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Please help me in knowing

Hi Gp111,
My husband's RD is Nov 24, 2004. And I know his application must have gone to Philly or Dallas BEC's. His is filed in EB3 category.

How long would it take for his LC to get approved? Is the new retrogression news of EB3's going to affect his LC or 485? Please explain...

Thanks for all your valuable feedbacks.

Malini
 
AmarMalini said:
Hi Gp111,
My husband's RD is Nov 24, 2003. And I know his application must have gone to Philly or Dallas BEC's. His is filed in EB3 category.
How long would it take for his LC to get approved? Is the new retrogression news of EB3's going to affect his LC or 485? Please explain...
Thanks for all your valuable feedbacks.

Malini

Million $ Question.. I wish I knew the answer. We will only have good idea about "when" after we get the "mighty" letters for BEC & see how is the processing speed of BECs..

PD Retrogression in expected in EB-3 by Jan-2005.. If the PD retrogress earlier then Nov-02 (that should be your SWA PD right ?) when your LC gets certified, you will have to wait till it becomes current to file I-485..
 
Progressive experience

gp111,

Could you please clarify the "...for BS+5, it must be Progressive experience... part? What exactly does "progressive experience" mean?


gp111 said:

You should have an American MS + some experience before filing the LC
Or BS+5 yrs progressive experience before filing LC (means practically before joining the sponser company). I may be wrong that On Job experience may not be counted.


Any Masters (12+4+Masters) equ. to American MS...& On the Job Experience does not count...for BS+5, it must be Progressive experience...
 
GCIsTortoise said:
Hi folks,

It seems we forget the purpose of this thread. What is the current processing date of DOL. Still in Mar 13th? Do they stop processing?

They are processing but very slow (from AVM it seems they are now down to porcessing 8-10 cases per day). Some of the certifications for 11/9 are -

09552757
09552759
09552761
09552795
09552808
09552811
09552805
 
Hi,
Is AVM down? I just checked and it just kept ringing. Is there any alternate way to check the status of case numbers?
Thanks.
 
Basic question PD & RD

Hi,

Ask a basic question about the PD. I call SF DOL AVM, it tells me the receive date, is that my RD? But what is my PD? How can I know it.

Thanks.
 
gp111,

Could you please clarify the "...for BS+5 Progressive experience..." part? What exactly does "progressive experience" mean?
 
GotGC?? said:
gp111,

Could you please clarify the "...for BS+5 Progressive experience..." part? What exactly does "progressive experience" mean?

Means you should have an experience of 5 yrs in the field of after you attained Degree.

Say you attained degree in 2000 then you can file under this category after 2005.

What is the Equivalent of an Advanced Degree?

The equivalent of an advanced degree is either a U.S.
baccalaureate or foreign equivalent degree followed by at least five
years of progressive experience in the specialty. Consequently, an
alien beneficiary who does not actually hold an advanced degree may
still qualify as an EB-2 professional if he or she has the
equivalent of an advanced degree.
There are several ways in which an alien seeking EB-2
classification may satisfy the advanced-degree requirement. The
simplest is by possessing a U.S. academic or professional degree
above the level of baccalaureate. In the alternative, the foreign
equivalent of such a degree is equally acceptable.
An alien with a U.S. or foreign equivalent baccalaureate degree
who does not possess an advanced degree may still meet this
requirement if the baccalaureate-level degree is followed by at
least five years of ``progressive experience'' in the specialty.

-hope this clarifies

mnhrdc
 
GotGC?? said:
gp111,

Could you please clarify the "...for BS+5 Progressive experience..." part? What exactly does "progressive experience" mean?
This is from INS Memo:
What exactly is Progressive Experience?

"Progressive experience" is not defined by statute or regulation. Its plain meaning within the context of EB-2 adjudications is relatively simple; employment experience that reveals progress, moves forward, and advances toward increasingly complex or responsible duties. In short, progressive experience is demonstrated by advancing levels of responsibility and knowledge in the specialty.

Recognizing progressive experience in blocks 14 and 15 of the ETA-750, however, is not so simple. Much of the uncertainty concerning such determinations involves petitions for highly technical positions, which invariably describe required experience in highly technical terms. Such descriptions may be difficult to understand for anyone outside that specific industry.

