Philadelphia Regional DOL Tracker - Old (Archived on 09/23/2004)
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rsiv said:
Unlikely. Besides, this 'conspiracy theory' has a fundamental flaw - Since employment based GC's are much more likely to be employed when they are approved, it will actually improve the employment figures, not the other way round. By this theory, they should be getting more GCs out of the door quickly.
Time taken to get PD after LC application.
Hello all,
I am new to immigration forums.
My company recently(1.5 months back)applied for GC at Philadelphia Service Center.
How long will it take to get the Priority date notice from DOL.
Will it go to Employer or lawyer.
Thanks for your help
Hello all,
I am new to immigration forums.
My company recently(1.5 months back)applied for GC at Philadelphia Service Center.
How long will it take to get the Priority date notice from DOL.
Will it go to Employer or lawyer.
Thanks for your help
Is ther receipt?
Hello,
Does anyone know whether there is receipt from the fedear level for the labor certification? My labor was passed from local (VA) to the reginal (Phily) in the Apr, but haven't gotten any feedback yet, Is that normal? How can I check my status and whether they received it? Thanks.
Hello,
Does anyone know whether there is receipt from the fedear level for the labor certification? My labor was passed from local (VA) to the reginal (Phily) in the Apr, but haven't gotten any feedback yet, Is that normal? How can I check my status and whether they received it? Thanks.
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Pineapple,
You are correct in positve measurement direction, but unfortunately the labor dept takes two measuremtns, # of job increases and number of people registed under job loss or for unemployment benifit. The current gov is cautious about the other numbers. Once GCs are approved some portion of this set will register for unemployment benifits or some of these job losses will skew the stastics, this is a very closely monitored factor for this elections ..... I wish I can get more information here, but I believe that some thing like this happening inside ....
mb1,
we are not seeing approvals form other centers too ... there is no move any where in the past two months .....
What ever the theories are....
Please keep sending letters and suggest if you got any other ideas to escalate this problem .....
You are correct in positve measurement direction, but unfortunately the labor dept takes two measuremtns, # of job increases and number of people registed under job loss or for unemployment benifit. The current gov is cautious about the other numbers. Once GCs are approved some portion of this set will register for unemployment benifits or some of these job losses will skew the stastics, this is a very closely monitored factor for this elections ..... I wish I can get more information here, but I believe that some thing like this happening inside ....
mb1,
we are not seeing approvals form other centers too ... there is no move any where in the past two months .....
What ever the theories are....
Please keep sending letters and suggest if you got any other ideas to escalate this problem .....
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sotiredofwaiting
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mb1 said:
Well, for what it's worth, when the backlog reduction centers start working,
they will first concentrate on cases from Philly and Atlanta. Maybe our cases have already been transfered to the non-yet-existent centers?
[Humor alert!!!!] Thats what it is!!!!!....our cases are already in the Ryder trucks to be moved across Philly to the new backlog processing centers or maybe transferred to Iron Mountain for temporary storage before the centers begins operation in say...October!!!!....No wait...
.. then that will be a new budget year and everyone will have to be retrained for a month....No Wait..
..then it will be the election period and everyone will pause to see who wins as they must not do anything that might upset one prospective administration or the other....No wait..
... then that will be the Christmas and there will be a six week vacation period.....No wait..
... then the new Kerry-Edwards presidential administration will have begun to operate and issued a moratorium on all processing to get all of DOL and BCIS to work on helping all the illegals become citizens....No wait...
..Then my H1B will have expired and I will be headed to the airport screaming at the insanity of it all having spent $40,000 per year on my son's college education because he/we dont qualify for instate tuition or any of the grants, scholarships or financial aidOr maybe on a bright sunny summers day I should be more positive. Oh well off to watch the British GP and saee whether it's raining or not LOL!!
Stueym
News On PERM And Labor Cert Backlogs
DOL recently published its semi-annual regulatory agenda, a close reading of which suggests that big news may be in the pipeline on both PERM and the labor cert backlog reduction effort.
On the backlog reduction effort, which has already been funded to an unprecedented level by Congress, the language is straightforward
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
Interim Final Rule 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: No
We read this to mean that DOL will publish an interim final rule this month which would create two "backlog reduction centers" (a.k.a. DOL Service Centers) in Dallas and Philadelphia. This would lead to a significant reduction in labor cert processing times in the most backlogged states over the next 12-24 months, with a comcomitant change in labor cert strategy for many law firms (e.g. RIR may take even longer than traditional cases after the backlog has disappeared!). This would also mark a further diminishing of the SWAs' role in labor certs.
