What happen if apply 4 citizenship before time?

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Marcos

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I got my GC through asylum. My GC date is Aug. 2005, but I am an asylee since 2001.

I have to wait until 2010 to apply for citizenship. I got my asylum more than 5 years now. Asylees are considered permanent residents. So, I want to apply for citizenship now.

What will happen if my application is denied? Will I have problems to apply later in 2010?

Please I do not need your opinions about my decision to apply now. I need to know about consequences if my application is denied for applying before time.

Thanks a lot for your attention and help,
Marcos.
 
Marcos,
Asylees who get PR status are given some sort of credit I know. Can't remember the exact details. Either the approval date is backdated to the day the AOS was submitted, or it is backdated by a year. I am not too sure. The date on your GC in front of the "Resident since:" is the key. Take that date, add 5 years to it and subtract 90 days.

The penalty if you apply early is loss of money only.
 
Marcos said:
I got my GC through asylum. My GC date is Aug. 2005, but I am an asylee since 2001.

I have to wait until 2010 to apply for citizenship. I got my asylum more than 5 years now. Asylees are considered permanent residents. So, I want to apply for citizenship now.

What will happen if my application is denied? Will I have problems to apply later in 2010?

Please I do not need your opinions about my decision to apply now. I need to know about consequences if my application is denied for applying before time.

Thanks a lot for your attention and help,
Marcos.
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Marcos,
I am a GC holder as a result of my asylum status as well. Yes, the only penalty is loss of money. You are not eligible to apply until May of 2010. That is why your application will be denied but you can reapply in 2010. I HAVE heard that someone applied 4 years and 5 months after being a PR and his application was accepted but I believe it may have been in an error.
 
Thanks Triple Citizen and vdostoi1,

Yes, our (asylees) GCs are backdated one year from the day of approval, I got approved Aug. 2006.

ARE YOU BOTH SURE THE ONLY PENALTY WILL BE THE LOSS OF MONEY?

Thanks again for replying, Marcos.
 
If you send in your Application to the Service Center they might just send it right back to you if they look at it which they will and return your check also. Not 100% sure on that but if it get's passed on then you are out of the money, if they look at it closely they return application with everything else.
 
Yes, only a monetary penalty. However I am curious, why are you attempting this? Your N-400 will not get approved, since there is no element of hope if the application is premature. So why are you throwing away a decent amount of money?

Marcos said:
ARE YOU BOTH SURE THE ONLY PENALTY WILL BE THE LOSS OF MONEY?
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Triple Citizen said:
Yes, only a monetary penalty. However I am curious, why are you attempting this? Your N-400 will not get approved, since there is no element of hope if the application is premature. So why are you throwing away a decent amount of money?
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I agree they won't accidently approve it, they will automatically deny it. So it's a complete waste of your money when it will be denied. In a time people are getting denied by submitting exactly on the 90th day before their 3 or 5 year PR date, you definatly won't be getting accepted any sooner...
 
Yep, they will not "accidentally approve" things. Not gonna happen.
Pretty strict about things like eligibility.
 
Most likely if you make a gross error in eligibility date, the service center will simply return your application without cashing the check. However, there is a chance the problem won't be spotted until interview, so at that point you would definitely loose your application fee.

As others have said, you stand 0% chance of being approved early. Go with the "resident since" date on your GC and add 5yrs less 90 days.
 
Marcos said:
Thanks Triple Citizen and vdostoi1,

Yes, our (asylees) GCs are backdated one year from the day of approval, I got approved Aug. 2006.

ARE YOU BOTH SURE THE ONLY PENALTY WILL BE THE LOSS OF MONEY?

Thanks again for replying, Marcos.
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Yes.
 
Well you have a mighty attitude problem:) I would suggest the odds at winning a jackpot are higher than getting away by fooling USCIS. The new higher filing fee will give you decent odds at some winnings.


Marcos said:
I got my GC through asylum. My GC date is Aug. 2005, but I am an asylee since 2001.

......Please I do not need your opinions about my decision to apply now. I need to know about consequences if my application is denied for applying before time.

Thanks a lot for your attention and help,
Marcos.
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I also got my GC thru Asylum Feb 2005, so I assume I can apply for my C'ship Nov 2009? My question is, I lost my original Birth Certificate but I have a copy of the photocopied one. Is it going to affect my application or the photocopied Birth Certificate is going to be sufficient for the Citizenship process? Please advise. Thanks in advance.
 
Birth certificate is usually not needed for N-400 (naturalization application). Your calculation seems fine, just be aware that you should count at most 90 days before your five year anniversary. Some people advise (to be on the safe side) to count 85 days instead of 90.
 
Asy said:
I also got my GC thru Asylum Feb 2005, so I assume I can apply for my C'ship Nov 2009? My question is, I lost my original Birth Certificate but I have a copy of the photocopied one. Is it going to affect my application or the photocopied Birth Certificate is going to be sufficient for the Citizenship process? Please advise. Thanks in advance.
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Yeah, you should not need your birth certificate at the time of naturalization. Did you get your GC in Feb of 2005 or is it backdated one year to Feb. 2005? This will depend on when you can apply. Lots of helpful information in the Political Asylum forum. I suggest you look there for info.
 
The resident date on my GC says 2/28/05, so I assume I can apply for the Naturalization process around 11/28/09, right?
I am so glad that the Birth Cert is not needed for the process :)
 
Asy,

With all due respect. I think you're "hijacking" this thread. To answer your question I would suggest you apply on or after December 5th 2009 to be on the safe side (that's 85 days before your 5 year anniversary). The date you put on your post of 11/28/09 correspond to 92 days. The limit is 90 days and I would suggest you don't push the limit to be on the safe side. 92 days would (almost guaranteed) lead to the application being rejected and a chance to lose your money.

My 2 cents.
 
i believe this computation is wrong, if you apply on 2/28/09 that will be exactly four years, now 90 days prior to the due date will be on 11/28/08. On 11/09 that will be 9 months later, remember that applications are treated as first come first served, a wasted 9 months would have made you a citizen it takes between 6 to 8 months for the procedure.
 
guys, can you help me to understand a little bid better this 90 days rule..
we can apply 90 day before certain period of time( 3 years or 5). does it mean that the signature on our application and the DATE on the n400 form should be no more than 90 days before 5 years period or priority date should be no more than 90 days before this 5 years requirement?
 
anmn said:
guys, can you help me to understand a little bid better this 90 days rule..
we can apply 90 day before certain period of time( 3 years or 5). does it mean that the signature on our application and the DATE on the n400 form should be no more than 90 days before 5 years period or priority date should be no more than 90 days before this 5 years requirement?
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Your application must certainly not arrive at USCIS before the 90 day mark, and you'd be well advised to make sure your signature date is inside this window too. Most people recommend leaving it a few extra days just to be on the safe side, since USCIS can and does return applications for being a day or two early.
 
I have a question,if anyone knows exactly,please help.
i'm a residence since nov 4,when i count 90 days backward do i have to count the fouth on nov, or the third will be the 1st day?

thank you
 
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