Adjudicators who encounter these types of descriptions should request that petitioners provide, to the extent possible, plain-English explanations of the experience required. Such descriptions may take the form of a supplemental statement filed with the Service Centers indicating why five years of post-baccalaureate and progressive experience would be necessary to perform successfully the duties set forth in highly technical job descriptions. The supplemental statement should be an affidavit (or other statement under penalty of perjury) from some person within the petitioning firm who has relevant knowledge concerning the minimum acceptable qualifications for the position involved in the Form I-140. It is incumbent upon the petitioner to describe the position offered in such a way so that an adjudicator can reasonably determine whether the job actually requires an advanced degree or, in the alternative, five years of post-baccalaureate experience that is progressive in nature.

It is reasonable to infer that highly technical positions are progressive in nature due to the constant state of change in their respective industries. This is not to say, however, that five years of post-baccalaureate experience in a highly technical position automatically translates to an advanced degree in every case. As with any adjudication, a petition seeking classification for an EB-2 advanced degree professional should be decided on a case-by-case basis.
 
1 year = 3 month!!!!!

Year 2004 seems worst year for california Labor certification. It almost took 1 year!!!! for processing 3 months worth labor application. :mad: :eek:


will_get_there1 said:
They are processing but very slow (from AVM it seems they are now down to porcessing 8-10 cases per day). Some of the certifications for 11/9 are -

09552757
09552759
09552761
09552795
09552808
09552811
09552805
 
Department of Labor’s FY 2005 Transition Guidance

Labor Certification Update: Department of Labor’s FY 2005 Transition Guidance

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Immigration News(http://www.usavisanow.com/11-10-04.html)

November 10, 2004

The Assistant Secretary of the Employment and Training Administration (“ETA”) of the Department of Labor (“DOL”) recently issued a Fiscal Year 2005 Transition Guidance memorandum (“TG memo”) to all state workforce agencies (“SWAs”).

The TG memo states that the role of SWAs will be diminished, and labor certification adjudication will be centralized at two national processing centers whether or not the PERM program is implemented.

According to the TG memo, the DOL is proceeding on the assumption that the final PERM regulation will be published before the end of 2004, but outlines a contingency plan in the event the long-awaited PERM regulation is not published.

The TG memo outlines its current 2005 plan, its 2005 contingency plan, the role of the SWAs, and backlog reduction shipment schedules. A summary of these points is as follows:

DOL’s Current Plan:

The final PERM regulation is still pending clearance at the Office of Management and Budget.

If the PERM regulation is published, the SWAs will no longer accept labor certification applications.

After the PERM effective date, the role of the SWA with respect to labor certification review will be limited to prevailing wage determinations.

The TG memo confirms that the DOL is proceeding on the assumption that the final PERM regulation will be published before the end of the 2004 calendar year, and that the new program will be operational within sixty (60) days of the publication date, not 120 days as previously reported by the DOL.

DOL’s Contingency Plan:

The TG memo provides for a contingency plan in the event that the PERM regulation is not published. Regardless of whether PERM is published, the SWA role will change in 2005. Processing will shift from a state-federal system to a primarily federally-administered program.

In July 2004, the DOL published a backlog reduction interim final rule to allow the transfer of labor certification cases pending at either a DOL regional office or a SWA to one or more centralized processing locations. This rule also allows the DOL to consolidate state and federal processing functions in a central location. This permits SWAs to accept cases from employers, but no longer allows them to review applications.

To implement this backlog reduction regulation, the DOL has established two backlog elimination centers, one in Dallas and one in Philadelphia.

The DOL has moved federal staff from DOL regional offices to these two backlog centers.

Both contractor and federal staff training has started, and the TG memo reports that labor certification applications will soon be adjudicated by the backlog reduction centers.

Dallas and Philadelphia will initially process the DOL regional office backlogs and then begin to handle cases currently backlogged at the SWAs.

