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Friend's LC certified

One of my friend has got his LC. The following are the details that I could get from him. Just wanted to update the forum. Could someone put the information in the tracker.

State - PA
Category - EB3(do not know if it is Regular/RIR)
PD - 01/22/2004
RD - 12/22/2005
45 day letter - Unknown

Thanks.
GCVaruma.
 
StressTestInUSA said:
Well said...We shud remember that 1 day after this Labor shit is cleared off our head, we will fall into the retrogression pit...Sooner or later we will come out of this PBEC.. I know we are frustrated with the process, but when each state cud not handle their own cases, its not possible to clear in a jiffy all states under 1 roof...I am sure it must be warehouse with those files...
Its all our bad luck we have fallen into this pit...which we will comeout eventually...

Bottomline we need to support iv.org, similar efforts were done before for extn of H1 after 6yrs by the same person.....our next connecting flight is 140..then 485..they r trying to do something for themselves which will be useful to us....

Pleae come out of the thinking why to worry about dinner when lunch is not ready...? just support them and boost their confidence and lets not try to pull them down...
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Hi All

The iv.org is going in thre right direction I believe. Guys please remember this. The broader perspective of this effort is to win recapture of Expire Visa numbers. This is very very imporatnt.

For EB3 to move beyond Apr 2001 is a big problem as they have about 300,000 to 400,000 case i245 struck around that date. Possibility is that most of the cases filed must have been closed as well. But we will be out of PBEC in a yeras time. after that we have to face the Visa date. Currently it is moving 6 months for each Bulletin. Not sure how this will move after these 2 Hurdles on the way

First Hurdle - i245 - Apr 2001

Second - when it reaches 2003/2004 - e might have lot pending cases of USCIS filed earlier ( Old Buddy waiting in Line for us to Join + All PERM cases).
Queue is going to be a Long one

Our hope of getting GC will happen only when the Visa dates become current for EB3/EB2.

So we need someone like IV.ORG. They have hired a strategist for this ( which ofocurse will cost money. See in this Country to become Governor/President is not automatic. It need a Team and strategist like Karl)

If few Volunteers come together and go and meet or Sending Faxes to Senators wonlt help in a big way as we have learned in the past.

Making PBEC to work is also another Objective as they have added that to attarct guys struck here for Contribution ( evntually they will join Visa retrogession as well)

Can we today invite any Senator/Press to come see this forum to understand our plight. NO . But if you invite anyone to thier web site it gives a claer picture and show the No of people behind that ( which is what press/senators want - Nos count there for them)

So in all earnest thinking I feel we should support that
 
My apologies for Typos and spelling mistakes in my earlier post.

We have to work at Office and still need to worry about PBEC and all these things

All tiredness of PBEC and Visa dates make we work like a Fool
 
Another Random PA approval Jan 2004

Another Random PA approval Jan 2004 .

May be PBEC want to catch up with DBEC ( DBEC approving now 2004 cases)

MSG from GCVARUMA

Friend's LC certified



One of my friend has got his LC. The following are the details that I could get from him. Just wanted to update the forum. Could someone put the information in the tracker.

State - PA
Category - EB3(do not know if it is Regular/RIR)
PD - 01/22/2004
RD - 12/22/2005
45 day letter - Unknown

Thanks.
GCVaruma.
 
StressTestInUSA said:
Saknia :

Any idea when EB3 will get close to current..??

I read from oh-law that the April2001 i245 cases will be in EB3 category...
In that case EB3 will come to a halt at Aprl 2001..

My case is I got a 45 day letter PD Dec 05 2002/EB3..that junky paralegal put us in EB3 when I was eligible for EB2..I had least knowledge about EB2/3 then...
Anyway, that company is taken over by another new company. Now that guy wants me to join him, just recently a month ago changed to a new employer with 4k to change extend H1 stuff...

