TN Visa - System Analysts

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mailboy99

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Hello,
I was wondering if I need a lawyer for my issue.
I was recently approached by an organization that saw my resume online.
They offered me a job and asked me to go to the border for TN stamp.
Though I have been a Oracle Database Analyst/Administrator in the past, they offered me a System Analyst position.
The first time I went to the border, the officer said "welcome to US", but you have to come back about 1 week before the start of your job. That way you are technically "en-route" to the job.
So after 2 weeks, I went back this time I was officially denied with reason that the offer letter was vague and not detailed. He was also adamant that I have been system administrator for a while and why do I need to go back to analyst. I explained that one has to be an analyst to convert logical requirements to physical requirements.
Long story short, he denied me the visa AND entry. He also took my fingerprints and picture.
He escorted me back to Canadian border with form saying the "Refused admission to U.S".
Since then, I have been reading the internet and discovering one horror story after the other.
It looks to me now that I cannot even go for cross-border visit etc.
Please help me what step to take next.
 
As I stated on CanuckAbroad, fix the letter and try again at the same POE. If you have a degrree, there is no need to present resume, so thwere would be no question about you takinga "demotion", or trying to trick the border into thinking you will do one job but really do another.
 
nelsona said:
As I stated on CanuckAbroad, fix the letter and try again at the same POE. If you have a degrree, there is no need to present resume, so thwere would be no question about you takinga "demotion", or trying to trick the border into thinking you will do one job but really do another.
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Thank you very much nelsona.

However, I specifically asked the officer if I can apply again and he said yes. But he warned me that there is a risk of banned from entering U.S. for up to 5 years for false statement if I make changes that contradicts earlier statements. He kind of spooked me the officer did. As it is now, I cannot go for family vacation or even casual games across the border now without extensive questioning even refusal because of the first refusal of entry.

I have actually decided to stop any activity with U.S. for now. I have a plan to do my masters degree in early 2013. I am planning to apply to schools in the fall. Maybe that route will be successful because they liked it when you actually spend money - tuition in the country.

Also, if one is successful with F1 visa, how easy it is to apply for work permit after the F1 visa in order to work while going to school? any information will be highly appreciated.

Thanks
 
Don't be spooked (although it appears you are giving up). This happens all the time. All you need is to fix your letter and try again. You have not lied, you simply have had a poor TN package.

You need to get past this. Otherwise it looks like you are hiding in canada. If you are worried about entry as a toursit (you should not be) then you should be just as worried about f1 or any other status.

Get your TN and move on.
 
I am not hiding in Canada.
I am a Canadian citizen.
After discussing with my potential employer, we have decided to not pursue this again.
Not until I feel comfortable doing it.
Thanks for your input.
 
I am not hiding in Canada...
After discussing with my potential employer, we have decided to not pursue this again.
Not until I feel comfortable doing it.
I still call that hiding.... under a blanket, even if it is your blanket.
Your loss. Employer will find someone else.
 
I agree it's not comfortable

mailboy99 said:
I am not hiding in Canada.
I am a Canadian citizen.
After discussing with my potential employer, we have decided to not pursue this again.
Not until I feel comfortable doing it.
Thanks for your input.
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I agree, I have felt the same way several times. I have been treated like a criminal many times by the USCIS and CBP folks and have felt like giving up entirely forever on entering the US. They yell at you, fingerprint you, photograph you, ask personal questions that feel like a total invasion of privacy and then deny you for random stuff, type a bunch of notes about you into the computer and escort you out, making the whole experience traumatic. Here you are, a professional with an education, good job offer and a respectable citizen of Canada and yet because you are requesting a TN Permit for a US job they have the right to treat you however they wish and you can't complain or you end up being punished even more. It's really quite rediculous. I feel for you. It all sounds easy on paper but it's not.

I have been on several TNs and a couple H1Bs and of course the B1s and B2s. I'm half here, half there. Wish we could all just be free to work where and how we prefer. I love what I do, and I am very good at it however I was born here and not there, so it's a struggle.
 
Never let the fact, where you were born, hold you back. Place of birth is not in an individual's control, as simple as that, so why fret over it? I was not born in either of these two great countries. Yet I educated myself, learnt professional skills that were/are in demand. Then I learnt, respected and adhered to the immigration rules/regulations in both countries and in less than 10 years, 1997-2006, immigrated, worked and naturalised in both. Do not call it a "struggle". That is a defeatist attitude.

Merzerie said:
I love what I do, and I am very good at it however I was born here and not there, so it's a struggle.
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TN through Mail

how long does it take to get your TN through mail?
What is the process?
I already have a few and wondering if it will be easier to get it through mail rather then taking a trip to the border

Thanks
 
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