Work at the backlog reduction centers will be augmented by case processing occurring at the DOL regional offices and the SWAs. The DOL expects the Dallas and Philadelphia backlog centers to complete their work within two years, at which point they will be closed. In addition, the DOL is in the process of establishing national processing centers in Atlanta and Chicago, where all labor certification applications (except for those backlogged cases being processed in Dallas and Philadelphia) will be adjudicated. These national centers are expected to be operational by January 1, 2005. If PERM is not implemented, Atlanta and Chicago will serve as two additional backlog reduction locations.

State Workforce Agency Role:

If the PERM regulation is published, SWAs are instructed to stop accepting labor certification applications sixty-one (61) days after the publication of the regulation.

The DOL will issue specific guidance as to where SWAs will forward remaining applications.

SWAs will continue to accept and review cases until January 1, 2005, at which point, SWAs will not start review of any applications, but simply date stamp and log applications in order to establish a filing date (priority date). After January 1, 2005, cases at SWAs that are in the process of SWA review should be completed and then forwarded to Atlanta or Chicago.

SWAs will continue to accept but not open and review cases filed by employers after January 1, 2005. These applications will be forwarded to either Atlanta or Chicago based upon a schedule to be provided to the SWAs.

SWA cases that are under review up until January 1, 2005, will be sent to the currently assigned DOL regional office.

Backlog Reduction Center Shipment Schedules:

The ETA estimates that by March 31, 2005, all SWA backlog cases will be transferred to one of the backlog reduction centers in Dallas or Philadelphia, or assigned to a DOL regional office for completion of processing.

All cases received at backlog centers will be processed in order of priority date to ensure the oldest cases are worked on first.

Traditional and Reduction in Recruitment (“RIR”) cases will continue to be reviewed in two different tracks at the backlog reduction centers.

The DOL regional office in San Francisco has already transferred 20,000 pending labor certification applications to the backlog centers.

This transfer will assist in reducing the oldest federal backlog of cases. Applications that a regional office has already started to review will not be transferred in order to avoid case disruption.

The first shipment of cases from the SWAs was scheduled in October 2004. This consists of those cases at the state level with the oldest priority dates, regardless of geographic location. Therefore, not all SWAs have been involved in this first round because the DOL’s concentration is focused on the oldest case backlogs.

The final round of case shipments will begin in January 2005, and should be received by the backlog centers no later than the end of March 2005. This will include all cases received by all SWAs prior to December 31, 2004, for which case review has not started.

What this means:

The following points summarize the most significant changes to labor certification processing that will begin on January 1, 2005:

The national processing of labor certification applications will use a first-in, first-out policy, regardless of the location where the case was originally filed in order to apply an equitable and fair approach.

Because of the national processing approach to labor certification review, there will be no processing advantage to filing in one geographical location versus another.

The backlog reduction centers will review cases in order of priority date, and that will benefit the most severely backlogged states: California, New York, and New Jersey.

The 20,000 cases that have been shipped from the San Francisco DOL regional office have not yet been identified, and it is unknown to which backlog reduction center they have been shipped.

As the backlog reduction plan is rolled out, the DOL will send to attorneys of record notification of where cases are being sent, as well as a request for confirmation that the employer intends to continue the application.

If PERM is not implemented, the Atlanta and Chicago national processing centers will serve as two additional backlog reduction sites.

If PERM is not implemented, labor certification applications submitted after January 1, 2005, will continue to be filed with SWAs, and then transferred, in order of priority date, to either a backlog reduction center, or to one of the national processing centers in Atlanta or Chicago.

Cases will be forwarded from SWAs based upon a schedule from the ETA division of DOL.Therefore, cases filed with a SWA after January 1, 2005 will not receive any sort of priority in adjudication.

Substantial and significant reduction in both the traditional and RIR backlogs is expected in 2005, particularly for cases filed in California.


We will provide more information as soon as it becomes available.
 
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Under State Workforce Agency Role ,It says " After January 1, 2005, cases at SWAs that are in the process of SWA review should be completed and then forwarded to Atlanta or Chicago. "
BUT it also says " SWA cases that are under review up until January 1, 2005, will be sent to the currently assigned DOL regional office "

Isn't that contradictory ? What does it mean ?

