wantmgcnow can help most of us, here is how:

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ianyu

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dear wantmygcnow:
since you personally spoke to a CIS officer and received those interesting answers about travelling back to COP and renewing the COP passport you could put this dialogue you had or a summary of it, in writing. you should make memo type of document with your real name and A# and sign it.Then you should take it to your bank and have it notarized for free. then you should scan this and post on this forum as a protected(not editable) .pdf file. this way we could all use it when we travel as a sort of support paper when dealing with officers and POEs.if you would be able to get the name of the officer and the name of the office where he/she works it would be great., the date too. it would make sense to write it in legal language.
if you decide to do this and would need a lawyer to formulate your experience and witnessing, perhaps you could inquire how much it would cost and we could all support you by paypal.
I imagine this might sound demanding but all you are doing is being our witness, acting fully in a legal manner of free spreech. If I had received the answers you did, in person, I would witness like this in order to help the rest of us.

ianyu
 
ianyu said:
dear wantmygcnow:
since you personally spoke to a CIS officer and received those interesting answers about travelling back to COP and renewing the COP passport you could put this dialogue you had or a summary of it, in writing. you should make memo type of document with your real name and A# and sign it.Then you should take it to your bank and have it notarized for free. then you should scan this and post on this forum as a protected(not editable) .pdf file. this way we could all use it when we travel as a sort of support paper when dealing with officers and POEs.if you would be able to get the name of the officer and the name of the office where he/she works it would be great., the date too. it would make sense to write it in legal language.
if you decide to do this and would need a lawyer to formulate your experience and witnessing, perhaps you could inquire how much it would cost and we could all support you by paypal.
I imagine this might sound demanding but all you are doing is being our witness, acting fully in a legal manner of free spreech. If I had received the answers you did, in person, I would witness like this in order to help the rest of us.

ianyu
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I am hoping you are joking. You want me to be held liable for any immigration problems you face if you go back to your COP?


I was laughing out loud when I read this. Dream on man :)

I think if you read what I wrote, I never asked about going back to COP. I only asked if I could renew my NP since Switzerland Embassy doesn't issue visa on a Rentry Permit and my RTD expires in 2 months..
 
hello

sorry:)
I did not mean for you to take any responsability. it would be merely exercising your free speech rights. You could simply state what you talked about with an immigration officer whose name and office location was so and so. All you would do is say the truth and be a witness. That is acting free. I would not have a problem doing this and from my extensive legal experiences no lawyer would see it as illegal either.
thanks
ianyu
 
ianyu said:
sorry:)
I did not mean for you to take any responsability. it would be merely exercising your free speech rights. You could simply state what you talked about with an immigration officer whose name and office location was so and so. All you would do is say the truth and be a witness. That is acting free. I would not have a problem doing this and from my extensive legal experiences no lawyer would see it as illegal either.
thanks
ianyu
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That document would be valid if the IO officer signed and notarized and not me. I am not a lawmaker.
 
the officer is not a lawmaker either. it matters you to be a witness of something that truly happened. just exercising your legal right would not hurt. it could help many of us.
'no bad intentions here; just an idea about our human and legal rights: to speak and to act within US laws.
ianyu
 
ianyu said:
the officer is not a lawmaker either. it matters you to be a witness of something that truly happened. just exercising your legal right would not hurt. it could help many of us.
'no bad intentions here; just an idea about our human and legal rights: to speak and to act within US laws.
ianyu
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Officer is not a lawmaker but he has the ability to approve/deny an application right?? Maybe you can use your idea and try to make an infopass appointment and do it yourself?
 
wantmygcnow said:
Officer is not a lawmaker but he has the ability to approve/deny an application right?? Maybe you can use your idea and try to make an infopass appointment and do it yourself?
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immigration officer is not lawyer...he can make a mistakes.
instead of holding wantmygcnow responsible ..best to do try with immigration lawyer.
 
hi

i would make an infopass appointment but I am in Australia.
Immigration offiers are likely to be legally responsible for their declarations to CIS customers. What we lack here is an answer for a question which involves a popular immigration issue.If we could ,or one of us, optimally in the presence of a lawyer, have an immigration officer declare his statement - it would hold reason in court of law. It seems that USCIS does not have a regulation in place for our issue (or a few issues). It would not be the first time in the history of US law that this occured. Laws come to power also through the public, in the US. They simply need to be confirmed by the Congress. so:
let us say that wantmgcnow goes with a lawyer to an infopass appointment. He asks an immigration officer (with a name and title recorded) this question: may I, a permanent resident of the US whose immigration status has been adjusted to permanent residency from political asylum,visit the country declared as COP in the filings of my asylum application?