By contrast, the language on PERM is lengthier and more ambiguous
Anticipated Cost and Benefits: Preliminary estimates of the anticipated
costs and benefits have not been determined at this time. Preliminary
estimates will be developed after a decision is made as to what
regulatory amendments are necessary and after the implementing forms
and automated systems to support a streamlined permanent labor
certification process have been developed.
[ ... ]
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
NPRM 05/06/02 67 FR 30465
NPRM Comment Period End 07/05/02 67 FR 30466
Final Action 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: Undetermined
The contrast in the language between the backlog reduction effort and PERM is readily apparent. We read this to mean that DOL has hit roadblocks on its PERM plans, but will take some "Final Action" later this month. This could mean many things including that PERM needs to be republished as a proposed rule for another round of comments, or that DOL may publish an interim rule and fight it out in the courts. It is possible that DOJ/DHS have expressed concerns on possible fraud under PERM, or other objections from OMB or the employer community have stayed its hand somewhat. DOL is playing the cards pretty close to its chest, and it is possible that considerations of different constituencies within DOL may be at work.
Immigration Daily will keep you informed on developments on both the labor cert backlog reduction and PERM.
DOL recently published its semi-annual regulatory agenda, a close reading of which suggests that big news may be in the pipeline on both PERM and the labor cert backlog reduction effort.
On the backlog reduction effort, which has already been funded to an unprecedented level by Congress, the language is straightforward
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
Interim Final Rule 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: No
We read this to mean that DOL will publish an interim final rule this month which would create two "backlog reduction centers" (a.k.a. DOL Service Centers) in Dallas and Philadelphia. This would lead to a significant reduction in labor cert processing times in the most backlogged states over the next 12-24 months, with a comcomitant change in labor cert strategy for many law firms (e.g. RIR may take even longer than traditional cases after the backlog has disappeared!). This would also mark a further diminishing of the SWAs' role in labor certs.
By contrast, the language on PERM is lengthier and more ambiguous
Anticipated Cost and Benefits: Preliminary estimates of the anticipated
costs and benefits have not been determined at this time. Preliminary
estimates will be developed after a decision is made as to what
regulatory amendments are necessary and after the implementing forms
and automated systems to support a streamlined permanent labor
certification process have been developed.
[ ... ]
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
NPRM 05/06/02 67 FR 30465
NPRM Comment Period End 07/05/02 67 FR 30466
Final Action 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: Undetermined
The contrast in the language between the backlog reduction effort and PERM is readily apparent. We read this to mean that DOL has hit roadblocks on its PERM plans, but will take some "Final Action" later this month. This could mean many things including that PERM needs to be republished as a proposed rule for another round of comments, or that DOL may publish an interim rule and fight it out in the courts. It is possible that DOJ/DHS have expressed concerns on possible fraud under PERM, or other objections from OMB or the employer community have stayed its hand somewhat. DOL is playing the cards pretty close to its chest, and it is possible that considerations of different constituencies within DOL may be at work.
Immigration Daily will keep you informed on developments on both the labor cert backlog reduction and PERM.
This thread is not dying, just us are....
Yep, I don't come here very often anymore because, well, there is not much to do except waiting...
My case was sent to Philly in February and considering that most of you have been waiting longer than me, well, I am not expecting anything to happen in the next 6 months...
Which means, phase 1 would have taken me about 3 years...
It is very depressing when you are stucked with a company you don't really like.
Anyway, be patient.....
Good luck to all of you,
Tucxie
Yep, I don't come here very often anymore because, well, there is not much to do except waiting...
My case was sent to Philly in February and considering that most of you have been waiting longer than me, well, I am not expecting anything to happen in the next 6 months...
Which means, phase 1 would have taken me about 3 years...
It is very depressing when you are stucked with a company you don't really like.
Anyway, be patient.....
Good luck to all of you,
Tucxie
DOL Website updated.
This is too pathetic...
DOL Site has been updated and they are still processing Feb (NON-RIR) / Jul (RIR) cases.
http://www.ows.doleta.gov/foreign/times.asp
AwardMyGC.
This is too pathetic...
DOL Site has been updated and they are still processing Feb (NON-RIR) / Jul (RIR) cases.
http://www.ows.doleta.gov/foreign/times.asp
AwardMyGC.
Read it and weep...No really I mean it!
