Seattle Regional DOL Tracker

10/21/2004: DOL National Processing Centers and Jurisdictions

The National Processing Center in Chicago will cover the states under the jurisdictions of current Region IV (Dallas-Denver), Region V (Chicago-Kansas City), and Region VI (San Francisco-Seattle), and the National Processing Center in Atlanta will cover the states under the jurisdictions of current Region I (Boston-New York), Region II (Philadelphia), and Region III (Atlanta).
The list of states under the jurisdiction of the two National Processing Centers are as follows:

Atlanta NPC
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvanis, Delaware, Maryland, Washington, D.C., Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi

Chicago NPC
Alaska, Hawaii, Washington, Oregon, California, Idano, Nevada, Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, Arkansas, Louisiana

The concept of NPC and BEC is premised on prevention of backlogs for the new cases which are filed with the NPC through the State Offices after January 1, 2005, and removal of backlog cases which have been filed before January 1, 2005 through the BEC. Should the DOL launch the PERM, it is conceivable that the intended goal of prevention of accumulation of cases or backlogs may be achievable by the two NPCs without much hurdle. However, should the DOL fail to get approval of the PERM regulation and be forced to continue the current RIR/Regular/Limited Review Processing labor certification system, the perceived goal of prevention of backlogs for the new cases after January 1, 2005 may pose a challenge for the two NPCs. When 10 or 6 Regions created such huge backlog of 300,000, one wonders how the two Centers would be able to process the same types of cases without creating another huge backlogs even if it is assumed that the DOL may adopt electronic filing system. Current labor certification system retains the so-called "supervised" labor certification process in such cases as Regular Labor Certification and Limited Review Processing applications, which consume tremendous resources, unlike the PERM program. It is interesting to watch how this new plan will unfold during the first six months in the calendar year 2005.
As for the backlog reduction tasks of the BECs, the DOL anticipates approximately 2 years to remove all the backlogs. Since the plan adopts FIFO processing principle, the backlog cases will be adjudicated in reverse order or counter clock wise in terms of the processing times. The oldest cases will be adjudicted earliest and the the latest cases will be adjudicated the last. Accordingly, the oldest filers will soon get adjudications,while the recent filers may have to endure a long wait to see their cases adjudicated by the BECs. Theoretically, the cases which are filed close to the end of the year 2004 can even take up to two years to get adjudication of their cases.
This presents a strategic question for the prospective filers of new labor certification applications: Whether or not it would be advisable to file before the end of the year 2004 or after January 1, 2005. Since those cases which are filed before the end of 2004 will be transferred to the BECs and other Regional Offices which can take up to two years to adjudicate because of the processing rule of FIFO, these prospective applicants should assess carefully the desirability of filing of their cases before the end of the year. They should seek legal counsel for such decision. On the other hand, filing after January 1, 2005 may present certain problem itself. The advantage seems to be that the FIFO processing rule may be confined to the NPC cases and the filers in the first few months may witness a fairly prompt adjudication of their cases. However, as the time progresses, it is anticipated that the NPCs would face their own backlogs, assuming that the PERM program never materializes. Additionally, should the PERM program be launched, they will have no options but filing the PERM applications which may not be in the best interest of the new applicants depending on the situation of the businesses. Reportedly, the proposed PERM regulation has been substantially revised towards the restrictive direction and it is unkown factor at the best at this point of time. Remember that once the PERM program is launched, the options of regular application, RIR or limited review processing under the current labor certification system will disappear!! We will have to watch carefully how the PERM regulation will unfold after the National election.
 
