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Visa refused and CEAC data changed to Refuse of main applicant but not the other participants.

AldoBlack said:
First, thank you for all condolences. I forgot to mention in my first comment to THANK @Sloner , @vladek , @Britsimon , @Sm1smom , @SusieQQQ and all people who have helped me for one 1 year. And thank you Mr. @Rajiv S. Khanna for this forum. If it wasn't for this forum I do not know where I would have gotten all information I nedded. I have to apologize I did not mention ths in first post, but I was, and still am very shocked and sad. Thank You guys for helping me and answering all my question.





@Sloner , SusieQQQ
Professional High Schools is 5 years in Albania. Which means my father has done 13 years of schools in his life. In professional high schools is like a small university which trains you to be a mechanic, erector etc, and yes. With his diploma he can enroll to higher education institution, ehich in this case will be university. (And if my father would have chosen to continue university he we have chosen Mechanical Engineer). I didn't continue university becase at that time dictatorship chose limited people to continue university and my father was not one of the lucky ones. (He couls have continued university after dictatorship felt but he wouldn't need because he had real profession.) . It is strange to me because I have so many relatives in who has won DV Lottery. For example my aunt, she won the lottery (she was the main participant), she has only Hogh School diploma and she hadn't worked once in her life because her husband is a good saleman and they were making money so she wouldn;t need a job and she took the visa.
One month ago, my friend took his visa with his family and. His father was the main participant and has only high schools, and he i just an amateur photographer. He hasn't done any photography school. He just opened his business and goes to wedding. Takes photos and that's all.
The strange thing is that all my relativis, they only have hoght schools and have not job experience and have received visa while my father was refused, and why they kept us waiting for 2 hours when they knew they were going to refuse our visa.



@dveu14 ,
I will explain the process. In 8:00 AM we went to the embassy. We waited a little bit and my father's name was called to submit the remaining documents. He submited the remaining documents and paid the fee, only $330, for one, while the others were paying not only their fees, but also other fees for other participant. (At that moment my father began to suspect but he didn't say anything). We waited for 30 minutes and again my family's name was called. This time al my family had to go inside the sectors, they just did a finger print scans (the CO asked my father iF I was waiting in the lobby and they said yes.). Then they returned and after waiting for 1 hour, my father's name was called again. Only he went inside to the CO and he gave the refusal letter. So they knew that our visa was to be refused, but they just kept us waiting for 2 hours and I do not know why they did this.
And, No they didn't attend the interview with the CO. They only asked them one question when they were doing finger scans "Is Aldo in the looby?", and they answered "Yes, he is with us."




@Sm1smom ,
I was a liitle sceptic about interview today. Because we had last name issues. Mistakes made by other people, but I never could have imagined that visa was going to refuse because of my father;s education and job experience.


@veronice ,
Thank you. I've had a great time here and I'm very thankful to all people in this forum.
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That's really sad!
 
@Aldo
Please promise me that you are gonna play the DV and never miss it ?!
You will get I just got this feeling.
Best of luck to you man
 
cecilia said:
I graduated from high school in Kenya. However I failed in 2 core subjects. Will that count against me? I am currently in US, and hold a bachelor's degree from a well known University.
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I think since you have a bachelor diploma will back up your 2 weak subjects ;)
 
cecilia said:
I graduated from high school in Kenya. However I failed in 2 core subjects. Will that count against me? I am currently in US, and hold a bachelor's degree from a well known University.
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I was under the impression you were doing AOS, because if you, are subject grades are mute factors AOS. With CP, I think it might be a factor in some embassy, but then the fact that you already have a BA will most likely be a mitigating factor.
 
vladek said:
@Aldo
Please promise me that you are gonna play the DV and never miss it ?!
You will get I just got this feeling.
Best of luck to you man
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I promise @vladek I will try my luck in upcoming DV Lottery. However I wanted my family to go there. I didn't care much about myself. They are the only ones who makes me smile and happy. Bu I will try.

And one other thing. My dad just called me, he talked to the layer who helped us process the documents and he said that there is a new law (it was released like 2 month ago) that forbidden workers with professional high school diploma. I do not know why they had to release this for DV2014 winners. They should have done this for DV2015 winners.
 
Sm1smom said:
I was under the impression you were doing AOS, because if you, are subject grades are mute factors AOS. With CP, I think it might be a factor in some embassy, but then the fact that you already have a BA will most likely be a mitigating factor.
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I was going to do AOS - but I was recommended to go for CP. AOS might be risky for me. So, now I've filed for CP.

