Parents GC

indeedgc

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I am a US citizen and my parents are planning to come to the US around Feb 2011 Once they are here , I need to wait about 90 days and then file the following together

I-130
I-485
I-864
G-325
I-693 (from USCIS certified physician)

Does this mean that their stay is legal beyond the six month I-94 issued to them at the port of entry

Any other suggestions are welcome

Thanks
 
Once you file for them and you have a reciept in hand their overstay is protected.
It is better and lawful to file for a consular processing and not abuse the Visa that has been given to them by jumping the line, more and more people are using this unlawful way for parents to adjust status in US rather than using the system that is in place for immigrants. By doing this we will make it hard for any Parents in the future coming from India to obtain a visitor visa because then the Visa officers will fear they will also abuse the visitor privilige and adjust status as soon as their kids become a USC.
Please don't abuse the visa and use it for the purpose its made for, change of intent is only allowed in case of abrupt change in circumstances, in this case here it seems like you have a long established intent of bringing them in as Visitors and apply to adjust status.
By requesting CP the Consular Officers will clearly see that atleast people are acquiring immigrant visas while having a Valid 10 year B1/B2 and not abusing the visa and breaking the law.
It also comes with a saving of about $600 each parent for CP VS adjustment of status I-485 fee.
 
Thank you, namecheckvictim, for reminding OP that as a USC he should be obeying the laws and not assisting his parents in violating US immigration rules.

OP, there is a right way and a wrong way for your parents to get a GC. It is planned violations of US law that make old USCs angry at new citizens who are only interested in themselves and not obeying that laws that they have sworn to uphold in their oath. If you did not plan to obey all of the laws, you should not have come to the US and certainly not become a citizen.
 
If they were actually allowed to enter and applied for adjustment, it is very likely that the adjustments would be denied anyway and they'd have to go back and do Consular Processing. A HUGE added expense and waste of time. Not to mention how it just ruins the chances of so many other parents from ever getting REAL Tourist visas.
 
If they were actually allowed to enter and applied for adjustment, it is very likely that the adjustments would be denied anyway and they'd have to go back and do Consular Processing. A HUGE added expense and waste of time. Not to mention how it just ruins the chances of so many other parents from ever getting REAL Tourist visas.

Bigjoe5,

I doubt it as i am pretty sure the OP will coach the parents to say at POE that they are here for a visit and some time later file for them and they'll go " Oh well, our intent changed " at the adjustment interview. As you know the IO respecting the Parents for the Sake of a United States Citizen give a benefit of a doubt and give a huge favor and adjust status even though he/she can very well turn it down, sooner or later they will get tired of this and probably will start turning parents down even for the deserving adjustment parents due to health or whatever.

OP not to bragg or anything, I am a single father of a disabled child, I need all the help that I can get and wanted my mom to stay here and help me with my everyday responsibilities, she is here now and have a B1/B2 with authorized stay expiring Dec 10, 2010. I filed a I-130 in June after her arrival and selected CP and she is going back the first week of December.
Good news is that today I paid the IV fee on DOS website and will send the DS-230 package by the end of this week and from the looks of it hopefully she will have a CP interview in late Jan or early Feb 2011.
I did all this because atleast I will feel good that I followed the rules and most of all to think that we didn't break the trust of the Consular Officer placed in my mother to visit her son by granting her a Visa which helped a lot in my circumstances.
I am sure at my mom's interview the Consular officer is gonna have a smile on his/her face when he/she will put "Cancelled without Prejudice" stamp on the still valid B1/B2 visa and issue her a immigrant visa and knowing she specifically went back to take care of this the right way.
I don't want any part of the blame when they are going to start refusing B1/B2 just because people here use short cuts and abuse the visa that was granted to their parents in good faith.

indeedgc,

In your original post you asked and welcomed any suggestions, well there are some here for you and here is mine " Do not ruin the trust placed in your parents and take advantage of the Lenient Consular Officers in India who grant Visas to almost all the parents of H Category in India and do it the way it is supposed to be "
 
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Why not go the consular processing route? You have made clear your intentions on a public forum, so why go down the route meant for those who actually make a spur of the moment decision to stay back in the US?

