New York City - N-400 Timeline - Naturalization Experiences

rick92 said:
nothing, nada, niente, rien, nichts, nil, zilch.
Thanks for asking. It's 2 1/2 months already and no sign of the oath letter.
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So what are you doing about it? Did you do infopass? Did you call IO? By the way, what is the trick to get an IO on the phone?
I'm getting close to 3 months from ID
 
baraider said:
By the way, what is the trick to get an IO on the phone?
I'm getting close to 3 months from ID
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Get a CSR on the line and tell them that you applied 2 months ago and haven't gotten a receipt yet.That'll trigger an automatic transfer to an IO.
 
baraider said:
So what are you doing about it? Did you do infopass? Did you call IO? By the way, what is the trick to get an IO on the phone?
I'm getting close to 3 months from ID
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I have INFOPASSED twice at 26 federal plaza and nothing comes out of it. They only say your app has been approved and wait for the oath letter. How frustrating can that be for a regular person ?

I mean, they should have expedited processing even if it cost US$575 dollars more. I am sure many people will pay it and USCIS could make some money in the process. I mean, they already have it for other applications !!! :eek:
 
I called the 1-800 number just now, got transferred to IO and after doing his "research", he told me that my case is pending and all I have to do is wait for the oath letter.
He didn't even know that I met my IO on Jan 12 to submit additional documentations.
So much for the internal system.

I probably will have to do an infopass and try to meet my IO to see if anything is holding back my case.
 
baraider said:
I called the 1-800 number just now, got transferred to IO and after doing his "research", he told me that my case is pending and all I have to do is wait for the oath letter.
He didn't even know that I met my IO on Jan 12 to submit additional documentations.
So much for the internal system.

I probably will have to do an infopass and try to meet my IO to see if anything is holding back my case.
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In my personal opinion, Infopass is just a waste of time. Why? Because officers at district offices won't be able to tell people anything different what the officers over the phone can't. Both see the same system and both are just informative officers than adjudication ones. In person, they don't look in the file to see something more; rather they see same information thru the same system.

The reason why officer over the phone wouldn't be able to see that you went back recently to the office to submit documents is because submitting of documents don't updated during naturalization time. Further, sometime it takes too long for USCIS to update any information on receiving any documentation from the applicant. Thus, officer told you what s/he saw in the system.
 
Bobsmyth said:
Is still has an advantage over speaking with IO over phone: face to face contact and the ability to ask for a supervisor if needed.
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It's true though, but most of the time officers at infopass don't allow to speak with supervisor if someone is still under the processing timeframe for their case. As for face to face contact, then I don't think anyone cares about it because all what people care is-getting a good news or getting their case moving towards a positive end regardless of face-to-face contact or not. It's same to the fact that no any immigrant would care to take an Oath only in Court if USCIS would allow them to have the oath in USCIS office.

The chief Justice of NY State Supreme Court rejected the motion filed by NYC district director a year ago wherein District Director asked the court to give her office the authority to administer administrative oath to applicants in NYC DO. In his opinion, judge noted that becoming a US citizen is a very special and important ceremony and immigrants don't want this ocassion to be too casual just by having an administrative oath in USCIS builiding. But Judge was completely wrong and out of touch on reality because I've not met any immigrant who says that s/he will prefer to take oath only in the court; rather every immigrant would prefer to become a US citizen right away or as soon as possible without any delay if they could. Taking an oath in court is really a pain and a delayed process, if you ask me, compared to an administrative oath. The reason for this explanation is that nobody cares about face to face contact so long they can get their case moving towards a positive direction.
 
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Wow, i can't believe the judge turned down NYC DO request to grant on the spot oath. I could care less about becoming USC in some special place.
Just get my case the heck done and over with.
 
Did they ask if you are still married??

