USCIS Report 3.27.2009 - Improving Oath Ceremonies

I was upset reading about the ceremony conducted in Spanish at first.
Then I realized it was in Puerto Rico. That makes sense.
 
No reason to be upset. Don't get too caught up in language. Would you approve if they only allowed to naturalize Christians, and the ceremonies were presided by Evangelical pastors? Not having freedom of language is akin to not having freedom of religion in my little book ;) Having people fluent in different languages is wealth for the US.
 
Huracan said:
No reason to be upset. Don't get too caught up in language. Would you approve if they only allowed to naturalize Christians, and the ceremonies were presided by Evangelical pastors? Not having freedom of language is akin to not having freedom of religion in my little book ;) Having people fluent in different languages is wealth for the US.
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Upset because a naturalization ceremony should be held in the country's official language. But when I read it was Puerto Rico I thought it was fine since it's a particular situation and the official language there is indeed Spanish.
Other than that, I agree with you. I speak 4 languages myself and I will be extremely upset if my kids won't be fluent in Russian (my wife's native language) and Italian (mine).
My point is that English is and should always be the only official language of the US Govt.
 
Hmm it doesn't have anything about same day ceremonies? I can't seem to to find info anywere as to why USCIS allows same day ceremonies in some D.Os and not others? At first I thought the size, but looking at this forum, it looks like some of the really big east coast D.Os allow same day oath ceremony.

Anyone know what criteria USCIS uses?
 
Oath ceremonies are not for the USCIS to decide. It is the purview of the courts based on state law. In some states like MN, the courts will not let USCIS administer the oath. The Judges like to have big ceremonies because they are paid on the number of citizens given oath not per ceremony. So the ceremonies are far and few:)


tnwalker said:
Hmm it doesn't have anything about same day ceremonies? I can't seem to to find info anywere as to why USCIS allows same day ceremonies in some D.Os and not others? At first I thought the size, but looking at this forum, it looks like some of the really big east coast D.Os allow same day oath ceremony.

Anyone know what criteria USCIS uses?
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brb2 said:
Oath ceremonies are not for the USCIS to decide. It is the purview of the courts based on state law. In some states like MN, the courts will not let USCIS administer the oath. The Judges like to have big ceremonies because they are paid on the number of citizens given oath not per ceremony. So the ceremonies are far and few:)
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So just curious....who does the Oath ceremony letter come from? USCIS or something local? I am watching out for my oath ceremony letter and want to make sure that I don't miss it just because I was looking for the wrong dispatcher (USCIS instead of maybe local court, etc.)
 
I hope that everybody that is waiting for an oath has read this report, which I think is somehow misleading, at least for New York City, because I have seen as many others in this forum, naturalization ceremonies being taken place on the 7th floor of the Federal Building downtown New York City whereby USCIS offcials swear in the applicants and not Federal Judges.

I don't know who these people think they are when they generalize about what is going on throughout the country and the White House up in DC has no idea what these people at USCIS do arbitrarily, without contemplation and with an enormous lack of respect for most applicants.

Maybe they think they are better than everybody else. Well, let me tell them at least through this forum,that they are mistaken, that they are full of hate inside their hearts and 100% ignorant of the realities of many who come here to the US looking for a better future.

In fact it is many of these same applicants who should be running USCIS and the White House should wake up and smell the coffee because Republicans are still running the show here, and they want to portray President Obama as an inefficient bureaucrat.-
 
rick92 said:
In fact it is many of these same applicants who should be running USCIS and the White House should wake up and smell the coffee because Republicans are still running the show here, and they want to portray President Obama as an inefficient bureaucrat.-
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Come on Rick, you know it's not the case.
As matter of facts President Bush and McCain were in favor of immigration reforms.
The truth is that USCIS is a huge Govt-run agency. And when Govt runs things and gets in your life, we all know it causes huge inefficiencies, whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge.
Govt should run just a handful of things in this country and everybody would live better.
 
sarrebal said:
The truth is that USCIS is a huge Govt-run agency. And when Govt runs things and gets in your life, we all know it causes huge inefficiencies, whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge.
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However, the inefficiency with immigration is orders of magnitude beyond regular government inefficiency. For example, compare the costs of replacing a lost or damaged green card with replacing a lost or damaged US passport. The green card costs more than 10 times as much and takes nearly 10 times as long to replace as a US passport, but both are handled by the Federal government (different divisions, of course).
 
The US has always been and as far as I can remember since childhood a place where things get DONE. It has always been done with pride, good will, and compassion. Now, all of the sudden, we find ourselves with so many problems and after the elections we go back to the 4/6 months processing timeline for all applicants.

And yes, I can hear, there were 2.5 million applicants in 2007, and yes they are going to keep on repeating that forever, and the same goes for the people at the passport agency in the State Dept.- Yes, they never saw it coming, come on, give me a break.

We have got to do better than that. I can feel them saying,, we have a change of presidents, who is gonna fire us now; besides we are public servants, all we got to do is slow down for last half of the presidential year and the next half of the new year, until these guys get a hold of what we are doing. And then we'll blame it on the infrastructure or the equipment, or the economic downturn.

If we want to get ahead, it's better we start FIRING some people responsible and I am not saying, FIRE the dumb ones, FIRE the intelligent ones, that's where the problem is, with the quiet little geniuses behind this whole mess. :cool:

sarrebal said:
Come on Rick, you know it's not the case.
As matter of facts President Bush and McCain were in favor of immigration reforms.
The truth is that USCIS is a huge Govt-run agency. And when Govt runs things and gets in your life, we all know it causes huge inefficiencies, whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge.
Govt should run just a handful of things in this country and everybody would live better.
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