kept your GC for "years", your I-485 was only approved a few weeks ago. Keep it up for a few more months and let us know how well that works out for you.

As mentioned in my previous post I have been vocal about my intent to stay in Canada for at least a year in my conversations with the US immigration officer. This hasn't cause me much grief so far. But, you are right, time will tell.

AFAIK, US immigration officers do not have the authority to refuse admission if one has already established Permanent Residency in the US AND was not out of the country for more than 6 months. They can start removal proceedings against you by declaring that PR status was abandoned, which they will have to prove in the court of law. My understanding is that as long as you have a valid reason to stay out of the country US immigration will not go through the hassle of taking this action against you.
 
"CAN keep both GC and Canadian PR" is not the right way to put it; it's more like "you can get away with it for a while" if you know what to say and what not to say at the port of entry and they don't catch on to your game and call your bluff.
 
"CAN keep both GC and Canadian PR" is not the right way to put it; it's more like "you can get away with it for a while" if you know what to say and what not to say at the port of entry and they don't catch on to your game and call your bluff.

You make it sound like an illegal activity :)
I am not lying or hiding any information from both Canadian and US immigration authorities. The way I look at it you legally CAN keep both PRs for some period of time.
 
The way I look at it you legally CAN keep both PRs for some period of time.

"some period of time" being the operative term. At some point CBP may decide that you have been visiting the US enough, and claim abandonment of permanent residency. The only question is when.
 
The way I look at it, "country of permanent residence" can only apply to one country at any given instance. Whether one can get away with it by declaring, not declaring, hiding, skirting around, etc is irrelevant in my opinion. This is even independent of which two countries we are talking about.
 
How did you manage to get the GC without working for your sponsoring employer, dude? I need advice, 'cos I'm planning to do that this fall.I filed I-485 but have to enter Canada till end of November.I'm planning to live in Canada and enter USA for a month not to loose GC when I get one, so far 6 years of waitng!
 
"some period of time" being the operative term. At some point CBP may decide that you have been visiting the US enough, and claim abandonment of permanent residency. The only question is when.

That is not exactly true. CBP doesn't care how often I am visiting US as long as I continue to fulfill my residency requirements in Canada (2 out of any 5 years.

I am not denying that you can't hold PR of both countries forever, as mentioned in my previous comments. I am presenting a legitimate case where you can keep both PRs for 'some period of time' which my be in years not months.
 
The way I look at it, "country of permanent residence" can only apply to one country at any given instance. Whether one can get away with it by declaring, not declaring, hiding, skirting around, etc is irrelevant in my opinion. This is even independent of which two countries we are talking about.

I may sound like a broken record but it is important to recognize that for 'some period of time' you can legally (no getting away scenario here) be a permanent resident of two countries (US and Canada). So your statement above is not correct. And, it is important because folks out there in similar situation may be able to use this provision.
 
How did you manage to get the GC without working for your sponsoring employer, dude? I need advice, 'cos I'm planning to do that this fall.I filed I-485 but have to enter Canada till end of November.I'm planning to live in Canada and enter USA for a month not to loose GC when I get one, so far 6 years of waitng!

I was working for my sponsoring employer.
 
PR USA/Canada ?

I got Green Card (USA) last month. And I have also PR (Canada) around 2005. I am not interested to move Canada.

Anyone knows, How to surrender Canada PR? Or just it will automatically cancel if I do not move in 3 years limit?

Is it any issue, if I visit Canada in future? Can I use my GC to enter Canada?
 
I got Green Card (USA) last month. And I have also PR (Canada) around 2005. I am not interested to move Canada.

Anyone knows, How to surrender Canada PR? Or just it will automatically cancel if I do not move in 3 years limit?

Is it any issue, if I visit Canada in future? Can I use my GC to enter Canada?

This is already discussed in earlier posts. Check this out for more details.

http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=253031
 
I got Green Card (USA) last month. And I have also PR (Canada) around 2005. I am not interested to move Canada.

Anyone knows, How to surrender Canada PR? Or just it will automatically cancel if I do not move in 3 years limit?
----------------- www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/world/embassies/korea/permanent-en.asp


Is it any issue, if I visit Canada in future?
-------------------------------------------Show US GC when enter Canada and show US GC when enter US
Can I use my GC to enter Canada?

CANADA Loss of Permanent Resident Status under IRPA
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/world/embassies/korea/permanent-en.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/manuals-guides/english/enf/enf23e.pdf
 
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