Update

Here is some cases that certified ( As per AVM)

9579477 03/22/04 Y 10/26/04
9579476 03/22/04 Y 10/26/04
9579541 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579540 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579538 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579537 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579534 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579532 03/25/04 Y 10/25/04
9579526 03/25/04 Y 10/25/04
9579516 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579510 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579509 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579508 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579558 03/26/04 Y 10/26/04
9579559 03/26/04 Y 10/26/04


marlon2006 - I do not see any cases certified with RD in April
 
jayjo7 said:
Here is some cases that certified ( As per AVM)

9579477 03/22/04 Y 10/26/04
9579476 03/22/04 Y 10/26/04
9579541 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579540 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579538 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579537 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579534 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579532 03/25/04 Y 10/25/04
9579526 03/25/04 Y 10/25/04
9579516 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579510 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579509 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579508 03/25/04 Y 10/26/04
9579558 03/26/04 Y 10/26/04
9579559 03/26/04 Y 10/26/04


marlon2006 - I do not see any cases certified with RD in April

Thanks. Well, at least it is moving. If it continues like this it might reach April next week, I hope.
 
Here are some cases that certified on 10/27/04(As Per AVM)
9579524 03/25/04 Y 10/27/04
9579520 03/25/04 Y 10/27/04
9579560 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579561 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579562 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579563 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579564 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579565 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579566 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579567 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
9579568 03/26/04 Y 10/27/04
 
abdallah said:
Jay,
Do you know of any new certifications lately?

Thanks!
Some certification as per AVM

9580401 04/06/04 Y 11/01/04
9580402 04/06/04 Y 11/01/04
9580319 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580322 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580325 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580328 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580330 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580332 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580333 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580335 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580337 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580338 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580340 04/05/04 Notice of Finding 11/01/04
9580341 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580344 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580346 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580347 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580348 04/05/04 Y 11/01/04
9580188 04/02/04 Remanded to State 11/01/04
9580187 04/02/04 Notice of Finding 11/01/04
9580186 04/02/04 Notice of Finding 11/01/04
9580185 04/02/04 Notice of Finding 11/01/04
9580173 04/02/04 Y 11/01/04
9580171 04/02/04 Remanded to State 11/01/04
9580169 04/02/04 Y 11/01/04
9580172 04/02/04 Y 10/29/04
9580163 04/02/04 Y 10/29/04
9580161 04/02/04 Y 10/29/04
9580160 04/02/04 Y 10/29/04
9580158 04/02/04 Y 10/29/04
9580156 04/02/04 Y 10/29/04
9580094 04/01/04 Y 10/29/04
9580095 04/01/04 Y 10/29/04
9580096 04/01/04 Y 10/29/04
9580097 04/01/04 Y 10/29/04
9580089 04/01/04 Y 10/29/04
9580090 04/01/04 Notice of finding 10/29/04
9579810 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
9579811 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
9579812 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
9579813 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
9579814 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
9579815 03/29/04 Remanded to State 10/28/04
9579818 03/29/04 NOF 10/28/04
9579820 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
9579822 03/29/04 Y 10/28/04
 
Could "NOF" status means the 3 option letter ?

Do you know if cases that appear status "NOF" could be the 3 option letter ?
 
Some certification as per AVM

9580400 04/06/04 Y 11/02/04
9580349 04/05/04 Y 11/02/04
9580350 04/05/04 Y 11/02/04
9580351 04/05/04 Y 11/02/04
9580352 04/05/04 Notice of Finding 11/02/04
 
Is my case transferred to BEC ??

Darn. My case was forwarded from SESA WA->DOL on 05/10/04.
Does it mean that my case is being processed by BEC ?
 
marlon2006 said:
Darn. My case was forwarded from SESA WA->DOL on 05/10/04.
Does it mean that my case is being processed by BEC ?
I do not think so, the SFO forwarded the cases from 05/01/03, please note the Year
 
Some certification as per AVM

9580403 04/06/04 Y 11/03/04
9580404 04/06/04 Y 11/03/04
9580405 04/06/04 Y 11/03/04
9580406 04/06/04 Y 11/03/04
9580407 04/06/04 Y 11/03/04
9580408 04/06/04 Y 11/03/04
9580584 04/08/04 Y 11/03/04
9580586 04/08/04 Y 11/03/04
9580587 04/08/04 Notice of Finding 11/03/04
9580589 04/08/04 Notice of Finding 11/03/04
 
Case status

Hi,
My SWA was Oregon, and I think the case should go to Seattle DOL queue. But my lawyer says it went to SFO DOL queue.
I just called 415-975-4617 and 1 and 1 and enter my case number and go the following info:
"Case # 0959xxx was received on Aug 17th 2004 with xxx DOT code.
The status was updated on Aug 17th 2004"

There was no information as to which queue it was or if it was sent to any of the BECs.

