2002calabor said:Count me in guys... I am ready because I am getting really tired of waiting and hoping day after day and week after week. With a Sep 02 PD I should have been approved by now. I think PBEC is just picking some cases from every month and moving on just to say that they are moving.
Let's list down what our choices are....
2002calabor said:So here's what I think our choices are ...
We have tried several things like letter writing campagins, law suits, faxes, so far nothing has worked. Legal changes are already in the offing to clear backlong in the next year (immigrationvoice efforts).
To get things to move before another year I believe we do need a dedicated organization that can lobby with the Department of Labor to put pressure on PBEC to get the backlog moving.
Guys, in the past I was never quite sure of the goals of immigrationvoice as far as labor backlog is concerned. Given the results of their recent efforts it might be worth joining forces with to get a lobbying effort with PBEC. What are your thoughts?
ladude10 said:Sounds like a plan
1) We can make a list of ppl who want to participate in this. We need to make clear that it is not lawsuit against PBEC, purpose it to just ask them collectively, why there is no FIFO and some (many 2001/2002) early cases are still stuck? Is there anything we can do?
2) We all know some general answers (blah blah) but we need firm answers/ timeline (2007 doesn’t make any sense. That deadline is for 2005 cases).
3) Is there anything missing or wrong with these cases or it is just random? Is there anything we can do?
4) If we have many ppl then we have better chances, we can make a list of stuck cases before talking to Rajiv and can invite all the ppl and couple us can take a lead to talk to him (conference call).
5) I guess many ppl wants to participate but they don’t want to give their case number how we can handle that? Is it first 5 digits info/state/PD/EB is enough? I guess many ppl don’t want to go against their company or Lawyer. So we can make it more general for 2001/2002 ppl instead of case specific.
6) This week we can make list of number of members want to participate with some more details. We can get that info from this thread.
I am open to share my contact details with Sankia and you or anybody who want to discuss this offline and outline the plan.
Ladude10
CA/EB3/PD July 2002
No problem Saknia, but continue to visit this forum while you are away from this PBEC mess. We would like to hear and get your opinions.saknia said:Based on above we have three options so far
1) Continue to work with Letter Faxes - Which are specifically designed to Focus the Left out cases - before Nov 2002 & 2001
2) Talk to Rajiv and see if he can help us in representing to PBEC in some form of Enquiry to ask about what is wrong with these cases.
3) Talk to IV .ORG and see if they are interested in talking for these specific cases with PBEC through some resources
I think ultimatley we might have to decide between 2 & 3 knowing the Fate of Letter Campaign with DOL.
Option 1 will be free
Option 2 & 3 will need funds to be contributed by all those are interested
saknia said:Based on above we have three options so far
1) Continue to work with Letter Faxes - Which are specifically designed to Focus the Left out cases - before Nov 2002 & 2001
2) Talk to Rajiv and see if he can help us in representing to PBEC in some form of Enquiry to ask about what is wrong with these cases.
3) Talk to IV .ORG and see if they are interested in talking for these specific cases with PBEC through some resources
I think ultimatley we might have to decide between 2 & 3 knowing the Fate of Letter Campaign with DOL.
Option 1 will be free
Option 2 & 3 will need funds to be contributed by all those are interested
ben123 said:1. I have already written letters. Recently made a call to PBEC along with HR and the lady who answered the phone said that nothing is wrong with my application, and they are still processing cases and that it is possible that people with PD later than mine got approved. My HR lady was asking me if there was anything more she could do.
2. I guess talking to Rajiv is a great idea, if he is willing to help us for a fee then I am willing to chip in some money.
3. IV folks sure did great work with amendment to immigration bill, so may be we should have a discussion with them.
Saknia, can you drive to get our voices heard, I will support you 100 percent?
Ok Whereismy_gc we we will talk tomorrow evening..whereismy_gc said:No problem Saknia, but continue to visit this forum while you are away from this PBEC mess. We would like to hear and get your opinions.
Ladudude, I will contact you thru PM. Let's talk about this tomorrow evening, if you could or in worst case Monday.
Guys, lets fire this up. It should be either 'Yes' or 'No'. Why would we want to spend our life & valuable time working like HI-TECH SLAVES...???? This is a privilege and we want to earn it with some dignity.
I would suggest keep sending more letters..call PBEC (don't mind if they talk to you harshly..just keep your coool...).
2002calabor said:Since saknia is taking off for some time, can someone else take the lead here? I think it might be a good idea to start discussion with immigrationvoice
But let's keep this open to all PBEC victims (not just 2001/2002 cases). That way we will have bargaining power with immigrationvoice also.
gcby2020 said:Another round of letters to DFLC chief may help with CC to GAO. Also contact your congressmen. I just met senior staff of our congressman.
csrini1 said:I am in. my 2 cents....
I talked to someone john roberts in the labor dept,
They very well know that FIFO is not followed and what is going on at BEC.
He says there is nothing he or anyone can do about it, bcos everything is under contract!! thats right!! contract.
These contractors are supposed to turn over XXX number of cases by so and so date, to get paid and may be renew contracts.
so all the people involved know that these contractors and their immediate bosses are working/approving cases where minumum effort is needed!! meaning cases which have cleared state and were at DOL b4 they came to BEC's. so once all these cases are cleared(i think these itself will take till 2007 end), then these contractors will ask for a raise and extension of their contracts to do the ACTUAL work(i.e. working on the cases transferred from state) May be at this stage, to show the number of cases approved, they may simply approve the remanded cases then...
Does anyone thinks, this doesn't makes sense??
ladude10 said:Ok Whereismy_gc we we will talk tomorrow evening..
SoR said:Post how much $, might make yes/no decisions easier.