I almost gaveup hope on this PD, cos the new owners r Americans and they dont know about the ordeal with GC..and they need to give tax retruns etc while 140 stage..if they have to file for my GC when I am not employed with them..which is very doubtful case...

What do I do now..? when wud this PD become current...any ideas..u think 2 yrs..? any guesses...

I think many people with PDs 2001 and 2002 and EB3 r stuck..so the wait will be long I presume... I was planning to file thru PERM thru this new company, of course with PD 2006, the tragic part..


Anyone who understands my story....please suggest...
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Hi STresstestUSA

Since you are in Dec 2002 it might take another 6 months to reach that period going with current speed

God know when it will be Current

I think we might get struck with Apr 2001 soon. But I am also hoping that Visa capture will make that to move beyond that. In another 3 months it will reach Apr 2001 . Then June 2006 to July 2006 it might stay in Apr 2001 .

But Before that if IV.org succeed in Mar 2006 we might have some relief. Some one said also that PBEC has closed lot of i245 cases with 45 day letter

People always compalin about 45 days letter ( calling it stupid letter). But it too has some advantages. When they donlt get feedback it is closed and the Number reduces. This is the number that get used for Visa Dates I think
 
Thanks for your advice

I didn't say iv.org is not doing enough. May be they are doing more than enough. I appreciate their effort as well as all the members of this forum. You are very helpful providing information and sharing pain. But I am sooooooooooo frustrated and hopeless that I feel nothing will help us to get rid of this endless pain. Even if we get our LC approved we cannot apply for I-485. Look at the February visa bulletin. It moved from April 1st to April 22nd for EB3 cat.

GC_Lover said:
Maybe you are right, maybe immigrationvoice.org is not doing enough, may PBEC would not listen to anybody's voice. But at the end of the day you have to reply to you own voice...what did you do about it? At that time atleast you can say I tried to do whatever I can to make this thing work. I tried to send so many letters and faxes, I tried to support yahoo groups on retrogession and now I am supporting immigrationvoice.org. There are very good chances that none of this would work but atleast you will feel good about yourself.
You cannot change and control what is going to happen next, whatever is going to happen with happen eventually. But atleast you can try to make a difference by supporting few people who are putting so much effort for us.
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I completely agree with you

saknia said:
Please every Guy here should send atleast$50.00 to Immigrationvoice immediately

What is at Stake

Even if they don't do anything and use the funds for seomthing, it does not hurt us. Think you have send $50.00 to ana attorny for checking your status of Fedex

It cost mone to keep a Website or get valubale information

Just for seomone to summarize all our agonies ( which they have done already ) is a Great Job and the amount they have collected so far is worth that
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We all should (I already did) contribute whatever we can.

United We Stand
 
Confused now please help with ur suggestions.

Friends need your advice.
Company A filed GC on june 2001 and there was no response for 4 years.So i decided to leave company A and join company B.
Company A's Labor got approoved on Novemeber.Iam not in contact with company A got the information from the Lawyer.

Question i have.
Company A has only one consultant.
Company A's name is changed Now .
If i decide to go back and file 141 with company A will there be any issue in approoving?

Company B is very good taking care of every thing filed GC on 2004.They are really taking care.Iam having peace of Mind now.

Friends please advice is it a good idea to talk to A and see or wait for B's Labor...


Note
A is an American company and B is an Indian company :)

Thanks friends for all your valuebale suggestions.
 
If you are close to your H1 expiry, file for perm. I-140 queues are getting bigger. So for your own safety do the needful.

Watch for climbing out of April 2001 hole for EB-3 dates.

If it comes out by next 2-3 months there may be chance it can reach dec 2002 by end of this year as 2001 - 2002 were layoff years. Again you mentioned the old PD labor has issues of I-140 documents so you may be best judge. Usually you should be working with company before I-140 is filed and pay stubs from filing compnay would be needed.

Don't loose hope. Something will change. Market is getting better. Suddenly companies need more employees.