if the officer says yes, the lawyer being a hearing witness then writes a short statement summarizing the legal conclusion and listing the individuals involved.wantmygc goes to a notary public to notarize it and to a public library to file a document copy then posts a copy (.pdf) on this forum.
all of us who for some reason have to go to our COP can at least have this piece of evidence that we did ask USCIS for an answer. If the regulation does exist the USCIS will come out with it eventually. IF it does not they will probably write up a regulation. In any case, a civil action would have been taken within the limits of US law.

asking something like:may I, a permanent resident of the US whose immigration status has been adjusted to permanent residency from political asylum,renew the national passport from the country, declared as COP in the filings of my asylum application? - should also get an answer by a CIS officer:)

Rosa Parks stood up by sitting down. Lets be creative, at least in America it can be done within the laws. Making a little bit of history is cool. I would do it but as I wrote already, I am on vacations in Australia.

ianyu
 
We are patient. Personally, I will wait you come back and go to USCIS and do all you just wrote. And then, place the PDF file here. :p
 
ianyu said:
i would make an infopass appointment but I am in Australia.
Immigration offiers are likely to be legally responsible for their declarations to CIS customers. What we lack here is an answer for a question which involves a popular immigration issue.If we could ,or one of us, optimally in the presence of a lawyer, have an immigration officer declare his statement - it would hold reason in court of law. It seems that USCIS does not have a regulation in place for our issue (or a few issues). It would not be the first time in the history of US law that this occured. Laws come to power also through the public, in the US. They simply need to be confirmed by the Congress. so:
let us say that wantmgcnow goes with a lawyer to an infopass appointment. He asks an immigration officer (with a name and title recorded) this question: may I, a permanent resident of the US whose immigration status has been adjusted to permanent residency from political asylum,visit the country declared as COP in the filings of my asylum application?

if the officer says yes, the lawyer being a hearing witness then writes a short statement summarizing the legal conclusion and listing the individuals involved.wantmygc goes to a notary public to notarize it and to a public library to file a document copy then posts a copy (.pdf) on this forum.
all of us who for some reason have to go to our COP can at least have this piece of evidence that we did ask USCIS for an answer. If the regulation does exist the USCIS will come out with it eventually. IF it does not they will probably write up a regulation. In any case, a civil action would have been taken within the limits of US law.

asking something like:may I, a permanent resident of the US whose immigration status has been adjusted to permanent residency from political asylum,renew the national passport from the country, declared as COP in the filings of my asylum application? - should also get an answer by a CIS officer:)

Rosa Parks stood up by sitting down. Lets be creative, at least in America it can be done within the laws. Making a little bit of history is cool. I would do it but as I wrote already, I am on vacations in Australia.

ianyu
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Rosa Parks also didn't ask someone else to do her dirty work. I never intend to visit my COP, maybe TortFeasor can do this for you since he wrote an excellent piece on visitng COP. Send him a Private Message
 
hey guys! wantmygacnow is already kind enough to monitor this forum for free and sharing his knowledge. Don't try to grab his throat if he has given you a hand.
 
You could hire a private attorney who can contact USCIS management in Washington DC on your behalf for an advisory opinion. Attorneys do this all the time regarding various facets of the INA. They get their answers from managment not information officers.


ianyu said:
dear wantmygcnow:
since you personally spoke to a CIS officer and received those interesting answers about travelling back to COP and renewing the COP passport you could put this dialogue you had or a summary of it, in writing. you should make memo type of document with your real name and A# and sign it.Then you should take it to your bank and have it notarized for free. then you should scan this and post on this forum as a protected(not editable) .pdf file. this way we could all use it when we travel as a sort of support paper when dealing with officers and POEs.if you would be able to get the name of the officer and the name of the office where he/she works it would be great., the date too. it would make sense to write it in legal language.
if you decide to do this and would need a lawyer to formulate your experience and witnessing, perhaps you could inquire how much it would cost and we could all support you by paypal.
I imagine this might sound demanding but all you are doing is being our witness, acting fully in a legal manner of free spreech. If I had received the answers you did, in person, I would witness like this in order to help the rest of us.

ianyu
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wantmygcnow said:
Officer is not a lawmaker but he has the ability to approve/deny an application right?? Maybe you can use your idea and try to make an infopass appointment and do it yourself?
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The frontline officers you see with an INFO Pass most likely do not have power to adjudicate cases. They are called information officers for a reason.
 