Hello NyC filers,

I filed my N400 at VSC on SEPT 2008 and I'm still waiting for the interview appointment;

Last month, unfortunately. My wife filed for divorce.
I am still trying to convince her to withdraw the divorce papers;

I asked advice in this forum re my situation and the outcome was this:
-I should show up for the interview anyway and tell the IO that my marital union has been changed, that she filed for divorce

-this will result in a automatic denial (with the chnce to reapply 2 years from now based on a 5 years) almost 99% of the cases;
My question is: if the IO does not ask " if I'm still married" question should I tell them straight upfront before the beginning of the interview that she filed for divorce??

Will this "confession" alterate or upset the IO or will the IO sk me for details of this divorce situation?

Pls advice
Your opinion is very important

Thanks
 
Don't pin your hopes on the IO not asking if you're still married. The law is clear on what constitutes marital union for immigration purposes. You will risk being denaturalized later if you don't disclose your circumstance voluntarily.
 
Bobsmyth said:
Don't pin your hopes on the IO not asking if you're still married. The law is clear on what constitutes marital union for immigration purposes. You will risk being denaturalized later if you don't disclose your circumstance voluntarily.
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Bobsmith,

if i read the immigration regulations, the marital union requirements
has to be met at THE FILING;

legally, due to the long divorce procedures time, i will still be married;

i will disclose this to the IO, i will tell him
my question here is how many chances do i have to pass and be approved
in this scenario?

thanks
 
roberto gasta said:
Bobsmith,

if i read the immigration regulations, the marital union requirements
has to be met at THE FILING;

legally, due to the long divorce procedures time, i will still be married;

i will disclose this to the IO, i will tell him
my question here is how many chances do i have to pass and be approved
in this scenario?

thanks
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If you disclose this to the IO, I don't see any risk of jeopardizing your permanent residence, at least.
How many chances? No idea, I guess we'll find out at your interview.
It's a pretty grey area, but in my opinion, it works the same way as the IO asking you again all the N400 questions. If something changed since filing, it has to be updated, hence your marital situation changed and your eligibility as well. Just my opinion, I wish you best of luck.
Worse comes to worse, you could apply in less than 2 years.
It's a waste of $600 but I'd be more upset about the divorce...
 
roberto gasta said:
Bobsmith,

if i read the immigration regulations, the marital union requirements
has to be met at THE FILING;

legally, due to the long divorce procedures time, i will still be married;

i will disclose this to the IO, i will tell him
my question here is how many chances do i have to pass and be approved
in this scenario?

thanks
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Listen, my friend and you will grow older in wisdom. One of the questions the IO will ask of you is: Are you still married ? YES or NO. And you will have to answer YES but my wife filed for DIVORCE. If you play around with this, it will be construed as LYING, because you MUST disclose, this is the main pilar of your application for citizenship. There is no way around this one.-

Better a withdrawal than a denial.- Be smart.- Don't play around this one.- Maybe this is what your wife wants you to do, so she can get you later on if she wishes to do so.-

Your chances of approval are 0%.- :D
 
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roberto gasta said:
Bobsmith,

if i read the immigration regulations, the marital union requirements
has to be met at THE FILING;

legally, due to the long divorce procedures time, i will still be married;

i will disclose this to the IO, i will tell him
my question here is how many chances do i have to pass and be approved
in this scenario?

thanks
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Read the law again. I have posted it earlier and it states that a separation or sign of separation during the process shall be considered as a break in marital union under immigration law.
The fact that you are in a long divorce, but still legally married, still constitutes a break in marital union under immigration law. Don't convince yourself that being "legally married" is the sole requirement for "marital union" definition under immigration law.
 
Oath Letter

Hi I had passed my naturalization interview
I am still waiting for Oath Letter my wife was interviewed the same day
She got OL for Feb 11,2009 I wonder if Post Service misplaced my OL?
 
Allien2 said:
Garden City,NY any expirience with OATH LETTER
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Look at my signature. They are the worst. And by the way, you said your wife got the OL in 1/30 and OD in 2/11.

Let me ask you: Is the oath outside NYC ? Is it in Long Island? And, was your wife's interview in Garden City? ;)
 
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