Good Luck



StressTestInUSA said:
Saknia :

Any idea when EB3 will get close to current..??

I read from oh-law that the April2001 i245 cases will be in EB3 category...
In that case EB3 will come to a halt at Aprl 2001..

My case is I got a 45 day letter PD Dec 05 2002/EB3..that junky paralegal put us in EB3 when I was eligible for EB2..I had least knowledge about EB2/3 then...
Anyway, that company is taken over by another new company. Now that guy wants me to join him, just recently a month ago changed to a new employer with 4k to change extend H1 stuff...

I almost gaveup hope on this PD, cos the new owners r Americans and they dont know about the ordeal with GC..and they need to give tax retruns etc while 140 stage..if they have to file for my GC when I am not employed with them..which is very doubtful case...

What do I do now..? when wud this PD become current...any ideas..u think 2 yrs..? any guesses...

I think many people with PDs 2001 and 2002 and EB3 r stuck..so the wait will be long I presume... I was planning to file thru PERM thru this new company, of course with PD 2006, the tragic part..


Anyone who understands my story....please suggest...
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a_yas said:
Friends need your advice.
Company A filed GC on june 2001 and there was no response for 4 years.So i decided to leave company A and join company B.
Company A's Labor got approoved on Novemeber.Iam not in contact with company A got the information from the Lawyer.

Question i have.
Company A has only one consultant.
Company A's name is changed Now .
If i decide to go back and file 141 with company A will there be any issue in approoving?

Company B is very good taking care of every thing filed GC on 2004.They are really taking care.Iam having peace of Mind now.

Friends please advice is it a good idea to talk to A and see or wait for B's Labor...


Note
A is an American company and B is an Indian company :)

Thanks friends for all your valuebale suggestions.
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Talk to Company A first for this

1)First find out whether they have this LC still for you or used that for any one else
2)Can they file I140 and after that file 485 for you ( under future employment)

3) you can promise them that you will work after EAD stage for them for 6 months ( to give then some return for the trouble they are taking)

If they agree then next question will come - How the company will prove ability to Pay

1) Since you are not in thier Pay roll they cannot say they alredy paying you the Prevailing wage agreed for GC

2) Since you say they have only one Consultant their revenue must be low. Unless they have have funds in Bank ( like say $50,000 plus) to prove thier ability to Pay it will be difficult. Check with them on this as well

You have not mentioned EB3/EB2 for the LC's. That has lot of bearing on the decision Because June 2001 EB3 & June 2004 EB2 could have much impact on Dates ( going by Visa dates Gap)

Finally check with an Attoirney on this - If you proceed with Company A LC without joining and if it did not go through how it will affect if you file another one from Company B baseds on 2004 Labor

If that is possible try with Company A . It might be worth it
 
Feel like banging my head against a wall

Nohope,

I mentioned two really good measures in my 12 point post re: the backlog relief measures proposed by www.immigrationvoice.org.

1. Extend H1s to 3 year steps instead of 1 year for people stuck in the backlog elimination centers. This is an incredibly practical step that you will realize the value of later. I am on my 8th year. Trust me, you don't want to be in that position.

2. Charge $500 from every new H1B for 2 years to raise $85 million and employ 200 additional contractors in each BEC. DOL will never charge extra fees on the existing applications. This is a time-tested tactic by USCIS that we will use for our own purposes.

In addition, we probably need to fight for a measure that moves 245(i) applicants to the back of the line, or get their own queue.

As Saknia said, if you don't do anything to benefit yourself, no one will.

I am incredibly frustrated that not one person in the labor cert backlog elimination forums has made one comment regarding these proposals.

