Philadelphia Backlog Elimination Center Tracking

Please provide suggestions/feedback

My company has changed lawyers since replying to the 45 day letter, and I am not sure if PBEC was ever informed of the change in lawyer or not, cos our HR personnel has been changed as well.
I have seen a few postings about atlanta cases and 2003 cases here, and if my case has been aproved there wont be anyway for me to find out cos the previous lawyer may or maynot inform us.
What do you guys suggest is the best way to inquire about the status of my labor from PBEC?
Does calling them have any negative consequences? What do you guys suggest I do to check on the status of my case?
Thanks,
frog
 
Wheels of PBEC Engine has strated Grinding

Hi All

The wheels of PBEC Engine has started moving atlats eevnthough very slowly. See the approvals between 11/13/2005 to 12/21/2005

Total Approvals for this period - 20 Cases
( Not Bad though)

Date Known Name State Categ Categ PD
11/3/2005 srawal MD EB3 RIR Jan-02
11/4/2005 whathehec MD EB3 RIR Feb-02
11/7/2005 GCDC VA EB3 Apr-02
11/14/2005 RC10580 NY Nov-01
11/15/2005 Rajel NY Oct-01
11/28/2005 icici MD EB2 RIR Jul-01
11/28/2005 Unknown MD Aug-01
11/30/2005 Juanito NY RIR Jan-02
11/30/2005 VK2003 VA EB2 RIR Mar-02
12/1/2005 Unknown MD RIR Feb-02
12/5/2005 gcislife NY EB3 RIR Jun-02
12/6/2005 Unknown VA Feb-02
12/7/2005 garp MD Dec-01
12/12/2005 Unknown CA RIR Oct-02
12/12/2005 Unknown Harrisburgh Nov-03
12/16/2005 Unknown NY EB3 RIR Jan-02
12/17/2005 smallriver MD RIR Oct-01
12/18/2005 jj71 NY RIR Feb-02
12/19/2005 waiting_laborFL Oct-03
12/21/2005 CGUBI NY Nov-01
 
Another labor approval from NY. Not mine.

My labor also got approved after 3+ years just yesterday. PD 02/2002 EB3 RIR. My lawyer says we are now applying for I140 but have to wait for I485 until the cutoff date, which is currently Jun 1999, becomes current with my PD. She says there is some chance that the bill gets passed by congress, which counts VISA nos differently so we get more VISA nos.
Basically, I find myself in the trap as was during labor, although a little relief now that labor is approved. Anybody knows where to track the bill pending for congress approval ?



saknia said:
Hi All

The wheels of PBEC Engine has started moving atlats eevnthough very slowly. See the approvals between 11/13/2005 to 12/21/2005

Total Approvals for this period - 20 Cases
( Not Bad though)

Date Known Name State Categ Categ PD
11/3/2005 srawal MD EB3 RIR Jan-02
11/4/2005 whathehec MD EB3 RIR Feb-02
11/7/2005 GCDC VA EB3 Apr-02
11/14/2005 RC10580 NY Nov-01
11/15/2005 Rajel NY Oct-01
11/28/2005 icici MD EB2 RIR Jul-01
11/28/2005 Unknown MD Aug-01
11/30/2005 Juanito NY RIR Jan-02
11/30/2005 VK2003 VA EB2 RIR Mar-02
12/1/2005 Unknown MD RIR Feb-02
12/5/2005 gcislife NY EB3 RIR Jun-02
12/6/2005 Unknown VA Feb-02
12/7/2005 garp MD Dec-01
12/12/2005 Unknown CA RIR Oct-02
12/12/2005 Unknown Harrisburgh Nov-03
12/16/2005 Unknown NY EB3 RIR Jan-02
12/17/2005 smallriver MD RIR Oct-01
12/18/2005 jj71 NY RIR Feb-02
12/19/2005 waiting_laborFL Oct-03
12/21/2005 CGUBI NY Nov-01
 
You HR should have control over your Labor application..meaning they should have done the paperwork so that PBEC starts communicating to the new attorney.Your labor application belongs to your company and not to the attorney.Make sure you get an official coomunication from your company explaning that this has happened.If they hesitate talking about that or if you think they are not trustworthy...start looking for a new employer who would file you a PERM app.

