N-400 denied ... need advice???

i am under which law 316 or 319

If I am under a 3 years statutory period (8CFR319.1) and not under 5 years period then look at what I just found within Section 8CF319.1 (7) and (8):

(7) For all relevant periods under this paragraph, has been and continues to be a person of good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and favorably disposed toward the good order and happiness of the United States; and

(8) Has complied with all other requirements for naturalization as provided in part 316 of this chapter, except for those contained in sec. 316.2 (a) (3) through (a) (5) of this chapter.

Does statement number 8 (above) means that I am also covered under a 5 years statutory period (part 316) and not only 3 years period (319.1)???? :confused:
 
No since 8 CFR 319.1(7) states:

"For all relevant periods under this paragraph.."

Relevant period in this sense means statutory period, which in your case is 3 years.

and 8 CFR 319.1(8) states:

"Has complied with all other requirements for naturalization as provided in part 316.."

The good moral character part of 316 reads: 8 CFR 316.10(a)

"Requirement of good moral character during the statutory period..."

Again, statutory period in your case is 3 years.
 
Reverse Immigration Denial

Thanks guys for all your support and advice.:D

Just for a reminder, my citizenship (N-400) got denied in November 2008 because I registered to vote in 2004. (Please read my previous posting).:eek:

Now I appealed and scheduled for an interview on the 18 of February 2009.:p

Please I need some ideas to overturn (reverse) the previous immigration denial. What documents I have to provide to support my case? I think the immigration likes to see some sort of documents (not my previous story about making a mistake in registering to vote).:confused:

Any ideas from you guys might save my application for citizenship.:)

Thanks
 
Reverse Immigration Denial

my N-400 application denied by the USCIS. :mad:

This is my story.

I applied for my citizenship through my U.S citizen wife on April 2008. I have been a permanent resident since June 2005. I did mistakenly register to vote in Los Angeles in October 2004. When my wife decided to register to vote I registered with her thinking that everybody can register and I did not intent to vote until I become an American citizen.

Before the interview I went to Los Angeles County and I did remove my name from the register to vote list on October 16 2008. And I obtained a letter noted that I did remove my name from the list and I did NOT vote.

During the interview for nationalization, I told the Officer that I mistakenly
registered to vote. And I provided her with the evidence of the cancelation. Then she continued the interview and I passed my English test. Then she told me that I will receive a written letter about the decision by the mail within 120 days, which I did receive it within 6 weeks.

This is what I received: :confused:

Reference is made to the application for naturalization, Form N-400, which you filed on April 23, 2008, in accordance with Section 316(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, as amended. This section provides that a qualified person may be naturalized if a person has resided continuously in the United States as a lawful permanent resident for five years, has been physically present in the United States for at least half of those five years, and has been and still is a person of good moral character.

Pursuant to an investigation and examination of your application, it is determined that you are ineligible for naturalization at this time. The administrative record reflects that, on October 20, 2008, you were interviewed, under oath, regarding your application. On October 20, 2008, you also executed a Record of Sworn Statement, under oath, in which you stated that you registered to vote in the County of Los Angeles, California.

The administrative record also shows that you submitted an original certification from the Acting Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk of the County of Los Angeles, California, date October 16, 2008, establishing that you registered to vote on October 18, 2004.

The statutory period for your naturalization began on April 22, 2003, which is five years prior to the filing date of your application for naturalization and continues until the time of your naturalization. Your act of registering to vote occurred within the statutory period. As an applicant for naturalization, you must demonstrate that you were a person of good moral character during the statutory period.

Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations, subsection 316.10 specifically provides:
“(b) Finding of a lack of good moral character.
(3) Unless the applicant establishes extenuating circumstances, the applicant shall be found to lack good moral character if, during the statutory period, the applicant:
(iii) Committed unlawful act that adversely reflect upon the applicant’s moral character, or was convicted or imprisoned for such acts, although the acts do not fall within the purview of 316.10(b)(1) or (2).”
Your act of registering to vote in federal, state, or local election in violation of the law demonstrates a lack of good moral character.

Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations, subsection 316.10 specifically provides:
“(a) Requirement of good moral character during the statutory period.
(1) An applicant for naturalization bears the burden of demonstrating that, during the statutorily prescribed period, he or she has been and continues to be a person of good moral character. This includes the period between the examination and the administration of the oath of allegiance.”

