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Trump’s New Executive Proclamation - Travel Suspension 2.0

Foley83 said:
This is interesting as Sydney Consulate is still stating that reissuing expired DV visas is still possible. What are the odds of them saying one thing and doing another?
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Sydney seems to be the only one saying that from what I can figure out. Anyone heard of any others?
 
Britsimon said:
1. There is some confusion in their use of the word extended. So - to clarify. The visa cannot be "extended" but a visa can be re-issued once the old one has expired.
2. On the second point about whether the visa issuance is subject to the ban - their statement is in line with my original assumption, that the visa cannot be re-issued because of the ban. BUT I am aware of at least one case where visas were reissued to a couple after their visa expired. Since KCC would have had to have been involved in the reallocation of the visa for that case - KCC might be able to clarify whether Naples has that right or not. In any case I have asked the AILA team to include that scenario to the list of affected groups in their action - and yes - please add your name to the form. I will be closing the form shortly since we have more than enough responses to be able to get a representative set of plaintiffs.
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Apologies Simon, but I couldn't have enough time to add my case in your form as I was busy in the past days.
Since I've read your form is now closed, please let me know if it's somehow possible or there's another way to push my case like via Curtis.

Where was this couple from? I hope from Europe.
I also asked questions to KCC once, so I forwarded this one just like you advice me. I hope their answer shall not be the same as I received on the past inquiry:
"Thank you for your inquiry.
KCC is not authorized to assist you with this issue. Please contact the American Embassy/Consulate with jurisdiction over your area for further information."
Now I'm considering to transfer my case from Naples to London
 
Britsimon said:
Be careful to not assume the twitter replies are completely accurate. They may or may not be.
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Hi Brit!
A person have received this answer by his consulate. Do you think you can give this As a proof to AILA’s lawsuit To demonstrate as this proclamation is damaging us ?
 

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Hello @Britsimon

Firstly, thank you for all your support and help to us! We appreciate it a lot. I would like to ask a question, I'm sorry if it's asked before and I missed it. When AILA's lawsuit will be in a federal court? I mean is there any approximately date for it? And lastly, you are an experienced person in this cases so according to your experiences and estimates, how long this lawsuit can take to be finalized? We are a bit worried about our limited time, that's why I'm asking. Thank you again for being with us.
 
Soophie said:
Hi Brit!
A person have received this answer by his consulate. Do you think you can give this As a proof to AILA’s lawsuit To demonstrate as this proclamation is damaging us ?
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Interesting. So if you were issued a visa and the fiscal year eneded you can be carried over? Mah.
The superficiality way these answers are given is disturbing.
 
Ercriniera said:
Interesting. So if you were issued a visa and the fiscal year eneded you can be carried over? Mah.
The superficiality way these answers are given is disturbing.
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This is from a person who had his Interview appointment one day before that Netherlands’s embassy closed (firsts days of April). She contacted them to know something and this has been their answers.
I am wondering if everyone of us will ask to our embassies about our future and get this answers or similar answers , where they admitted that our chances are lost because of the ban , can this be considered as a proof that we can send to AILA’s lawsuit or Curtis’s mandamus to show and demonstrate
as this proclamation is damaging us forever?
 
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Soophie said:
This is from a person who had his Interview appointment one day before that Netherlands’s embassy closed (firsts days of April). She contacted them to know something and this has been their answers.
I am wondering if everyone of us will ask to our embassies about our future and get this answers or similar answers , where they admitted that our chances are lost because of the ban , can this be considered as a proof that we can send to AILA’s lawsuit or Curtis’s mandamus to show and demonstrate
as this proclamation is damaging us forever?
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The thing is that embassies now give very controversial and vague answers. It seems they don't have an idea of how to behave in this situation because they don't get direct instructions from above and people keep on making predictions...This all seems to be a part of a horror movie written by an amateur screenwriter!
 
Soophie said:
Hi Brit!
A person have received this answer by his consulate. Do you think you can give this As a proof to AILA’s lawsuit To demonstrate as this proclamation is damaging us ?
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This is just repeating the law, AILA will be aware of this. It’s also very clearly stated in the DV instructions.
 
Mer2020 said:
The thing is that embassies now give very controversial and vague answers. It seems they don't have an idea of how to behave in this situation because they don't get direct instructions from above and people keep on making predictions...This all seems to be a part of a horror movie written by an amateur screenwriter!
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It’s neither controverisal nor vague imo, it is just stating in formal terms that the law says you need a visa by midnight 30 Sept or you lose out. There is nothing the embassy can do about this - it is either authorized to issue visas, or it’s not, and because of the presidential proclamation, right now it’s not.
 
Mer2020 said:
The thing is that embassies now give very controversial and vague answers. It seems they don't have an idea of how to behave in this situation because they don't get direct instructions from above and people keep on making predictions...This all seems to be a part of a horror movie written by an amateur screenwriter!
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Every embassy has a lawyer in it's staff. The answer is given in accordance with the proclamation. There's nothing amateur about it.
 
Soophie said:
Hi Brit!
A person have received this answer by his consulate. Do you think you can give this As a proof to AILA’s lawsuit To demonstrate as this proclamation is damaging us ?
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That statement is precisely accurate in every way. How can we complain about accurate information that is not harmful?
 
Zapparani said:
Hello @Britsimon

Firstly, thank you for all your support and help to us! We appreciate it a lot. I would like to ask a question, I'm sorry if it's asked before and I missed it. When AILA's lawsuit will be in a federal court? I mean is there any approximately date for it? And lastly, you are an experienced person in this cases so according to your experiences and estimates, how long this lawsuit can take to be finalized? We are a bit worried about our limited time, that's why I'm asking. Thank you again for being with us.
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http://britsimonsays.com/incredible-response-to-the-call-for-plaintiffs-thank-you/
 
Soophie said:
This is from a person who had his Interview appointment one day before that Netherlands’s embassy closed (firsts days of April). She contacted them to know something and this has been their answers.
I am wondering if everyone of us will ask to our embassies about our future and get this answers or similar answers , where they admitted that our chances are lost because of the ban , can this be considered as a proof that we can send to AILA’s lawsuit or Curtis’s mandamus to show and demonstrate
as this proclamation is damaging us forever?
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Mer2020 said:
The thing is that embassies now give very controversial and vague answers. It seems they don't have an idea of how to behave in this situation because they don't get direct instructions from above and people keep on making predictions...This all seems to be a part of a horror movie written by an amateur screenwriter!
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Guys, please, I realize that English is not the first language of everyone but as before you are winding each other up with misunderstandings of what is being said. These misunderstandings seem to spread within the community, and even if we correct the rumors here, the damage is already done in other groups, whatsapp groups, FB groups and so on.
 
I was wondering if this EO will be stopped somehow, can the President still keep the embassies closed to enforce hia immigration ban? Because in that case there's nothing to do
 
SusieQQQ said:
It’s neither controverisal nor vague imo, it is just stating in formal terms that the law says you need a visa by midnight 30 Sept or you lose out. There is nothing the embassy can do about this - it is either authorized to issue visas, or it’s not, and because of the presidential proclamation, right now it’s not.
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Dear @SusieQQQ and what if it's not my fault I don't get a visa by midnight 30 Sept? As a winner of DV2020, I did everything, all documentation within the required deadlines and payments of course. Now they declare everything is just over...
 
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