I have heard stories about poor attorney-employer comminucation affecting people's immigration process.

eefrog said:
My company has changed lawyers since replying to the 45 day letter, and I am not sure if PBEC was ever informed of the change in lawyer or not, cos our HR personnel has been changed as well.
I have seen a few postings about atlanta cases and 2003 cases here, and if my case has been aproved there wont be anyway for me to find out cos the previous lawyer may or maynot inform us.
What do you guys suggest is the best way to inquire about the status of my labor from PBEC?
Does calling them have any negative consequences? What do you guys suggest I do to check on the status of my case?
Thanks,
frog
 
Thanks GCTitan

Thanks for your suggestion.
To Sara,
congratulation on your approval and I am sorry for your dis-interest. The bill that you are talking about has been long passed w/o any immigration provisions.
BTW, thanks for all you help (of course I am being sarcastic).
frog
 
NY Approval again Feb 2002 EB3 RIR

MSG from AKHAND ( NY Tracker)

PD 02/2002 EB3 RIR.

NYC RIR applied - Aug 3, 2001
Transferred to Regional - March 10, 2003 per e-mail from lawyer:
 
Come on man. This labor approval wasn't mine. I had mentioned it in the title. I am just trying to gather information from different forums and put it here, because people are more active here and my labor is also stuck in PBEC.



eefrog said:
Thanks for your suggestion.
To Sara,
congratulation on your approval and I am sorry for your dis-interest. The bill that you are talking about has been long passed w/o any immigration provisions.
BTW, thanks for all you help (of course I am being sarcastic).
frog
 
No Philly, PA approval

11/3/2005 srawal MD EB3 RIR Jan-02
11/4/2005 whathehec MD EB3 RIR Feb-02
11/7/2005 GCDC VA EB3 Apr-02
11/14/2005 RC10580 NY Nov-01
11/15/2005 Rajel NY Oct-01
11/28/2005 icici MD EB2 RIR Jul-01
11/28/2005 Unknown MD Aug-01
11/30/2005 Juanito NY RIR Jan-02
11/30/2005 VK2003 VA EB2 RIR Mar-02
12/1/2005 Unknown MD RIR Feb-02
12/5/2005 gcislife NY EB3 RIR Jun-02
12/6/2005 Unknown VA Feb-02
12/7/2005 garp MD Dec-01
12/12/2005 Unknown CA RIR Oct-02
12/12/2005 Unknown Harrisburgh Nov-03
12/16/2005 Unknown NY EB3 RIR Jan-02
12/17/2005 smallriver MD RIR Oct-01
12/18/2005 jj71 NY RIR Feb-02
12/19/2005 waiting_laborFL Oct-03
12/21/2005 CGUBI NY Nov-01

Thanks for posting all this info... I don't see any Philly, pA approval?? Do we know if anything is coming out for such cases...thanks
 
PBEC Tracker - Nov & Dec 2005

The wheels of PBEC Engine has started moving atlast (eventhough very slowly). See the approvals between 11/13/2005 to 12/21/2005

Total Approvals for this period - 20 Cases
( Not Bad though)

Date Known Name State Categ Categ PD
11/3/2005 srawal MD EB3 RIR Jan-02
11/4/2005 whathehec MD EB3 RIR Feb-02
11/7/2005 GCDC VA EB3 Apr-02
11/14/2005 RC10580 NY Nov-01
11/15/2005 Rajel NY Oct-01
11/28/2005 icici MD EB2 RIR Jul-01
11/28/2005 Unknown MD Aug-01
11/30/2005 Juanito NY RIR Jan-02
11/30/2005 VK2003 VA EB2 RIR Mar-02
12/1/2005 Unknown MD RIR Feb-02
12/5/2005 gcislife NY EB3 RIR Jun-02
12/6/2005 Unknown VA Feb-02
12/7/2005 garp MD Dec-01
12/12/2005 Unknown CA RIR Oct-02
12/12/2005 Unknown Harrisburgh Nov-03
12/16/2005 Unknown NY EB3 RIR Jan-02
12/17/2005 smallriver MD RIR Oct-01
12/18/2005 jj71 NY RIR Feb-02
12/19/2005 waiting_laborFL Oct-03
12/21/2005 CGUBI NY Nov-01
 
Yes there has been approvals from CA.
Go to the BEC tracker and download the xls sheet maintained by JustWaiting.

crammm said:
Can somebody please tell me if there have been approvals from Philly for CA? Thanks
 
I like this part from http://pubweb.fdbl.com/news1.nsf/9a...3f1fbb721bca1a42852570af0078ea75?OpenDocument
:
However, in many cases, the BECs have received files in random order. Because reorganizing the large volume of files would be extremely time consuming and would divert resources from actual adjudications, the BECs determined that they would process cases as received, even though it became clear that they could not do so in FIFO order.
I wander what BECs determine next.
I must say I have never seen such a deep mess and irresponsibility in my entire life.
 
sbdol said:
I like this part from http://pubweb.fdbl.com/news1.nsf/9a...3f1fbb721bca1a42852570af0078ea75?OpenDocument
:
However, in many cases, the BECs have received files in random order. Because reorganizing the large volume of files would be extremely time consuming and would divert resources from actual adjudications, the BECs determined that they would process cases as received, even though it became clear that they could not do so in FIFO order.
I wander what BECs determine next.
I must say I have never seen such a deep mess and irresponsibility in my entire life.

