When does Judicial commitee proposal becomes bill?

iameddie2005 said:
BTW, another 2 or 3 weeks of intense effort is still required according to Attorney Oh who hosts http://www.immigration-law.com

Here is what he said "Because of the differences between the two bills, S. 1932 is expected to the Conference Committee after the Congress returns to the session the second week in December 2005. This means that the businesses, academic community, and immigrant community should focus on the House-Senate conference committee to resolve differences between the S. 1932 as passed by the Senate and the S.1932 as amended by the House. H.R. 4241 which was passed that night is merged into S. 1932 and out of the picture hereon. The Senators and the House members have returned to your community for the next two weeks and it is a golden opportunity for the supports of the original S. 1932 to contact their Congressional delegations in their community during this holiday season. The House Speaker and the GOP majority whips in the Senate and House will play an important role in the conference process."

Again, if you would like help out and/or not sure how this affects you and what you can to help. Please go to http://www.immigration-law.com and look under heading "11/18/2005: House Passed H.R. 4241 by Vote 217-215 at 01:41 a.m. Today" and click on the "Read and help the immigration community's last minute effort"
If you haven't signed up already, you can also sign up for the following forum. If you have already signed up for it, please spread the words.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/techworkers1
 
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Great Article for us to FAX from Wall Street Journal !!

Folks : Look at this article
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB113...in_commentaries

It speaks about all our problems clearly in Wall Street Journal, written by no less than a Nobel laureate of international fame. We need to fax this to all the senators, they get to see with unbiased mind. Also, the article distinguishes H1, Gc and current system failure for permanent immigration to US.
 
follow the latest on S.1932ES Section 8001/8002

Please follow the latest on S.1932ES Section 8001/8002

http://www.immigration-law.com/

Breaking News - Advanced Q&A

12/06/2005: House and Senate are Miles Apart in Immigration Legislation

* Report indicates that the House leaders are getting more and more against immigration reform, while the Senate is leaning toward the passage of comprehensive immigration reform legislation early next year. The House is moving against immigration reforms and may not do anything other than enforcement and security such that the comprehensive immigration reform legislation is growingly igniting political heat where the President and the Senate are losing the steam to aggressively push forward the immigration reform.
* Reportedly, the House may introduce as early as day after tomorrow an immigration bill totally focusing on enforcement and security which they intend to pass before they go into the year-end recess. The White House and the Senate leaders hope to deal with such hawkish House next year through the conference process, but the chances for McCain-Kennedy bill appear to be waning. Read on.

12/06/2005: Conference Committee for Budget Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, S. 1932 as Amended

* The House returns to the session today and the Senate will return to the session next Monday, December 12, 2005. We do not know which members of the House and the Senate will be asked to represent each house in the Conference Committee, but considering the fact that each house tends to pick from the committee in charge the members to represent in the conference committee, people may want to contact and be familialized themselves with the members of these committees:
o House Budget Committee (that passed H.R. 4241, the House version of the legislation)
o Senate Judiciary Committee (that passed S. 1932, the Senate version of th legislation)
* We will post the names of the members as soon as each house asks the names to the conference committee. By now, people must have learned that the Comprehensive Immigration Reform legislation will turn into one of the hottest political battlefields in 2006 which may not be resolved for months and months to come. The "legal" immigration package in the S. 1932 is the legislation which will have to be resolved within this month as separate from the Comprehensive Immigration Reform legislation next year. People are reminded that when it comes to legal immigration, all segments of the political arena, including the White House, the Senate, the House, the media, and the public, agree to the needs for increase in legal employment-based immigrants and only anti-immigration forces are mobilizing strategies to quite down the immigration supporters with the argument that the immigration packet in S. 1932 should be handled as part of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform legislation just to delay and kill the debate on the issue in December. The business community and higher learning institutions should continue to contact the members of the Congress to educate them that S. 1932 immigration recapture legislation is a totally separate issue from the comprehensive immigration reform issues and the nation needs this legislation and cannot afford any delay in the legislation.
 
WHIP NOTICE for next week

http://majoritywhip.house.gov/whipnotice.asp

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2005 AND THE BALANCE OF THE WEEK
On Wednesday and Thursday, the House will meet at 10:00 a.m. for legislative business.
On Friday, the House will meet at 9:00 a.m. for legislative business.