Amazing!

Ianyu: With all due respect "mate", what have you been smoking in the Down Under? Thank you very much for such an entertaining piece of work. I am laughing my heart out and you have made a great beginning for my weekend (great weather in DC and the Cherry Blossom parade!)

Your Royal Highness: In response to your suggestion, I have provided my opinion and analysis on the issue on that thread you referenced. (You may make it a "Sticky" if you think others will benefit from it). In the absence of a clear prohibition, it will be absurd and ridiculous to get explanations on an issue that has not been regulated. I will repeat the rule of the game again -"Whatever is not prohibited or regulated by a rule is allowed and permitted." I am not going to ask permission for something that is not prohibited. If the INS thinks to the contrary, I will deal with them in the forum that I have previously dealt with them on numerous occasions (on behalf of myself or pro bono clients) and BEAT them - the U.S. federal judiciary - the ultimate cure to their arbitrariness and capriciousness.

Cheerio
ianyu said:
let us say that wantmgcnow goes with a lawyer to an infopass appointment. He asks an immigration officer (with a name and title recorded) this question: may I, a permanent resident of the US whose immigration status has been adjusted to permanent residency from political asylum,visit the country declared as COP in the filings of my asylum application?

if the officer says yes, the lawyer being a hearing witness then writes a short statement summarizing the legal conclusion and listing the individuals involved.wantmygc goes to a notary public to notarize it and to a public library to file a document copy then posts a copy (.pdf) on this forum.
all of us who for some reason have to go to our COP can at least have this piece of evidence that we did ask USCIS for an answer.

Rosa Parks stood up by sitting down. Lets be creative, at least in America it can be done within the laws. Making a little bit of history is cool. I would do it but as I wrote already, I am on vacations in Australia.

ianyu
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wantmygcnow said:
I am hoping you are joking. You want me to be held liable for any immigration problems you face if you go back to your COP?


I was laughing out loud when I read this. Dream on man :)

I think if you read what I wrote, I never asked about going back to COP. I only asked if I could renew my NP since Switzerland Embassy doesn't issue visa on a Rentry Permit and my RTD expires in 2 months..
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wantmygcnow,

Do you know how can Permanent Residents travel to Switzerland if they received their GC not through asylum and cannot get RTD? It was a surprise for me that Switzerland does not recognize Reentry Permit.
 
Minsk said:
wantmygcnow,

Do you know how can Permanent Residents travel to Switzerland if they received their GC not through asylum and cannot get RTD? It was a surprise for me that Switzerland does not recognize Reentry Permit.
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If you have a green card and a valid National passport, you don't need a visa.

I either have to use a RTD or renew my National passport. I am not in favor of renewing my NP since I won't be able to get a RTD then unless I lie on my I-130..

So i am skipping Switzerland.
 
wantmygcnow said:
If you have a green card and a valid National passport, you don't need a visa.

I either have to use a RTD or renew my National passport. I am not in favor of renewing my NP since I won't be able to get a RTD then unless I lie on my I-130..

So i am skipping Switzerland.
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I am sorry. I know that this topic was discussed before, but I want to make sure. So is it OK for asylee to use his or her NP if it's valid? Can it cause any problems when applying for citizenship?
 
Minsk said:
I am sorry. I know that this topic was discussed before, but I want to make sure. So is it OK for asylee to use his or her NP if it's valid? Can it cause any problems when applying for citizenship?
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If you are an asylee, meaning you dont have a GREEN CARD IN Hand, I suggest you dont renew your passport.

If you have a GREEN CARD In hand, it is ok to renew your NP but don't hold me against it.

Its your own choice.
 
hi

i liked wantmygcnow ever since i realized how much he gave to this forum. my idea was with no bad intentions. it was a surprise to see wantmygchere react in such deffensive,somewhat brute manner, with no need:)i just thought he had a chance to get an answer for a question all of us have. i'll do it when i get a chance to have an infopass app. If I get a meaningful answer from an immigration officer I will post it here with my real name,A#, notarized....it is legal and can be of help.
i recommend visiting australia; people are more humane around here.
 
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