Welcome to USA. I think only the immigration related stuff is that pathetic ( because they are catering to a somewhat helpless bunch ).
 
Non-RIR Recruitment

Does anyone know if PBEC or DBEC started looking at Non-RIR cases at all? Have they asked anyone to start the recruitment?
 
It's much more than a deep mess...

Here's something I would like to share in this regard(w.r.t my case)...

Factors Affecting Backlog Processing Order

1.The type of case. -RIR

2.The stage of processing the case had reached before transfer to the BEC.-Was in Philly BEC (Federal DOL - State cleared earlier)

3.The complexity of the application. -I don't see any complexity bcos the State has already cleared it, so it should have been a "easy go"

4.Promptness of the employer's response to DOL inquiries.- I received the 45 day letter exactly 1 year ago, replied next day(Confirmed - Continuation - 12/2004)

5.When the case was received from the SWA or regional office.-The then Philly DOL (Federal DOL) processed cases just 15 days before mine was in queue and my bad luck mine got moved to the new PBEC )-:

On top of all these "There is no way you can know the status of your case - Hence u r at the mercy of not only "Blood sucking Employers", but also these "Irresponsible PBEC guys".

Anyway , Wish U All a very Happy New Year.

"God curse these PBEC guys." May their Soul rest in hell.

Regards,
Immidude74
sbdol said:
I like this part from http://pubweb.fdbl.com/news1.nsf/9a...3f1fbb721bca1a42852570af0078ea75?OpenDocument
:
However, in many cases, the BECs have received files in random order. Because reorganizing the large volume of files would be extremely time consuming and would divert resources from actual adjudications, the BECs determined that they would process cases as received, even though it became clear that they could not do so in FIFO order.
I wander what BECs determine next.
I must say I have never seen such a deep mess and irresponsibility in my entire life.
 
You missed the most important factor that influences FIFO.

"Distance between the box containing your case and the certifying officer's desk."

Like Saknia mentioned a couple of days back it looks like they have multiple threads of processing started by opening multiple boxes randomly..

immidude74 said:
Here's something I would like to share in this regard(w.r.t my case)...

Factors Affecting Backlog Processing Order

1.The type of case. -RIR

2.The stage of processing the case had reached before transfer to the BEC.-Was in Philly BEC (Federal DOL - State cleared earlier)

3.The complexity of the application. -I don't see any complexity bcos the State has already cleared it, so it should have been a "easy go"

4.Promptness of the employer's response to DOL inquiries.- I received the 45 day letter exactly 1 year ago, replied next day(Confirmed - Continuation - 12/2004)

5.When the case was received from the SWA or regional office.-The then Philly DOL (Federal DOL) processed cases just 15 days before mine was in queue and my bad luck mine got moved to the new PBEC )-:

On top of all these "There is no way you can know the status of your case - Hence u r at the mercy of not only "Blood sucking Employers", but also these "Irresponsible PBEC guys".

Anyway , Wish U All a very Happy New Year.

"God curse these PBEC guys." May their Soul rest in hell.

Regards,
Immidude74
 
PBEC is not the only culprit

immidude74 said:
Here's something I would like to share in this regard(w.r.t my case)...

Factors Affecting Backlog Processing Order

1.The type of case. -RIR

2.The stage of processing the case had reached before transfer to the BEC.-Was in Philly BEC (Federal DOL - State cleared earlier)

3.The complexity of the application. -I don't see any complexity bcos the State has already cleared it, so it should have been a "easy go"

4.Promptness of the employer's response to DOL inquiries.- I received the 45 day letter exactly 1 year ago, replied next day(Confirmed - Continuation - 12/2004)

5.When the case was received from the SWA or regional office.-The then Philly DOL (Federal DOL) processed cases just 15 days before mine was in queue and my bad luck mine got moved to the new PBEC )-:

On top of all these "There is no way you can know the status of your case - Hence u r at the mercy of not only "Blood sucking Employers", but also these "Irresponsible PBEC guys".

