Place of Birth on US Passport

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ackeiyword

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Hi

How come the US passport bio page contains an item of "Place of Birth"? Is that required by law or not? Will this consititue discrimination against non-native born citizens?

Please kindly comment and advise.

Thank you.
 
It is required by Law and is a part of all Passports that I have seen from different countries in the world.
 
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ackeiyword said:
Hi

How come the US passport bio page contains an item of "Place of Birth"? Is that required by law or not? Will this consititue discrimination against non-native born citizens?

Please kindly comment and advise.

Thank you.
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Discrimination in what sense? Do you consider profiling discrimination?
 
ackeiyword said:
Hi

How come the US passport bio page contains an item of "Place of Birth"? Is that required by law or not? Will this consititue discrimination against non-native born citizens?

Please kindly comment and advise.

Thank you.
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yeah to discriminate you from running for the presidency. lol
 
xxhwx said:
yeah to discriminate you from running for the presidency. lol
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I know this is a 'lateral' thread, but seriously the place of birth can not be used to determine whether you can run for president. The requirement is natural born citizen. A natural born citizen might have been born anywhere as long as the parent(s) were USC and satisfied all rules which lead to the determination of the kids USC.
 
sanjoseaug20 said:
I know this is a 'lateral' thread, but seriously the place of birth can not be used to determine whether you can run for president. The requirement is natural born citizen. A natural born citizen might have been born anywhere as long as the parent(s) were USC and satisfied all rules which lead to the determination of the kids USC.
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Maybe, maybe not. "Natural born citizen" is not defined in the Constitution, nor has any court ruled on it. Theoretically, a court could rule that natural born citizens must be born on US soil, and citizens born abroad are granted citizenship at birth by an act of Congress, not "natural born" citizenship.
 
Jackolantern said:
Maybe, maybe not. "Natural born citizen" is not defined in the Constitution, nor has any court ruled on it. Theoretically, a court could rule that natural born citizens must be born on US soil, and citizens born abroad are granted citizenship at birth by an act of Congress, not "natural born" citizenship.
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Well, a court could rule any which way. It will probably depend on which century we are in (21st or 19th).
However, based on your current understanding of how things are ... can place of birth exclusively determine if someone can run for president or not? I say no.
 
sanjoseaug20 said:
Well, a court could rule any which way. It will probably depend on which century we are in (21st or 19th).
However, based on your current understanding of how things are ... can place of birth exclusively determine if someone can run for president or not? I say no.
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Then how do you explain the hard time people gave to Obama concerning his birth certificate? It would not matter at all whether he was born in Hawaii or in Kenya if the place of birth does not define the clause "natural born," because Mr. Obama's mother is a US citizen.
 
xxhwx said:
Then how do you explain the hard time people gave to Obama concerning his birth certificate? It would not matter at all whether he was born in Hawaii or in Kenya if the place of birth does not define the clause "natural born," because Mr. Obama's mother is a US citizen.
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If he was born outside the US, he would not be a born citizen because the laws back then required his mother to have lived 10 years in the US, including 5 years after her 14th birthday, but she was 3 months short of 19 when he was born so she was too young to satisfy the latter condition.
 
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Jackolantern, thanks for that explanation. I've always thought the whole "birther" theory absurd beyond words, but I hadn't realized that Obama's mother's age also played into this. It's interesting that in those days, a young US citizen mother couldn't pass on her citizenship if she gave birth outside the country. Would that still be true today?
 
It would be still true, but for a lower age. If only one parent is a US citizen, the current law requires the USC parent to have 5 years presence in the US, 2 of which are after the 14th birthday.
 
Yeah, I was going to say that people were discussing McCain's eligibility since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. It's all a crock of shit.
 
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