naturalization DENIED is my green card in danger??

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Hi, I need some help please..

My application for naturalization was denied because .. after my interview I was given a n-14 form to provide evidence showing my father worked for the petitioning company after receiving greencard.

I was unable to provide evidence and I received a letter stating my application for naturalization must be denied because I was unable to establish that i was lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residence.

Do you have any experience with cases like this? What usually happens? If this officer doesn't file anything else beyond this, will I be able to keep permanent residency? Will this be in issue when renewing the card?

Thank you so much for your help.
 
indianexpert said:
I dont understand why they asked you about father employment
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I suspect the OP is a derivative beneficiary of his father's green card process, and the IO has doubts on the father's GC.

To OP: How did you get your green card? If through your father, what are the specific details in terms of when he got it, how long did he work? Did he get naturalized or abandon the GC?

In terms of retaining permanent residency, did the IO say anything further? Your verbiage seems to be ambiguous - if the IO said you are unable to demonstrate permanent residency, he may file to revoke it (and start deportation process). It is also possible he may not. Please provide additional context.
 
Obviously you are not sharing all relevant information about your case.

How old are you?
When did you get your green card?
When did your father get his green card?
Did your father also file N-400? If so, what is the outcome?
 
h0urg1ass said:
Hi, I need some help please..

My application for naturalization was denied because .. after my interview I was given a n-14 form to provide evidence showing my father worked for the petitioning company after receiving greencard.

I was unable to provide evidence
------------------------why were you unable to provide the evidence? please explain.
and I received a letter stating my application for naturalization must be denied because I was unable to establish that i was lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residence.

Do you have any experience with cases like this?
What usually happens?
If this officer doesn't file anything else beyond this, will I be able to keep permanent residency?
-------------------------if the USCIS found that you wre unable to establish that you were not lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residence then USCIS can start Rescission of GC and will send Notice of Intent to Rescind GC.
Will this be in issue when renewing the card?
-------------Yes
Thank you so much for your help.
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Need more details about your Father case and we need Sequence of events to understand.
did he work after GC with employer who filed his GC?
if he did not work after GC with employer who filed his I-140 then at what stage he left.
Date your Father I-140 got approved
Date your father filed I-485 and date your I-485 was filed
were you on H4 and filed your I-485 with your father I-485?

Date your father Changed the employer after I-485 filing? When did he changed?
Did your father filed AC21?
the date your father got GC approved...
The date you got GC approved...
The date you filed N400
Where was your Interview? Name of your DO
Did your father also filed N400? When? result?
update us and also talk to good lawyer.

*** It seems that you filed N400 before 5 years of GC approval date or your Interview was before 5 years of your GC approval date.
 
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I got my green card with my father when I was 16 years old. In the letter, the IO didn't state anything about retaining permanent residency.
"As of this date of this notice, you have failed to provide evidence showing your father's employment with sponsoring company. Thus, you are unable to establish that you were lawfully admitted to US. Thus you do not meet the requirements for naturalization as provided for secion 316a of the act. therefore your app for naturalization must be and is hereby denied"

Has anyone's GC been revoked in a similar case?
 
He is hiding something here, he doesn't want to talk about father like his current status, if he is in US etc. IO decision mainly depends on his fathers current status which he is not revealing
 
h0urg1ass said:
I got my green card with my father when I was 16 years old. In the letter, the IO didn't state anything about retaining permanent residency.
"As of this date of this notice, you have failed to provide evidence showing your father's employment with sponsoring company. Thus, you are unable to establish that you were lawfully admitted to US. Thus you do not meet the requirements for naturalization as provided for secion 316a of the act. therefore your app for naturalization must be and is hereby denied"

Has anyone's GC been revoked in a similar case?
---------------------They can
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why dont you post the details I asked in above post?
 
indianexpert said:
He is hiding something here, he doesn't want to talk about father like his current status, if he is in US etc.
--------------------that is correct he/she is not posting full details of his father if he is still in US or has GC or applied N400 or got US citizenship approved or not.
IO decision mainly depends on his fathers current status which he is not revealing
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h0urg1ass said:
Hi, I need some help please..

My application for naturalization was denied because .. after my interview I was given a n-14 form to provide evidence showing my father worked for the petitioning company after receiving greencard.

I was unable to provide evidence and I received a letter stating my application for naturalization must be denied because I was unable to establish that i was lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residence.

Do you have any experience with cases like this? What usually happens? If this officer doesn't file anything else beyond this, will I be able to keep permanent residency? Will this be in issue when renewing the card?

Thank you so much for your help.
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Dude,

You should start making sense in your posting if you are to get practical advise from this forum. This will be a free advise, if a lawyer has to listen to you for 15 minutes, $200 will leave your pocket to his practice. Be succint and sequential in the chain of events. :eek:

For example, you were 16th, when you receive the card? Was your father employed by the company or he had left the company for another one? You should clearly outline your timeline, whether your father is now a US or not. Also, what is your father's immigration status:confused:
 
Al Southner said:
Dude,

You should start making sense in your posting if you are to get practical advise from this forum.
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Also, I suspect you are not revealing information so as not to jeopardize yourself. Have no (or little) fear. It is very hard to tie back posters with real people. Omit Name/State/(maybe Occupation) if you want to, but the rest is important for someone to understand the situation.
 
thank you for all your help and quick responses..

I just want to know if someone knew someone who got their GC rescinded from employment-based GC

thanks
 
h0urg1ass said:
I just want to know if someone knew someone who got their GC rescinded from employment-based GC
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If USCIS has concerns about your father's GC and doesn't believe you were "lawfully admitted" as a permanent resident, then I probably would be worried if I was you.

You should answer the questions you have been asked. They are likely to provide better answers to your situation, better answers than your vague questions.
 
h0urg1ass said:
thank you for all your help and quick responses..

I just want to know if someone knew someone who got their GC rescinded from employment-based GC

thanks
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GC can always be pulled back. Usually (or always) it is within the first 5 years of getting the GC. There is a court case establishing this precedent. If they are going to pull back GC, they will notify you (assuming you and your father's address is correct).

However, there are still many unanswered questions. Even though the statute of limitations might be gone, I am sure they can go longer than 5 years if they discover outright fraud. It all depends on how serious the violation / issue is, and how motivated the department is on those kind of issues.
 
h0urg1ass said:
thank you for all your help and quick responses..

I just want to know if someone knew someone who got their GC rescinded from employment-based GC

thanks
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We don't have to know anyone whose GC was rescinded under the employment category. USCIS has to make a determination that it was procured fraudalently to revoke it and deport all beneficiaries. USCIS can deport you 20 years after the fact, there is no statute of limitation for fraud as far as USCIS is concerned, a Michigan Lebanese woman had her citizenship revoked as USCIS proved in court it was obtained fraudalently, be weary of the might of USCIS..:D

For example, if you father worked for Company A, which filed for his greencard on January 2006, but the company became bankrupt on January 2007, but his GC is only approved in March 2007, he is no longer eligible for this GC as the sponsoring company is no longer in existence. If he doesn't inform USCIS of this information, it is viewed as concealing material fact from the US govt. There is a greater likelyhood that USCIS would have denied the GC petition if it had been informed by your father that the petitioning sponsor is no longer in business. I suspect that this is the case with your greencard, your father got the GC after either leaving the sponsoring employer or the sponsoring employer went out of business...:eek:
 
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