Renewing National Passport (NP) after Green Card !
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TortFeasor said:
and that is why so many GREEN CARD holders/former asylees are getting asked same questions upon returning back from their trips:
Have you ever go back to COP?
Have you ever renewed the National Passport?
The question will be, why USCIS cares about it if GREEN CARD holders/former asylees are not asylees anymore (according to your words).
And you know what, Why Am I even arguing with you here?
Everybody, just follow advise of TortFeasor and renew your passports. Then just post your adventures with USCIS at this board so others will learn.
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This guy looks like working for some type of secret police of one of the dictatorial regime, and trying to woo people back so that they can compile a list of people went back to show U.S. that no one is tortured and U.S. should stop granting asylum to their nationals. 
Lazerthegreat
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While I am not a part of this fight on this thread, however I do know for a fact that
"a simple INS officer does not have the authority or discretion to revoke LPR status, neither at the point of entry nor at citizenship interview."
They might ask you for going back to home country, they might scold you for renewing your passport but in the end you have due process rights in this country.
"a simple INS officer does not have the authority or discretion to revoke LPR status, neither at the point of entry nor at citizenship interview."
They might ask you for going back to home country, they might scold you for renewing your passport but in the end you have due process rights in this country.
Lazerthegreat said:
I never arguied about that part Lazer. the topic was about renewing the national pasaport after green card, if it's a good idea or not. And I'm not trying to fight with anybody either. Unfortunatly world in not without an as...es. I'm just expressing my opinion. I know couple of people who were asylees and on their citizenship interview been asked same questions about going back or renewing.
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ayyubov said:
Yes you are right.. There is no law, however renewing NP is a bad idea even after getting GC. And obviously govt. is concerned about if they take the trouble to ask about it. But again you have due process rights to handle whatever govt. is doing..
Asylee with NP
I have read and heard many people talking about renewing the NP as an asylee could lead you to trouble with the IO’s. the questions I have is this: does the foreigner consulate’s, embassies or attaches share that information with the IO’s? How and why would I tell them that I renew my NP if they don’t see me with it?
It does not make any sense, unless one decides to tell them, otherwise they will never know.
If I’m wrong please clarify this point better, because it does not make any sense at this stage.
I have read and heard many people talking about renewing the NP as an asylee could lead you to trouble with the IO’s. the questions I have is this: does the foreigner consulate’s, embassies or attaches share that information with the IO’s? How and why would I tell them that I renew my NP if they don’t see me with it?
It does not make any sense, unless one decides to tell them, otherwise they will never know.
If I’m wrong please clarify this point better, because it does not make any sense at this stage.
TortFeasor said:Comrade Ayyubov, you disappoint and hurt me! Did you say Talk to the hand? You are such a queen! I expected to be treated better like "Talk to the Politburo of the Communist Party" of your beloved Peoples Socialist Republic! Why do you have to humiliate me in public? Do not you know that I have suffered enough by being ignored and not loved? Why do you bring up all that bad memory? Why, Comrade, why? Is there anyone out there who will give me a hug
Let me clarify your errors by highlighting the following:
1. You did not even properly read what your alleged "professional" sources told you. Your quote from HIAS agrees with what I have discussed in my expose. It reads: "However, it is also important to know that a refugee does not automatically lose status by returning to the country of persecution. The Department of Homeland Security is supposed to examine any extraordinary reasons and special circumstances that may have prompted the voluntary return." Mind you this is just for an asylee/refugee and not even for one who has further adjusted his/her status to a LPR.
2. You said "Don't forget that even after getting a GC you are still [the-sic] asylee." Wrong! Failing to appreciate the distinction between the two statuses is a common mistake made by novices. After adjustment of status to LPR, your status is not an asylee! Hence, the reason we use the term "adjustment of status." I know appreciating the finer points and nuances of the law may be quite a challenge but try to follow when brighter minds discuss.
3. You said "So please do not mislead other people just because you've made a mistake doesn't mean that others have to do the same." I do not intend to mislead - I strive to bring logic and common sense. You thrive in confusion, creating panic and spreading groundless fear. I give fellow warriors legitimate tools and empower them to make reasoned choices. Comrade, please note that unlike in many of our "beloved" homelands, a simple INS officer does not have the authority or discretion to revoke LPR status, neither at the point of entry nor at citizenship interview. Again, I know this is tough for you to comprehend but that is how the rule of law functions.
In conclusion, please allow others to exercise a reasoned choice by considering the totality of the circumstances as stated in my expose. I do not want to repeat it here as it is self-explanatory. If for one reason or another, your Comradeship is having difficulty following the arguments there, I will be happy to get it specially translated into your native language (at my expense!). Just ask for help. As a person who gets ignored by others, I know how tough it is to ask for help, but try Comrade, try!
Cheerio
I absolutely agree with TortFeasor.