:mad:

nohope_for_lc said:
I didn't say iv.org is not doing enough. May be they are doing more than enough. I appreciate their effort as well as all the members of this forum. You are very helpful providing information and sharing pain. But I am sooooooooooo frustrated and hopeless that I feel nothing will help us to get rid of this endless pain. Even if we get our LC approved we cannot apply for I-485. Look at the February visa bulletin. It moved from April 1st to April 22nd for EB3 cat.
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245i applicants

regarding the question whether the people who filed in April/2001 under the 245I provision would compete with us or not for visa numbers and labor approvals.

I did some research on schusterman.com and murphy.com, and from what I gathered, the category they fall under depends on how skilled they are to fulfill the positions they're applying for, just like we do. Unskilled workers (less than 2 years experience) fall under the Other Workers subcategory within EB3, and there's a limit of 10,000 visas per year for that subcategory.

The 245I provision was an open door for people who were here illegally or had overstayed their visas ... such people didn't come on H visas, they came to be housekeepers, farmers, cooks, etc, so I'd assume most of them ended up classified as unskilled workers and therefore will be subject to the 10,000 limit.

In terms of labor approvals, I bet the majority of them had cleared their labor applications when the BECs were established. I remember NY SWA was processing october or november/2001, NJ was in 2002, and so on. I don't remember where CA was at the time, but the bottomline is that they must be out of BECs at this point.
 
stucklabor said:
Nohope,

I mentioned two really good measures in my 12 point post re: the backlog relief measures proposed by www.immigrationvoice.org.

1. Extend H1s to 3 year steps instead of 1 year for people stuck in the backlog elimination centers. This is an incredibly practical step that you will realize the value of later. I am on my 8th year. Trust me, you don't want to be in that position.

2. Charge $500 from every new H1B for 2 years to raise $85 million and employ 200 additional contractors in each BEC. DOL will never charge extra fees on the existing applications. This is a time-tested tactic by USCIS that we will use for our own purposes.

In addition, we probably need to fight for a measure that moves 245(i) applicants to the back of the line, or get their own queue.

As Saknia said, if you don't do anything to benefit yourself, no one will.

I am incredibly frustrated that not one person in the labor cert backlog elimination forums has made one comment regarding these proposals.

:mad:
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I fully agree with measure 1 . A one year increment starts and ends with filling forms . Lawyers love it as they can charge more and more.
A 3 year limit is a decent one and is similar what an approved I-140 provides.

measure 2 may not hold much as DOL has approved budget for BEC for some period of time and till that nears expiry noone would put in extra money specifically for BECs.
Still nothing costs in listing it there
 
PBEC Vs. Visa No.

I am surprised that everyone is only worried about the EB3 retrogression and not about the crazy way the LC applications are being handled at PBEC. The priority now should be the LC and not EB no. retrogression.
 
To Perm or Not to Perm

Hey Guys,

Have been reading this forum in a while now. Very helpful. It is always nice to meet people in similar situation. Anyways, my attorney was suggesting me to consider perm as an option. He is saying I can keep my old application along with the new one. Its been 3.5 years for me (July 2002, VA). Is it worth blowing another $3K on this venture? Since I am from a non-retro country and have a master (EB2), it seems like I have nothing to lose but $$. Am I missing anything in this picture?

Good luck for all.
 
stucklabor said:
Nohope,

I mentioned two really good measures in my 12 point post re: the backlog relief measures proposed by www.immigrationvoice.org.

1. Extend H1s to 3 year steps instead of 1 year for people stuck in the backlog elimination centers. This is an incredibly practical step that you will realize the value of later. I am on my 8th year. Trust me, you don't want to be in that position.

2. Charge $500 from every new H1B for 2 years to raise $85 million and employ 200 additional contractors in each BEC. DOL will never charge extra fees on the existing applications. This is a time-tested tactic by USCIS that we will use for our own purposes.

In addition, we probably need to fight for a measure that moves 245(i) applicants to the back of the line, or get their own queue.

As Saknia said, if you don't do anything to benefit yourself, no one will.

I am incredibly frustrated that not one person in the labor cert backlog elimination forums has made one comment regarding these proposals.

