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Hi All, we've entered US on dv immigrant visas, but received only 2 green cards by mail, instead of 3. My spouse received I797C form instead asking to come for biometrics, but we are currently out of US for several months (around 5 months we've planned to be out to finish things at home), is it a big problem? Spouse is primary applicant. We've asked to reschedule, just not sure why another biometrics and why GC wasn't received...
 
Hi All, we've entered US on dv immigrant visas, but received only 2 green cards by mail, instead of 3. My spouse received I797C form instead asking to come for biometrics, but we are currently out of US for several months (around 5 months we've planned to be out to finish things at home), is it a big problem? Spouse is primary applicant. We've asked to reschedule, just not sure why another biometrics and why GC wasn't received...
It means the previously captured bio (from the embassy interview) for the main selectee is not good enough to produce their GC. The GC will therefore not be produced until after the new bio appointment has been completed.
 
It means the previously captured bio (from the embassy interview) for the main selectee is not good enough to produce their GC. The GC will therefore not be produced until after the new bio appointment has been completed.
Thanks @Sm1smos, is it something to worry about and try to change the plans to return to US earlier or is this something that could wait until our return to US, couple of months till April next year, what do you think?
I've asked about providing overseas, but operator didn't know if it is possible
 
Thanks @Sm1smos, is it something to worry about and try to change the plans to return to US earlier or is this something that could wait until our return to US, couple of months till April next year, what do you think?
I've asked about providing overseas, but operator didn't know if it is possible
You can’t do it overseas if it’s a uscis request, and your reschedule request is not going to put the date beyond the 6 months that you want to stay out for. Does the notice say what happens if you don’t show up for the bio? (My concern is it would be abandoned and you’d have to file i90 when you return which is not only money but incredibly long processing time.) If it just delays the process without abandoning it I guess you could take the chance and wait.
 
Yes, it is 5.5-6 months from now.
Here is what is says, I hope you can see, it says that Application/Petition/Request will be denied/abandoned.

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But I hope it relates only to printing of GC not to loosing of LPR status?
On top it says this
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Thanks @Sm1smos, is it something to worry about and try to change the plans to return to US earlier or is this something that could wait until our return to US, couple of months till April next year, what do you think?
I've asked about providing overseas, but operator didn't know if it is possible
The bio cannot be completed abroad, it must be done in the US. My suggestion is to come ASAP and get the bio taken care of. You don’t want to run into complications of getting the GC produced later on which may involve filing and I-90 and having to pay whatever the applicable filing fee is at that point in time.
 
Yes, it is 5.5-6 months from now.
Here is what is says, I hope you can see, it says that Application/Petition/Request will be denied/abandoned.

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But I hope it relates only to printing of GC not to loosing of LPR status?
On top it says this
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No, you won’t lose LPR status. But just so you understand the implications of having it abandoned - that will mean you’ll have to file an i90 for a replacement green card (not that you’ve even lost one yet but that complication aside…). It will cost $540. Then you will wait 16 months or more to get the physical card. No, that is not a typo. And you can’t file before you return because…you’ll need to do bio for i90 too when called. I agree with mom, your wife should just make a plan to come back and do the bio when you get the rescheduled date. Or does she really want to go two years or more from now before she gets a physical green card?

as a little benefit bump to coming back to do the bio, your wife may end up limiting her absences to less than 6 months by doing so, which will speed up when she can apply for citizenship, if that is something you want to do down the line.
 
Or does she really want to go two years or more from now before she gets a physical green card?

as a little benefit bump to coming back to do the bio, your wife may end up limiting her absences to less than 6 months by doing so, which will speed up when she can apply for citizenship, if that is something you want to do down the line.
We have to think about it and travel back as fast as week can. But since we didn't plan to be away more than 6 months, I thought that if we postpone bio for 5-6 months our residency start date won't change (we started to be residents from September) and so hoping to apply to citizenship 5 years from that date
 
We have to think about it and travel back as fast as week can. But since we didn't plan to be away more than 6 months, I thought that if we postpone bio for 5-6 months our residency start date won't change (we started to be residents from September) and so hoping to apply to citizenship 5 years from that date
You can’t postpone bio 5-6 months. You don’t get to choose the rescheduling date.
 
You can’t postpone bio 5-6 months. You don’t get to choose the rescheduling date.
Well I called them and they made a note that I asked to reschedule for 5 months ahead, but still haven't received any confirmation mail. I wonder if there can be any trouble when entering US without GC with only a visa - I think it should be valid for 1 year from date of 1st entry, but still not sure
 
Well I called them and they made a note that I asked to reschedule for 5 months ahead, but still haven't received any confirmation mail. I wonder if there can be any trouble when entering US without GC with only a visa - I think it should be valid for 1 year from date of 1st entry, but still not sure
Like Susie already informed you, you can’t postpone the bio for a specific timeframe regardless of what you told them when you called or their response back to you on the phone. Did they give you a copy of the “note” acknowledging their awareness of your 5 months reschedule request? Take whatever you were told on the phone with a pinch of salt. The 5 months extension request will not be taken into consideration when the bio gets scheduled. In general, rescheduling is done based on their timeframe and spot availability, not at the convenience of the applicant.
 