Suspensions (6 bills):

1) S. 335 - A bill to reauthorize the Congressional Award Act (Sponsored by Sen. Lieberman / Education and the Workforce Committee)

2) H.R. 4473 - To reauthorize and amend the Commodity Exchange Act to promote legal certainty, enhance competition, and reduce systemic risk in markets for futures and over-the-counter derivatives, and for other purposes (Sponsored by Rep. Goodlatte / Agriculture Committee)

3) H.Res. 409 - Condemning the Government of Zimbabwe's "Operation Murambatsvina" under which homes, businesses, religious structures, and other buildings and facilities were demolished in an effort characterized by the Government of Zimbabwe as an operation to "restore order" to the country (Sponsored by Rep. Lantos / International Relations Committee)

4) H.Con.Res. 294 - Calling on the international community to condemn the Laogai, the system of forced labor prison camps in the People's Republic of China, as a tool for suppression maintained by the Chinese Government (Sponsored by Rep. Wolf / International Relations Committee)

5) H.Con.Res. 238 - Honoring the victims of the Cambodian genocide that took place from April 1975 to January 1979 (Sponsored by Rep. Millender-McDonald / International Relations Committee)

6) H.Res. 529 - Recommending the integration of the Republic of Croatia into the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (Sponsored by Rep. Gallegly / International Relations Committee)

Conference Report on H.R. 3199 - USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Act of 2005 (Subject to a Rule) (Sponsored by Rep. Sensenbrenner / Judiciary Committee)

H.R. 4437 - Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005 (Subject to a Rule) (Sponsored by Rep. Sensenbrenner / Judiciary Committee)

Possible Motions to go to Conference

Possible Motions to Instruct Conferees

Members are advised that Conference Reports may be brought up at any time

Members are advised that the House is now scheduled to be in session on Friday and that a weekend session is possible this week
 
The final committee members are going to be from the probable list

Please note that the final committee members are going to be from the probable list. These are not yet final. The final list will be disclosed on Tuesday and we will update the isnamerica.org list accordingly

drirshad said:
Individual Web fax is now set to send fax to selected committe members for the S 1932 bill section 8001

http://www.isnamerica.org
 
Please fax (urgent): Congressmen/senators working over the weekend

Congressmen/senators working over the weekend

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guys,

Let us not relax this weekend. Please send as many faxes as possible to all the senators/congressmen through isnamerica.org webfax option.

These last few days are critical. Please urge your friends & relatives. If they authorize you, you can send the faxes on their behalf with their details.

Lets put all our efforts, these final days.

Sincerely,
Wellwisher
 
Please contact senators/congressmen directly or/and thru corporations/churchleaders

The story in washington post tells us that there are other important issues, other than immigration that are being discussed at the congress currently. The issue of immigration will be debated as a very brief 'yes' or 'no' affair. I do not think the conference committee members will have a lot of time at their disposal to debate in detail over the immigration provisions.

So, it becomes all the more important for us to contact congressmen/senators directly and/or through corporations/church-leaders

Please fax, call over the weekend.. Meet churchleaders.. Urge your respective corporation on Monday to contact the congressmen/senators. The contact phone/fax #s is available in the files section of the 'techworkers1' yahoogroups.

pdakwala said:
There are several sources. Few things I have heard on the cspan and few things I found it on the Internet. I have some recording and would like to post here but this web site does not allow .wav file. So check following link.

http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/AIuaQ0...zEOYE/Roy Blunt on Deficit Reduction Bill.wav

From now on I will post the link on this web site also. Things that I have heard on the cspan won't be available in full though .

Also check this site for latest news. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5/12/09/AR2005120901787.html?nav=rss_politics
You will have to read between the lines by the way. Also if you call your Senator's office or House of Representatives office they some times will be able to give you some good information.
 
House Happenings for This Week

URGENT

Denny Hastert have said that in the House things that will be happenings for the last week will surprise many people.