:mad:
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I understand the frustration...I spent last month 4k for premium processing h1 transfer/extension..fortunately for 1 and half yr cos i filed exactly before 6 months of expiry of old h1 + 1 yr new h1 trnsfr...
Still need to come out of that financial jolt....

I know this PBEC is killing us, but our misery dosent end here....just venting out in the forum will not help any no.of years...

Anything is 'law and rule' in USA..it needs to be decided in the capitol hill..i

If we see numberusa and fair.org we will know how hard our struggle will be...trust me...we pay fines/finace charges only running into hundreds of $$....I dont mean to say contribute in hundreds etc....but it will be just a drop in the ocean for our own benefit...

If Feb2006 which is allotted for immigration reform and we dont act now and still debate about supporting iv.org or no... dont know waht to say..
 
altug said:
Hey Guys,

Have been reading this forum in a while now. Very helpful. It is always nice to meet people in similar situation. Anyways, my attorney was suggesting me to consider perm as an option. He is saying I can keep my old application along with the new one. Its been 3.5 years for me (July 2002, VA). Is it worth blowing another $3K on this venture? Since I am from a non-retro country and have a master (EB2), it seems like I have nothing to lose but $$. Am I missing anything in this picture?

Good luck for all.
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well, I guess it depends on how secure you feel at your job and your employer ... and also how far into the 6th year limit you are.

I think your labor should clear in less than 6 months, but who knows. I would gladly blow 3K to have my labor cleared, and extend my H1B for 3 years ... problem is, my employer doesn't wanna do the extra work necessary for PERM, so that's not an option for me.

I think you're in a good position either way, really.
 
cantstandit said:
regarding the question whether the people who filed in April/2001 under the 245I provision would compete with us or not for visa numbers and labor approvals.

I did some research on schusterman.com and murphy.com, and from what I gathered, the category they fall under depends on how skilled they are to fulfill the positions they're applying for, just like we do. Unskilled workers (less than 2 years experience) fall under the Other Workers subcategory within EB3, and there's a limit of 10,000 visas per year for that subcategory.

The 245I provision was an open door for people who were here illegally or had overstayed their visas ... such people didn't come on H visas, they came to be housekeepers, farmers, cooks, etc, so I'd assume most of them ended up classified as unskilled workers and therefore will be subject to the 10,000 limit.

In terms of labor approvals, I bet the majority of them had cleared their labor applications when the BECs were established. I remember NY SWA was processing october or november/2001, NJ was in 2002, and so on. I don't remember where CA was at the time, but the bottomline is that they must be out of BECs at this point.
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cantstandit :

thanks for the research...

Hope we all dont again have to again sky jump over April 2001..gazing at the visa bulletins..as it is we waited like hell when they got stuck at DOL at April 2001...

Any more related info about this 245i cases eating up what visas..please keep us updated...like I said, coming out of PBEC is not the end of our problems..
 
talktome said:
Hi Guys,

This morning I sent a request to Philadelphia Backlog Elimination Center for my case status at H1B7YR@PHI.DLFC.US.

I got a response back by afternoon. Atleast I know my case is there as I am in the 6th year of H1B and will have to file 7th year extension by May 2006. My H1B 6th year expires in Nov 2006.

The information I got:

ETA Case Number: T-05154-xxxxx
Processing Type: RIR
Employer Name: XXX
Alien Name: XXX
PD: 02/04/2004
Processing Center: Philadelphia Backlog Elimination Center

Can someone please provide an analysis on my case, lets say when can I expect to see some results?

Thanks
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Talktome, keep checking your screenshot every month or so, when it changes from T to P, your letter has been generated. They are not following any order to generate letters, it depends on which boxes are being opened.

In terms of results, a total guesstimate for you: 18 to 24 months from now to clear.

With a PD in 2004, why don't you file PERM !? it's a waste of time to get stuck at the BEC with a PD of 2004 or 2005, IMHO.
 
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