Could any one please shed light on how to find out which queue I am in (don't know if it matters it goes to a BEC). And if it has gone to any one of the BECs.

If my case was in SFO DOL queue, it would have gone to one of the BECs (Phili or Dallas) by now as per postings in this forum, correct?
So does that mean my lawyer is certainly wrong/ignorant?

Thanks
 
navdod said:
Hi,
My SWA was Oregon, and I think the case should go to Seattle DOL queue. But my lawyer says it went to SFO DOL queue.
I just called 415-975-4617 and 1 and 1 and enter my case number and go the following info:
"Case # 0959xxx was received on Aug 17th 2004 with xxx DOT code.
The status was updated on Aug 17th 2004"

There was no information as to which queue it was or if it was sent to any of the BECs.

Could any one please shed light on how to find out which queue I am in (don't know if it matters it goes to a BEC). And if it has gone to any one of the BECs.

If my case was in SFO DOL queue, it would have gone to one of the BECs (Phili or Dallas) by now as per postings in this forum, correct?
So does that mean my lawyer is certainly wrong/ignorant?

Thanks
Your Lawyer is giving wrong information, if you case is transfeered from OR SWA it will be and should be in the Seattle Queue

If you go back and see the postings form "WaitinglyPaitently" you will see what happens to his case. His lawyers were telling him that the case is SFO queue where he is from WA, later his case was certified ( RD APIRL 04). Some time these lawyers just give out some general information with out looking into to case.. i believe that is what happen in your case too
 
To navdod

Your lawyer is correct in saying that your case was sent to SF DOL, because the Seatle DOL and SF DOL have been "consolidated" for quite sometime now, which means these two offices are in the same location. If you check the phone number of Seatle DOL and SF DOL, you will find that they are the same.
But apparently these two offices are working on these cases seperately, there is a queue for CA cases and a seperate queue for cases from other western states. The cases sent to BEC are only CA cases from May 2003. Since your case is from Oregon, it should still be in SF office.
Hope it helps.
 
Seattle DOL queue closes by Jan 2005?

Thanks TomDragon appreciate your insight into this.
I remember reading somewhere in this forum that SFO DOL will remain in affect till 2006. Does that mean that the Seattle DOL queue will also remain in affect till 2006, or is it subject just to the number of cases remaining in the BECs.
Or, as also mentioned, will the Seattle DOL queue ceases to process cases by Jan 2005, upon which all cases in the Seattle DOL queue will move to one(hope not more!) or the BECs/NPCs?

Cheers
 
To Navdod

These are the things I would like to find out too.
I certainly hope the cases will be handled in Seatle queue, not moved to
NPC after Jan 1, 2005. My case was submitted to SFO DOL in July from Idaho, we are in the same boat.
Keep us posted if you find something.
 
SWA Received Date?

Here is a post from Icarus that answers our question...

Originally Posted by RIRhouston
Icarus,
Thanks for all your information inputs. I know this question is kind of redundant but when you talk about applications being processed according to PD, what are you referrign to ? the date the application was recieved in the SWA or at the DOL regional office.
Thanks,
RN

Currently, the SWA (L.O. or Local Office) received date is being used. Unfortunately, as I'm sure everyone is painfully aware, this could change, but that is what is being used presently. Suggestions have been made to use R.O. date for those applications that have progressed that far and L.O. date for the rest, but potential inequities in using one date for some and another for the rest have been pointed out. This scenario arises when one state has a larger backlog than another and an application is filed prior to that in the faster processing state. This is where DOL/BEC got the idea of using FIFO to level the field and make an attempt at fairness. Obviously, if the applicant/ beneficiary is from the quicker state, this would be bad news. Decision probably won't be etched in stone until 45-day letters start to come back to the BEC and actual consideration of applications begins.
 