Inasmuch as you have failed to demonstrate good moral character during the statutory period. You are at this time ineligible for naturalization. Your application for naturalization to become a citizen of the United States must be, and is hereby, denied. :eek:

If you decide to request a review hearing on this decision pursuant to Section 336(a) of the Act, you must file a request for a hearing within 30 days of the date of this notice (33 days if this notice was received by mail).

This decision is final if no request for hearing is filed within the time allowed. A request for a hearing may be made to the Field Office Director of the Citizenship and Immigration Services at the above address on Form N-336 (enclosed), Request for Hearing on a Decision in Naturalization Proceeding, under Section 336 of the Act, together with a fee of $605.00. A brief or other written statement in support of your request may be submitted with the Request for Hearing.



Thanks guys for all your support and advice. :rolleyes:


Now I appealed and scheduled for an interview on the 18 of February 2009. :eek:

Please I need some ideas to overturn (reverse) the previous immigration denial. What documents I have to provide to support my case? I think the immigration likes to see some sort of documents (not my previous story about making a mistake in registering to vote).:confused:

Any ideas from you guys might save my application for citizenship. :)

Thanks
 
I assume you applied using the 3-year marriage rule. In that case, they mistakenly applied the 5-year rule to you. Using 3 years would put the registration incident outside the statutory period. That provides one good basis for the appeal.

In addition, determine whether the registration form had any wording saying you must be a US citizen. If it did not, you can argue that you did not claim to be a US citizen when you registered. Voting in local elections is allowed for permanent residents in some jurisdictions, so the act of registering to vote is not always automatically claiming to be a US citizen. In particular, if you can get evidence to show that your particular jurisdiction allows permanent residents to vote in local elections, that helps your case even more.

And you better get a lawyer, because appeals are usually a waste of time without one.
 
Your appeal will have to cite specific reasons why the decision should be overturned. This includes referencing immigration law and the code regarding the statutory period for your case as well any previous precedent (including past BIA decisions) that would strengthen your case.Unless you're comfortable in writing up a letter with specific language and defending yourself at an appeal hearing, you should hire a lawyer to assist you.
 
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Thanks guys for all your support and advice.:D

Just for a reminder, my citizenship (N-400) got denied in November 2008 because I registered to vote in 2004. (Please read my previous posting).:eek:

Now I appealed and scheduled for an interview on the 18 of February 2009.:p

Please I need some ideas to overturn (reverse) the previous immigration denial. What documents I have to provide to support my case? I think the immigration likes to see some sort of documents (not my previous story about making a mistake in registering to vote).:confused:

Any ideas from you guys might save my application for citizenship.:)

Thanks

Hi, I wish you the best of luck in your appeal,, the documents you can take in my opinion are the ones where state that you did NOT VOTE nad the ones where you removed your name from the registry.

Now my questions to you

Are you doing this on your own or with lawyer?

and How much did it cost you for the appeal? :)
 
I don't even know why they denied you. You already showed good moral character by showing your mistake. You didn't kill anybody either. When you realized your mistake you took your name from registry and you didn't vote. What else can you do?
It looks like an easy case to win. Show your proofs and all the documents showing your good moral character. (church donations, helping poor.... whatever you remember....)
 
I don't even know why they denied you. You already showed good moral character by showing your mistake. You didn't kill anybody either. When you realized your mistake you took your name from registry and you didn't vote. What else can you do?
It looks like an easy case to win. Show your proofs and all the documents showing your good moral character. (church donations, helping poor.... whatever you remember....)

For USCIS, non-citizen registering to vote is a serious offense and it is deportable.
It is pretty much like predenting to have US citizenship. Some years ago, INS tried
to deport an Australian for this. Of course that AUstralian not only registered to vote
but actually partici[pated in vote. He was caught while serving on a jury. He was a very good guy
and did all these because he did not know he shoudl not do what he did. ALthough it can puzzle
people how he could miss the question like "Are you a US citizen". Such question is always asked
before proceeding to registering to vote or becoming a juror
 
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For USCIS, non-citizen registering to vote is a serious offense and it is deportable.
It is pretty much like predenting to have US citizenship. Some years ago, INS tried
to deport an Australian for this.