Anyway , Wish U All a very Happy New Year.

"God curse these PBEC guys." May their Soul rest in hell.

Regards,
Immidude74

How many of you still believe its just a mess. I believe its something more sinister, something deliberate and something totally avoidable if desired.

Even slow states like california used to process labors in 3 months in 2000 when the economy needed people like us. Now there is so much outcry about H1/L1's taking up all software jobs in this country. Most people who came in the boom time are now finishing up their 6 years. I think they just want people like us to leave. And they are doing it by making the law highly unfavorable to us. If they want to provide immigration relief, they can easily allow us to file I485 regardless of visa availability. The application can sit there and rot while we wait for the priority dates to become current, but it would make all the difference in our lives and provide relief to the hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants. Just having the ability to file an application would make all the difference in our lives. They gave relief to the undocumented workers. Why not do something in good faith for the legal immigrants too. Now they are processing cases for undocumented workers along with legal potential immigrants. Why the hell should an application for an illegal slow down an application for a legal potential immigrant family.

Students started going to other countries for higher studies so they made a seperate category for Master's and increased the number of H1B visas for Master's to 50,000 and made student visa dual intent.

When they had a shortage of nurses, they made a seperate EB category and recaptured the visas for nurces so that they were not affected by retrogression.

I think the backlog center was created to delay applications and not for processing them fast. All centers could have easily cleared the applications by now if there were no BEC's. This funding of 100M could have been better spent hiring few more people in the DOL's.

Now that the visa retrogression dates are badly screwed up and after you clear a 4 year old labor, you are hit with retrogression. How long can one hold on to his job at the same position/salary /designation. Most people cant. And this is why there are delays, so that we all get kicked out one by one.

Forming BEC was a fantastic idea. If I were the govt and if I wanted to cause delays, I would subcontract the job to a private contractor so that the blame goes there. Since there was such a big transition involved in moving 3,60,000 files and reentering data, they have good excuse that the task in hand is big and the files were sent in random order, software crashes in BEC's and so on. Then 45 day letter was another great idea to delay applications. Send 45 day letters at random to create confusion. And they cannot provide status and any processing timeframes aven after 1 year of forming BEC.

On top of that, they started PERM. What can I say. All of us could have been given the opportunity to convert to PERM but they made it so difficult for old timers and so easy for newcomers that people who start the process now can get labor approved in 3-4 months.

If I had the opportunity to go back in time and do it all over again, I wouldnt. I wouldnt waste my time and energy over something that has no timeframes, no fairness, where rules keep on changing daily. I have invested so much time and energy that its difficult to quit now.

Happy 2006.
 
GCTitan said:
You missed the most important factor that influences FIFO.

"Distance between the box containing your case and the certifying officer's desk."

Like Saknia mentioned a couple of days back it looks like they have multiple threads of processing started by opening multiple boxes randomly..

Hmm, if the concept of a "box" is still in play, then what the heck they were doing during "data entry"? :eek:
 
does that mean that following assumption might hold ??

saknia said:
The wheels of PBEC Engine has started moving atlast (eventhough very slowly). See the approvals between 11/13/2005 to 12/21/2005

Total Approvals for this period - 20 Cases
( Not Bad though)

Date Known Name State Categ Categ PD
11/3/2005 srawal MD EB3 RIR Jan-02
11/4/2005 whathehec MD EB3 RIR Feb-02
11/7/2005 GCDC VA EB3 Apr-02
11/14/2005 RC10580 NY Nov-01
11/15/2005 Rajel NY Oct-01
11/28/2005 icici MD EB2 RIR Jul-01
11/28/2005 Unknown MD Aug-01
11/30/2005 Juanito NY RIR Jan-02
11/30/2005 VK2003 VA EB2 RIR Mar-02
12/1/2005 Unknown MD RIR Feb-02
12/5/2005 gcislife NY EB3 RIR Jun-02
12/6/2005 Unknown VA Feb-02
12/7/2005 garp MD Dec-01
12/12/2005 Unknown CA RIR Oct-02
12/12/2005 Unknown Harrisburgh Nov-03
12/16/2005 Unknown NY EB3 RIR Jan-02
12/17/2005 smallriver MD RIR Oct-01
12/18/2005 jj71 NY RIR Feb-02
12/19/2005 waiting_laborFL Oct-03
12/21/2005 CGUBI NY Nov-01


that the RIR queue is somewhere at Feb-March'02 ??????????
 
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