I need to wait about 90 days and then file the following together
 
I don't see it's unlawful to adjust status while in United States. Read One Step Process>
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=9c8aa6c515083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Tell me how come it's lawful for H1B or others to adjust status while in US. You probably have green card thru your employment..right? Did you opt for CP? There is route for CP after I-140 as well.

Their circumstances were different when they got B2 visa. Now it's different. How come they are abusing visitor visa? Are they becoming illegal here after getting visitor visa??

Once you file for them and you have a reciept in hand their overstay is protected.
It is better and lawful to file for a consular processing and not abuse the Visa that has been given to them by jumping the line, more and more people are using this unlawful way for parents to adjust status in US rather than using the system that is in place for immigrants. By doing this we will make it hard for any Parents in the future coming from India to obtain a visitor visa because then the Visa officers will fear they will also abuse the visitor privilige and adjust status as soon as their kids become a USC.
Please don't abuse the visa and use it for the purpose its made for, change of intent is only allowed in case of abrupt change in circumstances, in this case here it seems like you have a long established intent of bringing them in as Visitors and apply to adjust status.
By requesting CP the Consular Officers will clearly see that atleast people are acquiring immigrant visas while having a Valid 10 year B1/B2 and not abusing the visa and breaking the law.
It also comes with a saving of about $600 each parent for CP VS adjustment of status I-485 fee.
 
Care about sending the link of US immigrations rules which are being violated???

Thank you, namecheckvictim, for reminding OP that as a USC he should be obeying the laws and not assisting his parents in violating US immigration rules.

OP, there is a right way and a wrong way for your parents to get a GC. It is planned violations of US law that make old USCs angry at new citizens who are only interested in themselves and not obeying that laws that they have sworn to uphold in their oath. If you did not plan to obey all of the laws, you should not have come to the US and certainly not become a citizen.
 
Here are the laws that you are trying to force your parents to break.

INA 101(a)

(15) The term ``immigrant'' means every alien except an alien who is
within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens--

(B) an alien (other than one coming for the purpose of study or
of performing skilled or unskilled labor or as a representative of
foreign press, radio, film, or other foreign information media
coming to engage in such vocation) having a residence in a foreign
country which he has no intention of abandoning and who is visiting
the United States temporarily for business or temporarily for
pleasure;


In order to get this visa, they have to LIE up front and at the POE and during the Adjustment. Lie = misrepresentation. They are immigrants without immigrant visas. These circumstances allow for them to be turned away at the POE and to be denied adjustment. They would then have to go abroad and apply for a waiver of grounds of inadmissibility under INA 212(h) and then do consular processing IF they were granted a waiver.

INA 212 Inadmissible aliens

(a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admission

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are
inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive
visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:

(6) Illegal entrants and immigration violators

(C) Misrepresentation

(i) In general

Any alien who, by fraud or willfully misrepresenting a
material fact, seeks to procure (or has sought to procure or
has procured) a visa, other documentation, or admission into
the United States or other benefit provided under this
chapter is inadmissible.

(7) Documentation requirements

(A) Immigrants

(i) In general

Except as otherwise specifically provided in this
chapter, any immigrant at the time of application for
admission--
(I) who is not in possession of a valid unexpired
immigrant visa, reentry permit, border crossing
identification card, or other valid entry document
required by this chapter, and a valid unexpired
passport, or other suitable travel document, or document
of identity and nationality if such document is required
under the regulations issued by the Attorney General
under section 211(a) of this title, or

(II) whose visa has been issued without compliance
with the provisions of section 203 of this title, is inadmissible.
 
Tell me how come it's lawful for H1B or others to adjust status while in US.

Because the law explicitly states that H-1 holders have no foreign residency requirement or non-immigrant intent. An H-1 holder can arrive at the border, tell the POE agent that they will file the I-485 the instant they cross and cannot be denied entry for that reason.

A visitor? Nope.
 
8 CFR 245.2 Application.

(a) General —

(4) Effect of departure —(i) General. The effect of a departure from the United States is dependent upon the law under which the applicant is applying for adjustment.