Any updates from folks with April RDs?

userName ------- Case#-------Regional RD--Regular/RIR --STATE----- Certified on System Updated On
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tarantula -------- 09574xxx --- 10/20/2003 --- RIR-------- N/A ----- 04/30/2004
dongov ---------- 09575xxx --- 11/06/2003 --- RIR ------- N/A ----- 07/06/2004
trytosurvive------ ------------ 12/12/2003 --- RIR-------- N/A ----- 07/21/2004
fatichar ----------------------- 12/22/2003--- RIR ------- WA ----- 08/20/2004
ljzm ------------- 09576xxx --- 12/29/2003 --- RIR-------- N/A ----- 07/22/2004
Reliable Source--- 09576xxx --- 01/15/2004 --- RIR-------- WA ----- 07/28/2004
Brt96-------- ---- 09576xxx --- 01/15/2004 --- RIR-------- N/A ----- 07/28/2004
oburlacu ---------09577xxx -----01/22/2004 ---- RIR---------WA------I don't know-but it's certified
tandtad2628 ----- N/A---------01/15/2004-----RIR--------WA ------08/04/2004
lc_certifiy-------- 09578xxx --- 01/29/2004 --- RIR ------- WA ------08/04/2004
SeattleLC--------- N/A-------- 02/02/2004 --- RIR-------- WA ------ 08/20/2004
affandar--------- 09578xxx --- 02/02/2004 --- RIR-------- WA -------08/13/2004
gparappuram ----- 09578xxx -- 02/17/2004 --- RIR-------- WA -------08/23/2004
Beaver -----------09578xxx--- 02/20/2004 --- RIR ------- OR ------- 08/30/2004
#GCSync --------09578xxx--- 03/08/2004 --- RIR -------- WA ------ 09/29/2004
pdxbuysell--------09579xxx--- 03/12/2004 --- RIR-------- OR ------- 10/04/04
oregonMG---------09579xxx--- 03/15/2004 --- RIR-------- OR ------ 09/30/04
WaitngPatiently----N/A-------- 03/15/2004 --- RIR-------- WA ----- 10/15/04
jayjo7 ----------- 09580xxx --- 04/12/2004 --- RIR-------- WA
milski ------------ 09581xxx --- 04/19/2004 --- RIR -------- WA
Marlon2006-------xxxxxxx------05/10/2004-----RIR --------WA
GCin2005 -------- 09582xxx --- 05/19/2004 --- RIR-------- OR
Abdallah-----------xxxxxxxx --- 06/02/2004 --- RIR---------OR
TomDragon------- 09588xxx --- 07/14/2004 --- RIR-------- ID
Navdod ---------- 09591xxx --- 08/13/2004 --- RIR-------- OR
 
Here is some processed case as per AVM, i beleive they are processin the 04/09/04 cases

9580625 04/09/04 Y 11/05/04
9580627 04/09/04 Y 11/05/04
9580633 04/09/04 Y 11/05/04
9580635 04/09/04 Y 11/05/04
9580637 04/09/04 Y 11/05/04
9580640 04/09/04 Notice of finding 11/05/04
9580642 04/09/04 Notice of finding 11/05/04
9580646 04/09/04 Y 11/05/04
9580590 04/08/04 Y 11/05/04
9580601 04/08/04 Y 11/05/04
9580603 04/08/04 Y 11/05/04
9580605 04/08/04 Y 11/05/04
9580606 04/08/04 Y 11/05/04
9580495 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580497 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580498 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580502 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580504 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580505 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580507 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580500 04/07/04 Y 11/05/04
9580409 04/06/04 Y 11/05/04
9580594 04/08/04 Notice of Finding 11/04/04
9580595 04/08/04 Notice of Finding 11/04/04
9580596 04/08/04 Notice of Finding 11/04/04
9580598 04/08/04 Y 11/04/04
9580599 04/08/04 Y 11/04/04
9580600 04/08/04 Y 11/04/04
 
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