PHILLY DOL
RIR
Report Month DOLETA Website[/B}
Feb-02 30 Days 1 month
Mar-02 30 Days 1 month
Apr-02 30 Days 1 month
May-02 30 Days 1 month
Jun-02 30 Days 1 month
Jul-02 30 Days 1 month
Aug-02 Jun-02 2 months
Sep-02 Jun-02 3 months
Oct-02 Jul-02 3 months
Nov-02 Aug-02 3 months
Dec-02 Aug-02 4 months
Jan-03 Aug-02 5 months
Feb-03 Sep-02 5 months
Mar-03 Sep-02 6 months
Apr-03 Sep-02 7 months
May-03 Mar-03 2 months
Jun-03 Mar-03 3 months
Jul-03 Mar-03 4 months
Aug-03 May-03 3 months
Sep-03 Jul-03 2 months
Oct-03 Jul-03 3 months
Nov-03 Jun-03 5 months
Dec-03 Jun-03 6 months
Jan-04 Jun-03 7 months
Feb-04 Jun-03 8 months
Mar-04 Jun-03 9 months
Apr-04 Jun-03 10 months
May-04 Jul-03 10 months
Jun-04 Jul-03 11 months
Jul-04 Jul-03 12 months
They should be ashamed of themselves. No progress reported on RIR in 9 months.
PHILLY DOL
RIR
Report Month DOLETA Website[/B}
Feb-02 30 Days 1 month
Mar-02 30 Days 1 month
Apr-02 30 Days 1 month
May-02 30 Days 1 month
Jun-02 30 Days 1 month
Jul-02 30 Days 1 month
Aug-02 Jun-02 2 months
Sep-02 Jun-02 3 months
Oct-02 Jul-02 3 months
Nov-02 Aug-02 3 months
Dec-02 Aug-02 4 months
Jan-03 Aug-02 5 months
Feb-03 Sep-02 5 months
Mar-03 Sep-02 6 months
Apr-03 Sep-02 7 months
May-03 Mar-03 2 months
Jun-03 Mar-03 3 months
Jul-03 Mar-03 4 months
Aug-03 May-03 3 months
Sep-03 Jul-03 2 months
Oct-03 Jul-03 3 months
Nov-03 Jun-03 5 months
Dec-03 Jun-03 6 months
Jan-04 Jun-03 7 months
Feb-04 Jun-03 8 months
Mar-04 Jun-03 9 months
Apr-04 Jun-03 10 months
May-04 Jul-03 10 months
Jun-04 Jul-03 11 months
Jul-04 Jul-03 12 months
They should be ashamed of themselves. No progress reported on RIR in 9 months.
Stueym, The statistics you posted are very very useful... Thanks a lot!
Is it possible to get similar statistics for other DOls like Atlanta etc? That was we can check if there is a general slowdown across all DOLs or is this limited only to Philly.
Something sure is fishy at DOL.
Is it possible to get similar statistics for other DOls like Atlanta etc? That was we can check if there is a general slowdown across all DOLs or is this limited only to Philly.
Something sure is fishy at DOL.
I guess they are "working really hard" (ha-ha) to organize that backlog reduction center (see http://www.murthy.com/news/n_ombrev.html).
Seriously though, it just another proof of the rule: when there are no mechanisms of public control or the public lacks interest to the beuracratic machine it gets out of hand and does whatever it wants.
I am from Russia and observed the beuracracy's inefficiency up close over there for many years.
Human nature is the same anywhere in the world: if you can get away with not doing your job and still get paid you probably will not do your job. So they do and always will, until there is some stimulus, either positive (rewards for more applications processed), or negative (punishments for not meeting deadlines or performance tolerances), or both.
Plus, in general it's very covenient for this country to have such workers bound to their employers like slaves or serfs who pay taxes and social security but don't have rights for any benefits, whose wives are not allowed to work for all these years or even get a driver's license, who can be kicked out any moment if they get laid off and so on.
They'd rather give green cards to illegal Mexicans than to us! See Kerry's last speeches and democrat's "comprehensive immigration reform" SOLVE act. It suggests to give a gc to any ILLEGAL who has been here for more than 5 years and paid taxes for more than 2 years, but it doesn't even mention LEGALS, us, stuck in the DOL/USCIS process, legally working here sometimes much longer than that and who has paid much more in taxes than those poor illegal wetbacks!
Seriously though, it just another proof of the rule: when there are no mechanisms of public control or the public lacks interest to the beuracratic machine it gets out of hand and does whatever it wants.
I am from Russia and observed the beuracracy's inefficiency up close over there for many years.