"We’re going to finish our efforts to reduce the deficit soon. I know I talked to you before about the Deficit Reduction Act that we passed. The American people deserve to have a more efficient and effective government. This legislation makes the reforms so they have that. We’ve passed our version in the House. The Senate has theirs. So now we’re working out a compromise and I hope we can get that to the floor soon."
Source: http://speaker.house.gov/journal/05...klyupdate.shtml

I am again telling everyone not to wait till the members of the conference committee are known. Please start sending letters to the key members who have played major role in Deficit reduction bill from day one. This week is very important.
 
check here

http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/3211/1/86?TopicID=1



In addition to ANWR, lawmakers and Hill staff have been haggling over proposed cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and foods stamps. Reports indicate that negotiators are moving toward dropping the House's nearly $700 million in food stamp cuts as well as language reauthorizing the nation's welfare programs, but details on cuts to Medicare and Medicaid are still unavailable. While the House proposed no cuts to Medicare and over $11 billion in cuts to Medicaid, the Senate bill proposed $5 billion in cuts to Medicare and $4.3 billion in cuts to Medicaid. Unlike the House version, the Senate bill spared beneficiaries from feeling the impact of the cuts by aiming them solely at administrative changes. It is still unclear how these differences will be reconciled.
 
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm939.cfm

Ready for Reconciliation: The Top Five Items No Fiscal Conservative Could Possibly Support
by Andrew M. Grossman
December 14, 2005

With Congress back in town, rumors are flying about the budget reconciliation conference. This year, unlike most others, reconciliation isn’t just an inside-the-Beltway phenomenon; with all the recent attention being paid to long-term spending issues, millions of Americans are watching to see whether Congress has finally gotten serious about the federal budget. Right now, it’s hard to tell. The House and the Senate passed very different bills, with many competing provisions.



One thing, however, is certain: The worse the bill that comes out of conference, the more smoke and mirrors its proponents will employ to confuse the public about its contents. Final language could move from conference to votes in just hours, leaving almost no one, not even Members of Congress, to understand what’s on the table. Some of the issues in play are horribly complex, but others should be obvious to anyone who wants to get federal spending under control—even to lawmakers.



The Top Five Items No Fiscal Conservative Could Possibly Support


Digital Television Converter-Box Subsidies: “Feeling, evidently, flush with (other people’s) cash, the Senate has concocted a novel way to spend $3 billion: create a new entitlement,” wrote columnist George Will last week. The new entitlement has nothing to do with health, retirement, poverty, disability, or anything like that; it’s an entitlement to watch television. Sometime in 2009, television networks will stop broadcasting analog signals and switch entirely to digital. For most of the millions of Americans with analog sets, this switchover will mean “absolutely nothing”—85 percent of households have cable or satellite service and won’t even notice. Still, the Senate would spend $3 billion to subsidize converter boxes for whoever wants them; the House would spend only $1 billion. A true fiscal conservative would let consumers spend the $50 per converter box themselves.

Farm Subsidies and MILC: Over the next five years, the government is scheduled to spend $102 billion on farm subsidies that drive up prices for U.S. shoppers, burden taxpayers, and put poor farmers in developing countries at a disadvantage in trade. The Senate has generously offered to shave $3 billion off of this total…in exchange for extending the subsidy programs for another four years after their scheduled expiration in 2007. Only the Senate could call a new $60 billion commitment paired with a $3 billion nip “savings.” Adding insult to injury, the Senate would also reinstitute the now-defunct Milk Income Loss Contract (MILC) program, which makes direct payments to farmers, based on the amount of the milk they produce, whenever the price falls below a specified level. According to the Department of Agriculture, MILC so perfectly counteracts existing dairy subsidies as to effectively cancel them out. Really, the only lasting effect would be the cost to taxpayers: about $1 billion.

Higher-Education Grant Extensions: Bravo to the House and Senate for putting forward proposals to trim federal outlays for higher education. The Senate bill, however, would actually expand several higher-education grant programs—most notably, the Provisional Grant Assistance (ProGAP) program. The Senate has no good justification for this additional $8 billion in spending through 2010. Given the state of the budget, that’s just not acceptable.

Medicare Smoke and Mirrors: Right around when the Washington Post’s Robert Samuelson complained that very few in Congress are “serious about curbing federal spending and budget deficits,” the Congressional Budget Office released a report detailing how the Senate hopes to wring savings from the Medicare program. The Senate’s plan would save $2.5 billion in 2006. Where does the money come from? According to CBO, the plan “would postpone payments for Medicare Part A and B benefits for six business days at the end of the fiscal year 2006.” In other words, the Senate plan would actually boost 2006 Medicare spending by $2.5 billion and then try to hide that increase by not paying doctors until the next fiscal year. This isn’t savings; it’s a sham.