What is the difference between " in the process of SWA review" and "under review" ? . Sounds same to me.But one says it will go to Atlanta / Chicago and other sentence says it will go to Regional DOL office.

It is so confusing.




basss said:
Labor Certification Update: Department of Labor’s FY 2005 Transition Guidance

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Immigration News(http://www.usavisanow.com/11-10-04.html)

November 10, 2004

The Assistant Secretary of the Employment and Training Administration (“ETA”) of the Department of Labor (“DOL”) recently issued a Fiscal Year 2005 Transition Guidance memorandum (“TG memo”) to all state workforce agencies (“SWAs”).

The TG memo states that the role of SWAs will be diminished, and labor certification adjudication will be centralized at two national processing centers whether or not the PERM program is implemented.

According to the TG memo, the DOL is proceeding on the assumption that the final PERM regulation will be published before the end of 2004, but outlines a contingency plan in the event the long-awaited PERM regulation is not published.

The TG memo outlines its current 2005 plan, its 2005 contingency plan, the role of the SWAs, and backlog reduction shipment schedules. A summary of these points is as follows:

DOL’s Current Plan:

The final PERM regulation is still pending clearance at the Office of Management and Budget.

If the PERM regulation is published, the SWAs will no longer accept labor certification applications.

After the PERM effective date, the role of the SWA with respect to labor certification review will be limited to prevailing wage determinations.

The TG memo confirms that the DOL is proceeding on the assumption that the final PERM regulation will be published before the end of the 2004 calendar year, and that the new program will be operational within sixty (60) days of the publication date, not 120 days as previously reported by the DOL.

DOL’s Contingency Plan:

The TG memo provides for a contingency plan in the event that the PERM regulation is not published. Regardless of whether PERM is published, the SWA role will change in 2005. Processing will shift from a state-federal system to a primarily federally-administered program.

In July 2004, the DOL published a backlog reduction interim final rule to allow the transfer of labor certification cases pending at either a DOL regional office or a SWA to one or more centralized processing locations. This rule also allows the DOL to consolidate state and federal processing functions in a central location. This permits SWAs to accept cases from employers, but no longer allows them to review applications.

To implement this backlog reduction regulation, the DOL has established two backlog elimination centers, one in Dallas and one in Philadelphia.

The DOL has moved federal staff from DOL regional offices to these two backlog centers.

Both contractor and federal staff training has started, and the TG memo reports that labor certification applications will soon be adjudicated by the backlog reduction centers.

Dallas and Philadelphia will initially process the DOL regional office backlogs and then begin to handle cases currently backlogged at the SWAs.

Work at the backlog reduction centers will be augmented by case processing occurring at the DOL regional offices and the SWAs. The DOL expects the Dallas and Philadelphia backlog centers to complete their work within two years, at which point they will be closed. In addition, the DOL is in the process of establishing national processing centers in Atlanta and Chicago, where all labor certification applications (except for those backlogged cases being processed in Dallas and Philadelphia) will be adjudicated. These national centers are expected to be operational by January 1, 2005. If PERM is not implemented, Atlanta and Chicago will serve as two additional backlog reduction locations.

State Workforce Agency Role:

If the PERM regulation is published, SWAs are instructed to stop accepting labor certification applications sixty-one (61) days after the publication of the regulation.

The DOL will issue specific guidance as to where SWAs will forward remaining applications.

SWAs will continue to accept and review cases until January 1, 2005, at which point, SWAs will not start review of any applications, but simply date stamp and log applications in order to establish a filing date (priority date). After January 1, 2005, cases at SWAs that are in the process of SWA review should be completed and then forwarded to Atlanta or Chicago.

SWAs will continue to accept but not open and review cases filed by employers after January 1, 2005. These applications will be forwarded to either Atlanta or Chicago based upon a schedule to be provided to the SWAs.

SWA cases that are under review up until January 1, 2005, will be sent to the currently assigned DOL regional office.

Backlog Reduction Center Shipment Schedules:

The ETA estimates that by March 31, 2005, all SWA backlog cases will be transferred to one of the backlog reduction centers in Dallas or Philadelphia, or assigned to a DOL regional office for completion of processing.