The act of registering to vote in itself is not a deportable offense. In order to be considered deportable, USCIS must show that the non-citzen knowingly and willfully misrepresented themself as a US citizen.

http://www.immig-chicago.com/clientuploads/pdf/VotingAndCitizenship.pdf
 
The act of registering to vote in itself is not a deportable offense. In order to be considered deportable, USCIS must show that the non-citzen knowingly and willfully misrepresented themself as a US citizen.

http://www.immig-chicago.com/clientuploads/pdf/VotingAndCitizenship.pdf

It depends uon how vote registration works. If it requires a voter to
answer Yes to the question "are you a US citizen?" to proceed, then
how can one explain one did not do that unknowingly?

Who has the burden of proof?
 
I have a related question (Scary thought) when I was applying for mortgage they ask me to fill out the voter registration form, I told them I am not a citizen, they said its ok just check Not a US Citizen box. I did and they sent it off. Few months later I got a letter stating since I am not a citizen I cannot register, or something like that. Do you think I can get in trouble? do I have to mention it??

Is there a way to confirm that I never register to vote? or applied to register?

Thanks

I think you are perfectly fine. They told you you can not
register so they did not register you so that you never register to vote.

By the way, I don't know mortgage company can handle voter registeration
 
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If you sign a voter registration statement under penalty and perjury declaring yourself as a US citizen then you have little recourse in demonstrating it was done so unknowingly unless you can show you were somehow coerced or misguided by the election official. The burden lies on you to prove it wasn't done willingly and knowingly.
Since not all registration forms contain a sworn statement about being US citizen, the act of registering in itself is not deportable.
 
If you read N-400, you'll find the question about registration to vote is
Question 2 of Part 10 A. General question but good moral character
is listed under Part 10 D. Good moral character.

So does a Yes to question 2 reflect bad moral character?
 
I would say it depends on if USCIS automatically interprets someone who registered to vote as a claim to US citizenship. The burden is on the applicant to show that it wasn't knowingly and/or that the registration did not include a sworn statement attesting to US citizenship.
 
It depends uon how vote registration works. If it requires a voter to answer Yes to the question "are you a US citizen?" to proceed, then how can one explain one did not do that unknowingly?
Some people don't understand English very well. I remember a case of somebody being denied citizenship (and I believe also ended up in deportation proceedings) as a result of an alleged claim to US citizenship. He said he didn't understand what he was signing due to lack of English knowledge. The court agreed with his position and said not to deport him, but also said that he should instead be denied for lacking an understanding of English, because naturalization requires competency in English!

In other cases, the "US Citizen" part is not a yes/no question, it is a phrase buried in the middle of a big paragraph of fine print so it's easy to miss it if you're not looking for it.
 
This is really funny.

The OP "mistakenly" registered to vote? Seriously!? Unless there are some serious language problems (which I doubt given these posts), this is simply inexcusable. The first question on voter registration forms asks if you're a citizen of the United States. If you had the wherewithal to immigrate to this country and go through the permanent residency process, you probably knew that you were not a citizen of the United States.

Anyway, off the soap box. Good luck with your appeal. Best case scenario, you can naturalize 5 years from date you registered (so this year). Worst case scenario, they consider the entire time you were registered an "act" of being registered, so you have to wait until 2013.
 
The first question on voter registration forms asks if you're a citizen of the United States.
Not all voter registration forms have that question. In particular, some counties/cities allow legal noncitizens to vote in local elections.

The OP must have thought that registering before becoming a citizen was OK, so the registration would already be there when he becomes a citizen but he would not actually vote until becoming a citizen.
 
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Not all voter registration forms have that question. In particular, some counties/cities allow legal noncitizens to vote in local elections.

The OP must have thought that registering before becoming a citizen was OK, so the registration would already be there when he becomes a citizen but he would not actually vote until becoming a citizen.

Even if this is true, I know for a fact that Los Angeles County registration forms (and all of CA for that matter), ask if you're a citizen and if you'll be over 18 on election day (they're boxes you have to check) ;)

In fact, if I remember correctly, the question is "Are you a citizen of the United States of America" YES or NO. Kinda hard to miss that one.

You must be a lot less cynical than me I guess.
 
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