Pay for Performance: This sounds like something that embraces free-market principles. However, Pay for Performance—sometimes called “values-based purchasing”—is just code for wrapping Medicare-participating doctors in even more red tape. The Senate’s proposal here would dock physicians who don’t report “quality-related data” to the government and redistribute that money to physicians who do. Little evidence supports the effectiveness of this kind approach. What is clear is that Pay for Performance would effectively establish government guidelines for the practice of medicine and tie Medicare payment to physician compliance with those guidelines. This would be a radical break from the Medicare policy that prohibits federal officials from interfering in the practice of medicine. It is true that Medicare wants for market-based approaches, and it is encouraging that the Senate is at least paying lip-service to that. But Pay for Performance (or whatever the lawmakers want to call it in the end) would only strengthen the bureaucrats’ hand—the exact opposite of relying on the market.
The Top Five Items No Fiscal Conservative Could Do Without


Oil Exportation in ANWR: Coming off a year marked by volatile energy prices and disruptions in energy supplies, the need for more energy sources is more apparent than ever. Allowing oil exploration in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge would eventually put another source online and at the ready should disaster disrupt supplies again. Moreover, exploration would net the government $2.5 billion in oil-leasing revenues, as well as subsequent royalty payments from oil companies—billions more, all told. Opening ANWR is a win-win policy no matter how you look at it.

Modest Cuts in Food Stamps: The way things stand now, you can’t qualify for food stamps if your income is above a certain level—unless, that is, you receive certain other government benefits, such as job training. Fixing this quirk in the law, combined with requiring immigrants to wait an extra two years before they can become eligible for food stamps, would save $0.6 billion through 2010. Despite the fact that these are very minor changes, the House leadership has been excoriated for pursuing them. Whether these cuts remain in the final bill will be a test of Congress’s backbone; if not, there’s little hope that Congress will have the will and strength to address the looming entitlement crisis.

Ending the Byrd Amendment: The Byrd Amendment takes tariffs on imports that allegedly have been “dumped” in the United States and transfers them to the foreign firms’ competitors. It’s bad enough that these tariffs raise prices for U.S. consumers, but the Byrd Amendment gives U.S. firms the incentive to run to the government for protection rather than duke it out in the marketplace. Even worse, the WTO has ruled that the Byrd Amendment violates U.S. trade obligations and has awarded a number of countries the right to impose retaliatory duties on U.S. goods. For these reasons alone, ending the Byrd Amendment, as the House reconciliation would do, is a no-brainer; that it would save the government an estimated $3.2 billion is just icing on the cake.

Medicaid Flexibility: State governments are sinking under the weight of Medicaid bills. Under current law, states’ Medicaid programs, funded in part by the federal government, are hamstrung by unnecessary mandates that drive up costs and block innovation. A set of proposals in the House would give the states flexibility to serve Medicaid enrollees better. New flexibility in benefit packages and cost-sharing will allow states to differentiate between the truly indigent and those with some financial means. States could offer enrollees new options for service delivery—such as using private insurers—and experiment with new financing techniques. In the process, the federal government would save an estimated $6.5 billion through 2010.

Postponing the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit: Despite a strong proposal from Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and his colleagues on the Senate’s “Fiscal Watch Team,” neither the House nor the Senate stepped up to the plate to address the new Medicare drug entitlement. The new entitlement, the first to be created in decades, will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, and Congress has no idea right now how it will pay the bill. A fiscally responsible budget reconciliation bill would delay the Medicare drug entitlement for two years so that Congress could go back to the drawing board and design a rational and responsible Medicare drug benefit. In the meantime, Congress could make the existing Medicare drug discount card more generous for low-income seniors, targeting aid on the truly needy. A two-year delay would save between $40 billion and $80 billion.
These Things Are Clear

Breathless thousand-word stories in the Post and the Times, seemingly impenetrable jargon (like the daunting phrase “budget reconciliation”), and bizarre procedural rules in the House and Senate lead many Americans to believe that their representatives’ work is beyond comprehension in its complexity. While some issues at play in this budget reconciliation are complex, many of the big ones are not. By looking at just a few items, fiscal conservatives should be able to tell almost instantly what kind of bill has come out of conference and whether Congress is finally getting serious about federal spending.



Andrew M. Grossman is Senior Writer at The Heritage Foundation.
 