Thank you for your help!
 
Professional High Schools is 5 years in Albania. Which means my father has done 13 years of schools in his life. In professional high schools is like a small university which trains you to be a mechanic, erector etc, and yes. With his diploma he can enroll to higher education institution, ehich in this case will be university.

If so, it is a mistake of the consulate. Call in the embassy and explain the situation. Tell them why it was denied, with this document if I can go to university.
 
AldoBlack said:
I promise @vladek I will try my luck in upcoming DV Lottery. However I wanted my family to go there. I didn't care much about myself. They are the only ones who makes me smile and happy. Bu I will try.

And one other thing. My dad just called me, he talked to the layer who helped us process the documents and he said that there is a new law (it was released like 2 month ago) that forbidden workers with professional high school diploma. I do not know why they had to release this for DV2014 winners. They should have done this for DV2015 winners.
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The first time I hear.
 
AldoBlack said:
I promise @vladek I will try my luck in upcoming DV Lottery. However I wanted my family to go there. I didn't care much about myself. They are the only ones who makes me smile and happy. Bu I will try.

And one other thing. My dad just called me, he talked to the layer who helped us process the documents and he said that there is a new law (it was released like 2 month ago) that forbidden workers with professional high school diploma. I do not know why they had to release this for DV2014 winners. They should have done this for DV2015 winners.
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It sounds like they classed his professional high school as a vocational school - and the instructions about that have not changed at all. Vocational schooling does not count toward the 12 years.
 
Sloner said:
Professional High Schools is 5 years in Albania. Which means my father has done 13 years of schools in his life. In professional high schools is like a small university which trains you to be a mechanic, erector etc, and yes. With his diploma he can enroll to higher education institution, ehich in this case will be university.

If so, it is a mistake of the consulate. Call in the embassy and explain the situation. Tell them why it was denied, with this document if I can go to university.
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The thing is, by the explanation of Aldo, it sounds like a vocational school - training for something that is largely manual labour /artisanal, and that would usually not be acceptable. It does sound strange to me that you could train to be a mechanic and then go on to mechanical engineering (which would usually require math and physics for example) but I don't know this school system obviously.
 
AldoBlack said:
And one other thing. My dad just called me, he talked to the layer who helped us process the documents and he said that there is a new law (it was released like 2 month ago) that forbidden workers with professional high school diploma. I do not know why they had to release this for DV2014 winners. They should have done this for DV2015 winners.
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I can unequivocally tell you right now that lawyer lied to your Dad! Since you stated the lawyer helped you guys process your documents, I'm guessing the service wasn't done for free and he/she touted himself/herself as an experienced and knowleadgble DV lawyer, right? He's basically trying to cover his behind. There's no such newly released law or policy that effect.
 
Sm1smom said:
I can unequivocally tell you right now that lawyer lied to your Dad! Since you stated the lawyer helped you guys process your documents, I'm guessing the service wasn't done for free and he/she touted himself/herself as an experienced and knowleadgble DV lawyer, right? He's basically trying to cover his behind. There's no such newly released law or policy that effect.
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More likely the lawyer never did his homework about the education requirement so agree the CYA approach.
 
Maybe the lawyer was lying. I was searching now for this "New law" and I did not find anything.
This equivalent of high school that my father has done, in Albania it is called "Industrial High School", which is equivalent to High School. This is how it is called in Albania.

@Sloner , I sent them e-mail and they said that they have looked into every detail in my father's case and it was unqualified.

@SusieQQQ , My father didn't just learned to be mechanic. In 5th year of his high school he was preparing for university.
 
Anywhere else something called "industrial high school" would be considered vocational school, no doubt about it. I would expect an Albanian consulate to know better than anywhere else however whether it was considered equivalent to a US high school diploma.
 
Britsimon said:
It sounds like they classed his professional high school as a vocational school - and the instructions about that have not changed at all. Vocational schooling does not count toward the 12 years.
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That's probably the case yes.
Btw why is the english school only 11 years? And why is it not acceptable ? I mean english schooling is one of best
In the world I believe ?
And how do you dogde that matter if you studied in uk and you get selected for dv?
For non british of course?
 
vladek said:
That's probably the case yes.
Btw why is the english school only 11 years? And why is it not acceptable ? I mean english schooling is one of best
In the world I believe ?
And how do you dogde that matter if you studied in uk and you get selected for dv?
For non british of course?
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11 years is GSCE, 13 years is A-levels. You need A-levels for university entrance. 12 years is not enough to get you into university as you do not have A-levels at the end of it.
 
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