Like Susie already informed you, you can’t postpone the bio for a specific timeframe regardless of what you told them when you called or their response back to you on the phone. Did they give you a copy of the “note” acknowledging their awareness of your 5 months reschedule request? Take whatever you were told on the phone with a pinch of salt. The 5 months extension request will not be taken into consideration when the bio gets scheduled. In general, rescheduling is done based on their timeframe and spot availability, not at the convenience of the applicant.
Thanks, but I still don't understand. I've paid 330 USD for printing of this GC - I just checked by entering request number and it says "fee is paid, if you don't receive GC contact us". Something went wrong on USCIS side, I am not in the country, why can't USCIS schedule when and where convenient maybe even in consulate overseas? I don't even understand why I have to pay 540 USD more for replacement card, but of course this all is little inconveniences when compared to a chance that because of this error we will get denied entry to US.
They promised that I will be able to track my request by entering request number, but I see nothing like their notes in my account still, maybe it is still processing, not sure
 
Well I called them and they made a note that I asked to reschedule for 5 months ahead, but still haven't received any confirmation mail. I wonder if there can be any trouble when entering US without GC with only a visa - I think it should be valid for 1 year from date of 1st entry, but still not sure
You won’t get a confirmation email, you’ll just get a new bio notice. I’d be very pleasantly surprised if it is for 5 months’ time, but if it is you’ll probably only receive it in 3-4 months.

Thanks, but I still don't understand. I've paid 330 USD for printing of this GC - I just checked by entering request number and it says "fee is paid, if you don't receive GC contact us". Something went wrong on USCIS side, I am not in the country, why can't USCIS schedule when and where convenient maybe even in consulate overseas? I don't even understand why I have to pay 540 USD more for replacement card, but of course this all is little inconveniences when compared to a chance that because of this error we will get denied entry to US.
They promised that I will be able to track my request by entering request number, but I see nothing like their notes in my account still, maybe it is still processing, not sure
Because they do something like a million bio appointments a year and the logistics of planning to be convenient for every person just aren’t there.
You can’t do it overseas because it’s USCIS, not DOS.
And please remember the basic assumption of a green card is that you are resident in the US. They don’t go running around trying to make back up plans in a hundred or more consulates because the idea behind a green card is that yoi should be in the US most of the time.

Btw green card fee is $220 not $330.

Stop panicking about being denied entry and read the bottom of your visa properly.
 
Thanks, but I still don't understand. I've paid 330 USD for printing of this GC - I just checked by entering request number and it says "fee is paid, if you don't receive GC contact us". Something went wrong on USCIS side, I am not in the country, why can't USCIS schedule when and where convenient maybe even in consulate overseas? I don't even understand why I have to pay 540 USD more for replacement card, but of course this all is little inconveniences when compared to a chance that because of this error we will get denied entry to US.
They promised that I will be able to track my request by entering request number, but I see nothing like their notes in my account still, maybe it is still processing, not sure
No, USCIS cannot schedule the appointment at a time or place you consider convenient for your situation because as a LPR, the assumption and expectation is that you are residing in the USC, and not that you will return to your home country shortly after your arrival for a prolonged period. The bio appointment is being scheduled at a convenient location based on your listed US address, the location cannot be more convenient than that.

And no, something did not go wrong on USCIS’s side. The bio captured at your interview turns out to be unusable for the GC production and you are being given a chance to resubmit the required bio capture in order for the GC to get produced. USCIS is not denying the fact that you’ve made the required payment (which is $220 by the way, and not $330), they’re basically telling you what you need to do in order for the GC to get produced.

USCIS has not requested you make a new payment in order for the GC to get produced, and no one here as said you will be denied re-admission back to the US because of the error. You are basically confusing issues and misinterpreting the information you’ve been provided with (re implications of what could happen if you do not resolve the bio issues ASAP) because of your reluctance to return to the US ahead of your scheduled plan. May I suggest to re-read previously provided responses to ensure you’re not mixing things up.
 
Thanks for your replies, it helps a lot. The fee is 220$ you are right, my mistake. On the visa it says upon endorsement acts as proof of PR for 1 year. I hope this means that airline should board us on a flight without one GC even though visa is expired but one year has not yet passed. There is a procedure to report a lost/stolen card for airline, but doesn't look like it applies to our case
 
Thanks for your replies, it helps a lot. The fee is 220$ you are right, my mistake. On the visa it says upon endorsement acts as proof of PR for 1 year. I hope this means that airline should board us on a flight without one GC even though visa is expired but one year has not yet passed. There is a procedure to report a lost/stolen card for airline, but doesn't look like it applies to our case
Yes we know about the procedure for reporting a GC lost or stolen, that process most definitely does not apply to your situation. We would have pointed you towards it in the first place if it was applicable.
 
Hi again everyone, I need help. Today we got another biometrics appointment for November, but I asked for March and asked to schedule overseas. This was ignored. Can someone advise what to try and is it safe to reschedule biometrics every month (for 2-3 more times till February when we have passports ready to travel)? Is it possible to talk to a more senior staff instead of operator somehow - the operators basically tell they don't know and they can only leave notes?
Here is from USCIS (this is footnote 1)
Requestors residing overseas may be fingerprinted by USCIS officers overseas, a U.S. consular officer at a U.S. embassy or consulate, or at a U.S. military installation abroad
 
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Hi again everyone, I need help. Today we got another biometrics appointment for November, but I asked for March and asked to schedule overseas. This was ignored. Can someone advise what to try and is it safe to reschedule biometrics every month (for 2-3 more times till February when we have passports ready to travel)? Is it possible to talk to a more senior staff instead of operator somehow - the operators basically tell they don't know and they can only leave notes?
Here is from USCIS (this is footnote 1)
They generally will not reschedule more than twice.
As was already noted in the thread above, they don’t reschedule according to your schedule, they do it according to theirs. So it’s not surprising you didn’t get what you asked for. Your footnote aside, I have never heard of it being allowed to be done overseas. Maybe for those serving in the military or their families. Remember the base assumption is that a green card holder is residing in the US most of the time.
 
Your footnote aside, I have never heard of it being allowed to be done overseas. Maybe for those serving in the military or their families. Remember the base assumption is that a green card holder is residing in the US most of the time.
Yup. For family members of those serving in the military. Or for folks going through a DCF (Direct Consular Filing) process.
 
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