Human nature is the same anywhere in the world: if you can get away with not doing your job and still get paid you probably will not do your job. So they do and always will, until there is some stimulus, either positive (rewards for more applications processed), or negative (punishments for not meeting deadlines or performance tolerances), or both.
Plus, in general it's very covenient for this country to have such workers bound to their employers like slaves or serfs who pay taxes and social security but don't have rights for any benefits, whose wives are not allowed to work for all these years or even get a driver's license, who can be kicked out any moment if they get laid off and so on.
They'd rather give green cards to illegal Mexicans than to us! See Kerry's last speeches and democrat's "comprehensive immigration reform" SOLVE act. It suggests to give a gc to any ILLEGAL who has been here for more than 5 years and paid taxes for more than 2 years, but it doesn't even mention LEGALS, us, stuck in the DOL/USCIS process, legally working here sometimes much longer than that and who has paid much more in taxes than those poor illegal wetbacks!
create an e-mail storm
No progress in one year, nothing more worst can happened to us than this
Let us create an e-mail storm, flood dol with e-mails. Please post any dol e-mail addresses you know.
Here are two such address
LCAHelp@doleta.gov
LCAFAX@doleta.gov
I am going to send daily e-mails to these addresses, please post if you know more e-mail addresses.
No progress in one year, nothing more worst can happened to us than this
Let us create an e-mail storm, flood dol with e-mails. Please post any dol e-mail addresses you know.
Here are two such address
LCAHelp@doleta.gov
LCAFAX@doleta.gov
I am going to send daily e-mails to these addresses, please post if you know more e-mail addresses.
Okay guys here's the scoop. I created this data by <manually> scanning the LC archives on immigration.com. They can be found at
http://www.immigration.com/processing-times/dolarchives.html
All the centers info is reported so you could create a similar analysis of the other centers too.
I created an excel table for the month reported, month processing and calculated a daily difference (crude based on 1st of each month) and divided by 365 and multiplied by 12.
For Philly folks attached is excel spreadsheet with the RIR and Non-RIR data.
AwardmyGC....Start weeping cos it aint a pretty sight!!!!!
Hope this has been helpful as a statistical excercise to educate a wider group of folks how screwed over we are by a failing system that nobody wants to take responsibility for.
BTW I am October 16, 2003 date and extremely frustrated to see the backlog push me further and further away.
Oh well...off for dinner time then
Stueym
http://www.immigration.com/processing-times/dolarchives.html
All the centers info is reported so you could create a similar analysis of the other centers too.
I created an excel table for the month reported, month processing and calculated a daily difference (crude based on 1st of each month) and divided by 365 and multiplied by 12.
For Philly folks attached is excel spreadsheet with the RIR and Non-RIR data.
AwardmyGC....Start weeping cos it aint a pretty sight!!!!!
Hope this has been helpful as a statistical excercise to educate a wider group of folks how screwed over we are by a failing system that nobody wants to take responsibility for.
BTW I am October 16, 2003 date and extremely frustrated to see the backlog push me further and further away.
Oh well...off for dinner time then
Stueym
gc_aspirant2003
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LC denied for NOF case
Hi All
I've been a silent observer of this forum since I applied my Labor. My company is Head Quartered in NJ and has applied for my labor from Phily. I got an NOF on my application. After that my company has set up a full fledged office in Phily. They also started processing my payroll from Phily office. Then they responded to the NOF. I just learnt from the AVM that my labor has been denied.
Now I don't know what to do. I'm already in my fifth year and my time is running out.
I'd appreciate if anyone advise me what to do next.
Hi All
I've been a silent observer of this forum since I applied my Labor. My company is Head Quartered in NJ and has applied for my labor from Phily. I got an NOF on my application. After that my company has set up a full fledged office in Phily. They also started processing my payroll from Phily office. Then they responded to the NOF. I just learnt from the AVM that my labor has been denied.
Now I don't know what to do. I'm already in my fifth year and my time is running out.
I'd appreciate if anyone advise me what to do next.
Dc Certification
On agust 2003 my lawyer received a letter fron DOL because they need to change the wage, so they can give us the instrucctions for the advs. It has been 11 month fron the day we answer and we have not here from them.
Does any one know if this is normal.
Please I need someone to tell me something
On agust 2003 my lawyer received a letter fron DOL because they need to change the wage, so they can give us the instrucctions for the advs. It has been 11 month fron the day we answer and we have not here from them.
Does any one know if this is normal.
Please I need someone to tell me something
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