(ii) Under section 245 of the Act. (A) The departure from the United States of an applicant who is under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceedings shall be deemed an abandonment of the application constituting grounds for termination of the proceeding by reason of the departure. Except as provided in paragraph (a)(4)(ii)(B) and (C) of this section, the departure of an applicant who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceedings shall be deemed an abandonment of the application constituting grounds for termination of any pending application for adjustment of status, unless the applicant was previously granted advance parole by the Service for such absences, and was inspected upon returning to the United States. If the adjustment application of an individual granted advance parole is subsequently denied the individual will be treated as an applicant for admission, and subject to the provisions of section 212 and 235 of the Act.

(B) The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceedings shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if he or she was previously granted advance parole by the Service for such absences, and was inspected and paroled upon returning to the United States. If the adjustment of status application of such individual is subsequently denied, he or she will be treated as an applicant for admission, and subject to the provisions of section 212 and 235 of the Act.

(C) The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful H–1 or L–1 status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if, upon returning to this country, the alien remains eligible for H or L status, is coming to resume employment with the same employer for whom he or she had previously been authorized to work as an H–1 or L–1 nonimmigrant, and, is in possession of a valid H or L visa (if required). The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful H–4 or L–2 status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if the spouse or parent of such alien through whom the H–4 or L–2 status was obtained is maintaining H–1 or L–1 status and the alien remains otherwise eligible for H–4 or L–2 status, and, the alien is in possession of a valid H–4 or L–2 visa (if required). The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status, who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful K–3 or K–4 status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if, upon returning to this country, the alien is in possession of a valid K–3 or K–4 visa and remains eligible for K–3 or K–4 status.

(D) The travel outside of the United States by an applicant for adjustment of status who is not under exclusion, deportation, or removal proceeding and who is in lawful V status shall not be deemed an abandonment of the application if, upon returning to this country, the alien is admissible as a V nonimmigrant.

64 FR 29209 Preliminary remarks from INS (now DHS including USCIS and CBP) upon issuance of regulatory changes published in volume 64 of the Federal Register on June 1, 1999. See at: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=29209&dbname=1999_register

What Categories of Aliens May
Maintain Nonimmigrant Status After
Having Filed for Adjustment of Status?

Under Section 214(b) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act, (Act),
most nonimmigrants who apply for
adjustment of status to that of
permanent residents of the United
States are presumed to be intending
immigrants and, therefore, are no longer
eligible to maintain nonimmigrant
status. Section 214(h) of the Act,
however, permits aliens described in
section 101(a)(15)(H)(i) and (L) of the
Act, i.e., temporary workers in specialty
occupations, intracompany managerial
or executive transferees, and their
dependent spouses and children, to
maintain their nonimmigrant status
during the pendency of their
applications for adjustment of status.

In addition, the Service is considering
expanding the dual intent concept to
cover other long term nonimmigrants
who are visiting this country as traders
(E–1), investors (E–2), students (F–1, J–
1 or M–1), or scholars (J–1), etc. These
nonimmigrants, who are typically
authorized to stay in this country for
considerable lengths of time, often need
to make short overseas travels during
their authorized stay. Under the ‘‘dual
intent’’ doctrine, these nonimmigrants
would be able to maintain valid
nonimmigrant status and travel overseas
without advance parole while applying
for adjustment of status.

The Service has, traditionally,
considered applying for adjustment of
status as relevant evidence in
determining whether an alien has
abandoned the requisite nonimmigrant
intent. Section 214(b) of the Act does
not, however, require the Service to
hold this position as an absolute rule.
So long as the alien clearly intends to
comply with the requirements of his or
her nonimmigrant status, the fact that
the alien would like to become a
permanent resident, if the law permits
this, does not bar the alien’s continued
holding of a nonimmigrant status.

Dual intent recognizes that a specialty occupation worker continues to work, a student continues to study, a manager continues to manage, an investor continues to invest or manage an investment etc... BUT a tourist can cease to be a tourist and a business trip ends, a diplomat can cease to be a diplomat, etc...
 
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