Techy...techy2468 said:gc_aug_05 ....let me surprise you by this comment of mine...
there will be nobody more happy than me if india progresses as per your faith......all my family and friends are in india.....and if india does well.....that gives me a solid backup that i wont have to put up with this dont-care-for-aliens usa system...
but unlike you i dont have much hope....and hence i am not counting on it much.....but i wish that your faith turns out true....
gc_aug_05 said:I received this presentation from an email group. I was amazed reading several of the facts, nonetheless it does make you proud to be an Indian.
The question is not jumping on Techy. I was actually more concerned about the place for debate. This exactly the kind of situation I was trying to avoid. Other country men trying to understand what india is and what indians feelings are towards their home country. In my opinion, Techy was also less diplomatic at times fuming a huge debate.eddie_d said:hey guys,
I have read this thread and I find it interesting how on the one hand many of you seem desperate to stay in the US yet at the slightest criticism of your home country you go apesh*t on poor Techy. I never get this mentality from immigrants. Kinda like getting a divorce, remarrying and then constantly telling your second wife how much better wife #1 was.
I'm Canadian and have lived in the US for the past 8 years, pretty much my entire post-college working life. Will I always have some deep seated feelings for Canada? Sure and if Canada plays the US in a sprting event I will most likely cheer for Canada. But at the same time I also recognize that the country has a lot of faults and is by no means perfect, anything from it AND the US is a better country overall. It is highly hyporcritical to pledge undying loyalty to country A and then turn right around and leave for country B.
Can't have it both ways folks.
eddie_d said:hey guys,
I have read this thread and I find it interesting how on the one hand many of you seem desperate to stay in the US yet at the slightest criticism of your home country you go apesh*t on poor Techy. I never get this mentality from immigrants. Kinda like getting a divorce, remarrying and then constantly telling your second wife how much better wife #1 was.
I'm Canadian and have lived in the US for the past 8 years, pretty much my entire post-college working life. Will I always have some deep seated feelings for Canada? Sure and if Canada plays the US in a sprting event I will most likely cheer for Canada. But at the same time I also recognize that the country has a lot of faults and is by no means perfect, anything from it AND the US is a better country overall. It is highly hyporcritical to pledge undying loyalty to country A and then turn right around and leave for country B.
Can't have it both ways folks.
unitednations said:My fellow Canuck, I have refrained from posting here as it is a highly charged topic.
I couldn't agree with you more. When I first moved to USA back in early '90's, I had undying loyalty to Canada; health care was better; people were more friendly; no ghettos; little poverty; education system was better, etc. My thinking and protection of Canada was very similar to what people are posting towards their motherland here. I would get into debates with my fellow colleagues. As I lived here, matured; became more worldly; travelled throughout usa and around the world; everything became blurred. Every country has tall buildings, nice restaurants, pretty girls; ugly girls, rich/poor.
I am not an economic migrant. I can live anywhere; have permanent residency or citizenship in 5 countries and working on sixth.
I would prefer USA to any place. I would never debate with anyone about USA versus another country.
By the way I haven't heard "apesh*t" in a long time. Must be Canadian saying.
gctome said:People emigrate from their countries for various reasons. - Better standard of living and oppurtunity are one of them. There may be others - But that doesn't give you any license to make ugly remarks about people and the country itself from where you belong. Most of the remarks made by techny are absurd. I think hes really either coming from one of those slums or he should get reality check about the country itself. OR perhaps may be its not worth - I don't think theres any indianess in him FOA.
BTW, what did you mean by loyalty? . IF by loyalty, you mean Italians emigrated to US shouldnot have celebrated the world cup victory by opening champgne bottles on street and blocking the complete traffic, then I am sorry, your statement carries no sense.
India is not Pakistan and it has made significant progress since independence. We are just as proud as any other emigrated community in this country. This is not proving loyalty or turning our back. There are thousands of NRIs helping grow india.
eddie_d said:Pakistan? World Cup? What in the world are you talking about? You like India? Great. You think it is a modern country? Fantastic!! But my point is that by you being here (US) you are obviously voting with your feet, the US is a better country in which to live. If that weren't the case, this message board would not exist.
prank said:This is not a place for venting one's frusturation or comparing nations. .
eddie_d said:I was doing neither. I was showing the hypocrisy displayed here.
eddie_d said:hey guys,
I have read this thread and I find it interesting how on the one hand many of you seem desperate to stay in the US yet at the slightest criticism of your home country you go apesh*t on poor Techy. I never get this mentality from immigrants. Kinda like getting a divorce, remarrying and then constantly telling your second wife how much better wife #1 was.
I'm Canadian and have lived in the US for the past 8 years, pretty much my entire post-college working life. Will I always have some deep seated feelings for Canada? Sure and if Canada plays the US in a sprting event I will most likely cheer for Canada. But at the same time I also recognize that the country has a lot of faults and is by no means perfect, anything from it AND the US is a better country overall. It is highly hyporcritical to pledge undying loyalty to country A and then turn right around and leave for country B.
Can't have it both ways folks.
unitednations said:My fellow Canuck, I have refrained from posting here as it is a highly charged topic.
I couldn't agree with you more. When I first moved to USA back in early '90's, I had undying loyalty to Canada; health care was better; people were more friendly; no ghettos; little poverty; education system was better, etc. My thinking and protection of Canada was very similar to what people are posting towards their motherland here. I would get into debates with my fellow colleagues. As I lived here, matured; became more worldly; travelled throughout usa and around the world; everything became blurred. Every country has tall buildings, nice restaurants, pretty girls; ugly girls, rich/poor.
I am not an economic migrant. I can live anywhere; have permanent residency or citizenship in 5 countries and working on sixth.
I would prefer USA to any place. I would never debate with anyone about USA versus another country.
By the way I haven't heard "apesh*t" in a long time. Must be Canadian saying.
michael_holding said:eddie you need to read other post, maybe you are on a path to citizenship, but most of here posting are not. quite frankly USA does not owe us apes**t and we don't owe apesh** either. its a business, this country allows immigrants cause businesses here want them. am i thankful for that? sure i am thankful for that to america.
but am i expected to kiss ass because america let me in, hell no.
so we have not pledged anything to america, all of us still "ALIENS" here anyways. when my ass get thrown out by USA, guess where will i end up in the same old country of my birth. if anything, actually these Indian citizens have a pledge for their homeland, the day when these guys who rip India, get another country's passport, they can rip India for all i care.
Again you have your reasons for staying here, i have my own. I am not sure what you mean by Hypocrisy? are you saying people should not saying about america because they are here, in that case what do you say about people who get their education and spend 25 yrs of their life in country A and come here and start ripping country A, when infact they are still citizens of country A? wouldn't that be hypocrisy (for lack of a better description) in your book or not?
eddie_d said:I don't even know where to begin.
1. You completely misundertood my post. It has nothing to do with you
owing America and most certainly not anything to do with you owing
apes**t. Read it again - slowly this time - and maybe you'll understand
what I am saying.
2. Look up the word hypocrisy in the dictionary, you obvisously don't know its
meaning.
3. Take a deep breath and relax. Getting all up in arms over this will not make
your situation any better.