The best way is to do lobbying as IsnAmerica.Org planned to come out of retrogression

The best way is to do lobbying as IsnAmerica.Org planned to come out of retrogression

Initially IsnAmerica.Org was having lobbying plans and even did some effort to have channel established with RickScwartz who did immigration lobbying earlier in getting few fruits like working on with H1 receipt(need not wait for H1 approval) and Switchng after 6 months of 485...
This happened back in 2000, why can not we do same as a organization..

Cmon guys let us get together... only talking does not help..
Some needful activity like Lobbying, Meeting corporations shd happen without which we will not come out of this loop...

Please see important posts posted at IsnAmerica.Org talks about their lobbying group and other activities/groups at the below links:

Corporation/Business/Church/legisltaion lobbying/lobbyists can only help us now..
http://www.nripost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=230

Uncertainty of the Fate of Immigration Packet in Senate Instructions to S. 1932 Conferees
http://www.nripost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319

They are asking for support,help,feedback and most importantly much partcipation in the different groups they had..

Just my thoughts...
 
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Since Arlen Spector was the one who brought this bill back on track after Senator Byrd introduce his amendment. We should get in touch with him again and in fact immediately. His contact information is as follows:

Arlen Specter (R-PA)
Phone: 202-224-4254
Fax: 12022281229
Email: http://specter.senate.gov/index.cfm...ontactInfo.Home

Let's do following things tomorrow.

1. Flood his office with the phone calls and request him to make sure that section 8001 and 8002 of s1932 is included in the final version of the bill.
2. If we have someone from PA (Arlen's state), have him or her to get in touch with his office asap and raise our concern.

Everyone, Game is still not over. We can bring things back on track. Just effort is needed.
 
House received Senate message on conferees

MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE -- (House of Representatives - December 15, 2005)


--- A message from the Senate Ms. CURTIS, one of its clerks, announced that the Senate disagrees to the amendment of the House to the bill (S . 1932 ) ``An Act to provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 202(a) of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2006 (H. Con. Res. 95).'' and requests a conference with the House on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses thereon, and

That on December 15, 2005, appoints Mr. GREGG, Mr. DOMENICI, Mr. GRASSLEY, Mr. ENZI, Mr. ALLARD, Mr. SESSIONS, Mr. STEVENS, Mr. SHELBY, Mr. SPECTER, Mr. CHAMBLISS, Mr. MCCONNELL, Mr. CONRAD, Mrs. MURRAY, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. SARBANES, Mr. INOUYE, Mr. BINGAMAN, Mr. BAUCUS, Mr. KENNEDY, and Mr. LEAHY, to be the conferees on the part of the Senate.

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Committee will resume its sitting.
 
House appointed conferees for consideration S1932

6:44 P.M. -
The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on Ways and Means for consideration of secs. 6039, 6071, and subtitle B of title VI of the Senate bill and title VIII of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Thomas, Herger, and Rangel.
The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure for consideration of title V and Division A of the Senate bill and title VII of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Young (AK), LoBiondo, and Oberstar.

The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate Preparation for and Response to Hurri for consideration of title IV of the Senate bill and title VI of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Pombo, Gibbons, and Rahall.

The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on the Judiciary for consideration of title VIII of the Senate bill and title V of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Sensenbrenner, Smith (TX), and Conyers.


The Speaker appointed conferees Provided that Mr. Ney is appointed in lieu of Mr. Bachus for consideration of subtitles C and D of title II of the Senate bill and subtitle B of title IV of the House amendment.

The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on Financial Services for consideration of title II of the Senate bill and title IV of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Oxley, Bachus, and Frank (MA).

The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on Energy and Commerce for consideration of title III and title VI of the Senate bill and title III of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Upton, Deal (GA), and Dingell.

The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on Education and the Workforce for consideration of title VII of the Senate bill and title II and subtitle C of title III of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Boehner, McKeon, and Miller, George.

The Speaker appointed conferees - from the Committee on Agriculture for consideration of title I of the Senate bill and title I of the House amendment, and modifications committed to conference: Goodlatte, Lucas, and Peterson (MN).

The Speaker appointed conferees for consideration of the Senate bill, and the House amendment thereto, and modifications committed to conference: Nussle, Ryun (KS), Crenshaw, Putnam, Wicker, Hulshof, Ryan (WI), Blunt, DeLay, Spratt, Moore (KS), Neal (MA), DeLauro, Edwards, and Ford.


S. 1932:
to provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 202(a) of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2006 ( H. Con. Res. 95)

Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
On motion that the House instruct conferees Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll No. 652).
 
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