S. 1932 Status

Next Step!

The Senate has finally seen the light of reason and voted overwhemingly against the Byrd Amendment. This measure will provide much needed relief to the American Economy and also to affected individuals.

Now, you everyone needs to contact their House Representatives to ensure these hard-won provisions stay in on the joint House-Senate Reconciliation.
Select your state and district and start contacting your congresssman/woman today. I've already called and emailed mine.

www.house.gov


I'm sure Loo Dobbs will do his usual ranting on this today evening:)
 
Commensense knows no bounds!

Greatest nation on earth has at last shown that there are people across party lines with commonsense in rejecting the lies and concoctions of the idiotic senator from WV, by throwing the Byrd shit to Atlantic and Pacific oceans.Hats off to those people who worked to the last minute to get the message of truth to their senators.
For my humble part,I had e-mailed and called almost every single senator except that senile moron from Virginia,who walks on two cains.
Next we have to keep sending them thank you notes and their continued support for it to get passed in the combined conference, and by the President.
 
Everyone should congratulate and Thank Mathews Oh(ohlaw@immigration-law.com), 'reporter' of http://www.immigration-law.com. He is the person who made the immigration community aware that Byrd is coming with this amendment. AILA gets benefited from the immigration community but never gives any info to the community. It requires password and logins for reading the info on their website that comes from federal sources. Federal sources think that AILA is a liason between them and immigration community. What a pity?
 
marlon2006 said:
A pretty convincing argument is the one that the visa number incrase is necessary to relief people who has been in the greencard card queue for many years already. It is not necessarily about bringing more people in. Also, we should send letters to the immigration reduction leaders (NumbersUSA, FAIR). If we get some of them to understand our cause, the opposition may be minimized and we are fine from there. I will express that the greencard applicants do not benefit from H1B increase, but it is a reality that an optimal number of H1Bs are necessary to keep America competitive and avoid more offshoring, therefore the S.1932 bill is legitimate.

Good work everyone !
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Here are guy needs more explanation (preech) about immigration issues
List of 14 senators said "YEA" to Byrd amendment
Akaka (D-HI)
Byrd (D-WV)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Vitter (R-LA)

Thanks to following Senators
Alexander (R-TN), Allard (R-CO), Allen (R-VA),Baucus (D-MT),Bayh (D-IN),Bennett (R-UT),Biden (D-DE),Bingaman (D-NM),Bond (R-MO),Boxer (D-CA),Brownback (R-KS),Bunning (R-KY),Burns (R-MT),Burr (R-NC),Cantwell (D-WA),Carper (D-DE),Chafee (R-RI),Chambliss (R-GA),Clinton (D-NY),Coburn (R-OK),Cochran (R-MS),Coleman (R-MN),Collins (R-ME),Conrad (D-ND),Cornyn (R-TX),Craig (R-ID),Crapo (R-ID),DeMint (R-SC),DeWine (R-OH), Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM),Ensign (R-NV),Enzi (R-WY),Feinstein (D-CA),Frist (R-TN),Graham (R-SC),Grassley (R-IA),Gregg (R-NH),Hagel (R-NE),Harkin (D-IA),Hatch (R-UT),Hutchison (R-TX),Inouye (D-HI),Isakson (R-GA),Johnson (D-SD),Kennedy (D-MA),Kerry (D-MA),Kohl (D-WI),Kyl (R-AZ),Lautenberg (D-NJ),Leahy (D-VT),Levin (D-MI),Lieberman (D-CT),Lincoln (D-AR),Lott (R-MS),Lugar (R-IN),Martinez (R-FL),McCain (R-AZ),McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD),Murkowski (R-AK),Murray (D-WA),Nelson (D-FL),Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL),Pryor (D-AR),Reed (D-RI),Reid (D-NV),Roberts (R-KS),Salazar (D-CO),Santorum (R-PA),Sarbanes (D-MD),Schumer (D-NY),Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR),Snowe (R-ME),Specter (R-PA),Stevens (R-AK),Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO),Thomas (R-WY),Thune (R-SD),Voinovich (R-OH),Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)
 
Thank you Senator Mel Martinez and those who voted NO!

I know that there is a little percentage of hispanics in this forum, but I am one of them, Thank you Senators Mel Martinez and Ken Salazar for voting No!

Muchas Gracias Senador Martinez por votar NO!

By the way, Both West Virginia Senators voted Yes: Byrd obviously and the other democrat.

I studied in West Virginia University for 6 months, and I can tell that WV is a state for retirees, the immigration there is minimal!!
 
List of Nays and yeahs!

Guys, this is list of people who voted for and against the Byrd Amendment which was trashed by the senate a few minutes ago.

Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Allard (R-CO), Nay
Allen (R-VA), Nay
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Biden (D-DE), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Bunning (R-KY), Nay
Burns (R-MT), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Chafee (R-RI), Nay
Chambliss (R-GA), Nay
Clinton (D-NY), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Coleman (R-MN), Nay
Collins (R-ME), Nay
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Corzine (D-NJ), Not Voting
Craig (R-ID), Nay
Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Nay
DeWine (R-OH), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Nay
Domenici (R-NM), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Frist (R-TN), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Nay
Grassley (R-IA), Nay
Gregg (R-NH), Nay
Hagel (R-NE), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Jeffords (I-VT), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Nay
Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
Lott (R-MS), Nay
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Martinez (R-FL), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Murkowski (R-AK), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Obama (D-IL), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Nay
Santorum (R-PA), Nay
Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Smith (R-OR), Nay
Snowe (R-ME), Nay
Specter (R-PA), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Sununu (R-NH), Nay
Talent (R-MO), Nay
Thomas (R-WY), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Nay
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (R-VA), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---14
Akaka (D-HI)
Byrd (D-WV)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Vitter (R-LA)

NAYs ---85
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 1
Corzine (D-NJ)

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped by Home State Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Nay
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Nay Pryor (D-AR), Nay
California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Nay Salazar (D-CO), Nay
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Nay
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Nay Carper (D-DE), Nay
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Nay Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Nay Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Nay
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Nay Snowe (R-ME), Nay
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Nay Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Nay Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay Dayton (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Lott (R-MS), Nay
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Nay Talent (R-MO), Nay
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Nay Burns (R-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Nay Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Nay Sununu (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Corzine (D-NJ), Not Voting Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Nay
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Nay Schumer (D-NY), Nay
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Nay Dole (R-NC), Nay
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Nay Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Nay Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Pennsylvania: Santorum (R-PA), Nay Specter (R-PA), Nay
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Nay Reed (D-RI), Nay
South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Nay Graham (R-SC), Nay
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Nay Thune (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Nay Frist (R-TN), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Virginia: Allen (R-VA), Nay Warner (R-VA), Nay
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Murray (D-WA), Nay
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Wyoming: Enzi (R-WY), Nay Thomas (R-WY), Nay
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State




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Bryd's ammendment

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00295

Somehow this says

Statement of Purpose: To replace title VIII of the bill with an amendment to section 214(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act to impose a fee on employers who hire certain non-immigrants.

Somhow this doesnt say anything abt the senator's opposition to the EB3 reforms. I hope, this recapturing thing is not another ammendment.

Can someone please confirm?

Thanks
 
GCin-waitng
I used to get updates from my friends about latest development. Today they asked me to join in to forum and send faxes. I sent faxes and also called couple of senaor offices.
Are we going to send Fax or emails to all Budget Committee Members and House Budget Committee now? Are we going to mail same letter.

Can someone please post the letter format for FAX or EMAIL. Let us ROCK !
 
Great JOB people ... we all stepped up and got things done. I heard Boxer and Feinstein were supporting the amendment ... but probably all our faxes and letters finally changed their opinion.
However ... one quick question: does this bill allows us (victim of retro) to apply 485 and get EAD and AP before real GC ?
Thanks and again CONGRATS to all.
 
i guess what happens next ? reconcilliation between the house and budget bills..?
is someone willing to draft a letter or talking points when calling reps and senators...?



GCin-waitng said:
Budget Committee Members

Senate Budget Committee
Judd Gregg (R–NH), Chairman
Kent Conrad (D–ND), Ranking Member
Jeff Sessions (R–AL)
Wayne Allard (R–CO)
Bill Nelson (D–FL)
Michael D. Crapo (R–ID)
Charles E. Grassley (R–IA)
Jim Bunning (R–KY)
Paul S. Sarbanes (D–MD)
Debbie Stabenow (D–MI)
John Ensign (R–NV)
Jon Corzine (D–NJ)
Pete V. Domenici (R–NM)
Ron Wyden (D–OR)
Lindsey Graham (R–SC)
Tim Johnson (D–SD)
Lamar Alexander (R–TN)
John Cornyn (R–TX)
Patty Murray (D–WA)
Robert C. Byrd (D–WV)
Russell D. Feingold (D–WI)
Michael B. Enzi (R–WY)

House Budget Committee

Jim Nussle (R–IA), Chairman
John Spratt (D–SC), Ranking Member
Jo Bonner (R–AL))
Artur Davis (D–AL)
Lois Capps (D–CA)
Dan Lungren (R–CA)
Rosa DeLauro (D–CT)
Ander Crenshaw (R–FL)
Mario Diaz-Balart (R–FL)
Connie Mack (R–Fl)
Adam Putnam (R–FL)
Adam Putnam (R–FL)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R–FL)
Cynthia McKinney (D–GA)
Ed Case (D–HI)
Dennis Moore (D–KS)
Jim Ryun (R–KS)
William Jefferson (D–LA)
Thomas Allen (D–ME)
Richard Neal (D–MA)
Thaddeus McCotter (R–MI)
Roger Wicker (R–MS)
Kenny Hulshof (R–MO)
Jeb Bradley (R–NH)
Scott Garrett (R–NJ)
Patrick McHenry (R–NC)
Allyson Schwartz (D–PA)
Rob Portman (R–OH)
J. Gresham Barrett (R–SC)
Jim Cooper (D–TN)
Harold Ford (Jr. (D–TN)
Mike Conaway (R–TX)
Henry Cuellar (D–TX)
Chet Edwards (D–TX)
Jeb Hensarling (R–TX)
Pete Sessions–R (TX)
Brian Baird (D–WA)
Ron Kind (D–WI)
Paul Ryan (R–WI)
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Thanks Everyone