All cases received at backlog centers will be processed in order of priority date to ensure the oldest cases are worked on first.

Traditional and Reduction in Recruitment (“RIR”) cases will continue to be reviewed in two different tracks at the backlog reduction centers.

The DOL regional office in San Francisco has already transferred 20,000 pending labor certification applications to the backlog centers.

This transfer will assist in reducing the oldest federal backlog of cases. Applications that a regional office has already started to review will not be transferred in order to avoid case disruption.

The first shipment of cases from the SWAs was scheduled in October 2004. This consists of those cases at the state level with the oldest priority dates, regardless of geographic location. Therefore, not all SWAs have been involved in this first round because the DOL’s concentration is focused on the oldest case backlogs.

The final round of case shipments will begin in January 2005, and should be received by the backlog centers no later than the end of March 2005. This will include all cases received by all SWAs prior to December 31, 2004, for which case review has not started.

What this means:

The following points summarize the most significant changes to labor certification processing that will begin on January 1, 2005:

The national processing of labor certification applications will use a first-in, first-out policy, regardless of the location where the case was originally filed in order to apply an equitable and fair approach.

Because of the national processing approach to labor certification review, there will be no processing advantage to filing in one geographical location versus another.

The backlog reduction centers will review cases in order of priority date, and that will benefit the most severely backlogged states: California, New York, and New Jersey.

The 20,000 cases that have been shipped from the San Francisco DOL regional office have not yet been identified, and it is unknown to which backlog reduction center they have been shipped.

As the backlog reduction plan is rolled out, the DOL will send to attorneys of record notification of where cases are being sent, as well as a request for confirmation that the employer intends to continue the application.

If PERM is not implemented, the Atlanta and Chicago national processing centers will serve as two additional backlog reduction sites.

If PERM is not implemented, labor certification applications submitted after January 1, 2005, will continue to be filed with SWAs, and then transferred, in order of priority date, to either a backlog reduction center, or to one of the national processing centers in Atlanta or Chicago.

Cases will be forwarded from SWAs based upon a schedule from the ETA division of DOL.Therefore, cases filed with a SWA after January 1, 2005 will not receive any sort of priority in adjudication.

Substantial and significant reduction in both the traditional and RIR backlogs is expected in 2005, particularly for cases filed in California.


We will provide more information as soon as it becomes available.
 
help4lc said:
Under State Workforce Agency Role ,It says " After January 1, 2005, cases at SWAs that are in the process of SWA review should be completed and then forwarded to Atlanta or Chicago. "
BUT it also says " SWA cases that are under review up until January 1, 2005, will be sent to the currently assigned DOL regional office "

Isn't that contradictory ? What does it mean ?

What is the difference between " in the process of SWA review" and "under review" ? . Sounds same to me.But one says it will go to Atlanta / Chicago and other sentence says it will go to Regional DOL office.

It is so confusing.
I believe the key is: "up until" and "after". I understand it as - if a case is processed by SWA before Jan 1, 2005, it will be xferred to regional DOL office. If a case is processed by SWA after Jan 1, 2005, it will be xferred to Atlanta or Chicago.
 
Richard_sjsv said:
Hi,

Ask a basic question about the PD. I call SF DOL AVM, it tells me the receive date, is that my RD? But what is my PD? How can I know it.

Thanks.



I have posted several days. But nobody answer.

Please help, how to calculate my PD ??

Thanks a lot.
 
Need help

Hi Gp111,

Is it possible one can use his/her pending labor priority date(June,02) from company A as the priority date of his/her when filing 140/485 with his/her approved labor(priority date jan,,04) from company B when visa cutoff dates is the issue in EB3 category in the future

Thanks for the help in advance..
 
WaitingonLC said:
Hi Gp111,

Is it possible one can use his/her pending labor priority date(June,02) from company A as the priority date of his/her when filing 140/485 with his/her approved labor(priority date jan,,04) from company B when visa cutoff dates is the issue in EB3 category in the future

Thanks for the help in advance..

I have heard it can be done... How ? Check with Attorney.
 
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