I truly appreciate everyone's efforts for urging the senators to vote "NO" on this bill...Many of you took time off from work and dedicated your efforts on this.. I bow for you !! We will have to make sure that the same work is carred out again to the congressmen now.

for my humble part i faxed about 30 letters and made about 15 calls to various senators...

Is there some website where we can send faxes from ?.. sending from fax machine takes long for a repetitive task like this... Please post other ideas as to how we can get the message conveyed to the congressmen more effectively...

Also other than knowing about this bill discussion from immigration-law.com, I also got an email from AILA on Tuesday evening (November 1) alerting me to urge senators to vote against the Byrd amendment. I would request all of you to register with AILA to receive updates on any immigration matters so that you are notified on time as to what is happening in the senate/congress.
 
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17/22 is a very good ratio

Out of the 22 Senate Budget Committee members only FOUR voted for the Byrd Ammendment. One senator did not vote. Even if we include him in the yes camp, 17/22 is a very good ratio.

Voted Yes on Byrd Amdt. No. 2367

Jeff Sessions (R–AL)
Debbie Stabenow (D–MI)
Robert C. Byrd (D–WV)
Russell D. Feingold (D–WI)

Did not Vote

Jon Corzine (D–NJ)
 
amendment has been defeated.
when is the voting going to occur on the budget bill in the senate?
after that the reconciliation with the house bill will need to take place.
nishokie said:
i guess what happens next ? reconcilliation between the house and budget bills..?
is someone willing to draft a letter or talking points when calling reps and senators...?
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Arlen Spector

We all should be proud of ourselves. Congrates to all of us.

If you remember my earlier post that I contacted senator Arlen Spector's office and his staff asked me whether senator should vote yes or no on the amendement.

Well, I called just now to thank the Senator office for votting NO. His staff member lady was so nice to me and said thanks for bringing important matters to senator's attention and because of feedback from people of like you we are able to make correct decision.

Guys, as we all know that House Bill does not have provision for EB and H1B langauge. Also, House members are junior politicians compared to senators. There are only 100 senators (2 per state) compared to around 500 house members. Senators are much more mautured and can easily understand the issue while house members will be difficult to convince. So, we need a greater and stronger effort to educate House Memebers.

Also, in the final process there will be a conference call between House and Senate for working on the differences on the bill. For this, we need to find out that which senators and congressmen will be part of the conference. These senators and congressman will be the final people who will insert the immigration EB and H1b language in the Final Bill that becomes the law.

Lot of work needs to be done. Let's not stop and continue working until it becomes the Law.

Thanks for everyone's suppport and Keep it up....
 
7/39 is another good number

Of the 39 members in the House Budget Committee (LA 1, CT 1, WI 2, AL 2, MI 1) only 7 come from states where the proponents of the Byrd ammendment voted yes.

Since, voting record indicates regional pattern instead of party pattern, I thought these numbers better reflect the situation in the Budget committe.
 
S. 1932 8001 / Physicians

I missed the last part of the vote on S. 1932. One person on this forum mentioned something about a "waiver" discussion in the debate. Did any of you hear any special provisions for J1 waiver (State Conrad-30) or National Interest Waiver Physicians in medically underserved areas.

PS Kudos to every one for their effort. I too personally contacted 98 senators. It is good to note that some senators like Specter who orginally replied "No" changed their mind in our favor after much lobbying.
 
Excel Spreadsheet

Can someone post an excel spreadsheet of phone & fax numbers for congressmen.. similar to the one posted earlier in this thread for senators ?
 
Let's rest later on!

Whom and what should we fax next ??????
Whom and what should we fax next ??????
Whom and what should we fax next ??????
Whom and what should we fax next ??????
 
Great job

john_travolta said:
GCin-waitng
I used to get updates from my friends about latest development. Today they asked me to join in to forum and send faxes. I sent faxes and also called couple of senaor offices.
Are we going to send Fax or emails to all Budget Committee Members and House Budget Committee now? Are we going to mail same letter.

Can someone please post the letter format for FAX or EMAIL. Let us ROCK !
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can anybody sumarize the next steps ( with approximate dates ), I think it is probably as follows
1. contacting Representative of House, send letters, emails & faxes.
2. Finally a vote might be there
3. signature by president.

if so , can anybody post a letter format for fax & email ? if so we can go ahead & distribute widely among ourselves & peers. That can generate a stronger response.
 
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