landing experience

Thanks for the inofrmation. Could you please specify on how to declare the money during landing? Do I put the amount on B4E, goods to follow list?

I do not remember, since I immigrated a while back. I told the officer, he marked it and allowed me to pass. I handed that form to the customs officer, that's all. I do not remember the form number. The form numbers have changed since then, but this rule has not.
 
zerox said:
Hi Bigboy00,

Thanks for the inofrmation. Could you please specify on how to declare the money during landing? Do I put the amount on B4E, goods to follow list?


All your answers are here :

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/general/cmr/faq-e.html

12. Do I need to report electronic transactions (e.g. wire transfers) to the CBSA?
Only physical movements of currency and monetary instruments need to be reported to Customs.


3. I am physically transporting currency or monetary instruments that belong to me. Do I have to complete a form?


Yes. You have to complete Form E677 as follows:

Part A - Enter your name, date of birth, permanent address, phone number, and citizenship as well as the type of identification you will use, its number, and where it was issued.

Part B - Enter the names of the city and country the currency or monetary instruments depart from as well as the city and country where they are going (destination).

Part C - Enter the information about the currency or monetary instruments you are importing or exporting. For currency and coins, indicate the type of currency (e.g., U.S. dollars or coins, euro banknotes or coins), the amount in that currency, the conversion rate, and the amount in Canadian dollars. For other monetary instruments, in the "Country and name of currency" box, indicate the type (e.g., traveller's cheques, bonds), the issuer (name of financial institution), and the serial or identifying number. Enter the amount in that currency, the exchange rate, and the amount in Canadian dollars.

and here is the form ( fillable )

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pbg/cf/e667/README.html


normally all these forms are available at border post as well with customs officer
 
Landing fee refund

Air_Canada,
THis is regarding the landing fee refund (about $475) that the Canadian Govt. plans to issue for people who became permanent residents after May 1, 2006. I am a little confused about the process to request a refund and would really appreciate your suggestion.
1. I landed on June 25, 2006 which makes me eligible for the refund.
2. While landing, I provided a friend's Canadian address.
3. I returned to the US the very next day.
4. According to the instructions for the refund, people outside Canada should
complete the form and send it to the address provided for a refund.
5. Question is, should I complete the form and send it or is it likely to
be sent automatically (say after the promised 6 weeks) to my friend's
address in Canada or will it be mailed to my US address.
6. If I do have to complete the form, should I provide a US address or my
Canadian friend's address.? Sorry if I confused you...

Thanks!
 
Returning after two days

The papers of landing state" You should wait until you have your PR card to travel out side of Canada if you can't do this you will have to apply for a travel document before you leave Canada"
Please let us know on this issue.
Thanks
 
santex24 said:
Air_Canada,
THis is regarding the landing fee refund (about $475) that the Canadian Govt. plans to issue for people who became permanent residents after May 1, 2006. I am a little confused about the process to request a refund and would really appreciate your suggestion.
1. I landed on June 25, 2006 which makes me eligible for the refund.
2. While landing, I provided a friend's Canadian address.
3. I returned to the US the very next day.
4. According to the instructions for the refund, people outside Canada should
complete the form and send it to the address provided for a refund.
5. Question is, should I complete the form and send it or is it likely to
be sent automatically (say after the promised 6 weeks) to my friend's
address in Canada or will it be mailed to my US address.
6. If I do have to complete the form, should I provide a US address or my
Canadian friend's address.? Sorry if I confused you...

Thanks!

Since you have already landed , your only option to claim this refund is to be present in Canada and apply for refund which I think is difficult and not possible anytime soon.

Another option would be to ask your friend for another favor and use his address as corresspondence . ( send application through him using domestic post and get a check at his address ) .

More details here :

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resid-fee/faq.html#note13
 
billofempire said:
The papers of landing state" You should wait until you have your PR card to travel out side of Canada if you can't do this you will have to apply for a travel document before you leave Canada"
Please let us know on this issue.
Thanks

When you land , you 'll be asked the same question whether you are moving today permanently or going back to US after landing ?
You may or may not wait for your PR Cards and can make a U Turn and re-enter US. Depending upon your answer you 'll be asked to provide a address where they can mail your PR Cards.If immigration officer does not accept your address , your PR Cards will not be mailed but for all practical purposes you 'll become PR of Canada upon your landing day.

Now , for future travel to Canada , if you do not possess PR Card - you can use your COPR placed inside your Passport to enter Canada provided you are travelling by road and are using your own car. But for travel on a commercial carrier / airlines / cruise ships , they 'll not board you unless you show them either PR Card.
In that case you'll have to apply and get a Re-entry permit from any Canadian consulate ( Its just one way visa stamp in your passport )

In brief , if travelling on personal car from US on road you'll need either
PR Card / COPR+ passport

travelling from any other country you'll need PR Card or Re entry visa ( permit )
 
Air_Canada, thanks once again for the info. I'll ask my friend to apply. I understand it takes 6-8 weeks to get the refund check. Is that right?

air_canada said:
Since you have already landed , your only option to claim this refund is to be present in Canada and apply for refund which I think is difficult and not possible anytime soon.

Another option would be to ask your friend for another favor and use his address as corresspondence . ( send application through him using domestic post and get a check at his address ) .

More details here :

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resid-fee/faq.html#note13
 
santex24 said:
Air_Canada, thanks once again for the info. I'll ask my friend to apply. I understand it takes 6-8 weeks to get the refund check. Is that right?


I have no clue how much time they are taking to process refund claims.
 
Landing by AIR TO Edmonton,Ab,

Hi all and air_canada,

I am landing to canada net week by air.I have a friend in Edmonton,AB.So i am landing there.I am travelling on AP..Please give your advice or any input regarding Edmonton airport landing..........please respond
 
Landed in Toronto on Aug 3rd

We have landed in Toronto on the evening of 3rd Aug. We arrived here at 09:25PM. We went to Immigration office (it is on the way out), and completed the paper work in 25 minutes or so. My photo and my daughter's photos are not exactly correct, so they took new pictures for both us.

We have filled the custom form in the flight. As we bring less than $10,000.00 CAD dollars, it took only two minutes at the customs. As we are not moving to Canada at this time, we filled two B4 forms. On one form we put the things we brought with this (just 5 entries-> Cashier check, clothiers, jewelry(rings & chains) and camera), in the other form I have entered things for the future (furniture, sofas, electronics, Cars with VIN numbers) but the officer told us that, they need more info such as TV make/model, how many sofas/tables....etc. So she gave us custom office details and suggested that to conact that office just before moving here, so that they can record all the details.

we went to "700 Lawrence Avenue, Toronto, ON M6B 4L4 from the "http://www.ustax.ca/pdf/SIN.pdf", it is inside the Lawrence mall. This is the closest office from our hotel. This office number is 416-780-4100

We gave our friend's address for both PR and SIN cards.

We are coming back to USA on Monday evening.

Good luck!!!
 
Completed Landing process

Sree_Manikanta said:
We have landed in Toronto on the evening of 3rd Aug. We arrived here at 09:25PM. We went to Immigration office (it is on the way out), and completed the paper work in 25 minutes or so. My photo and my daughter's photos are not exactly correct, so they took new pictures for both us.

We have filled the custom form in the flight. As we bring less than $10,000.00 CAD dollars, it took only two minutes at the customs. As we are not moving to Canada at this time, we filled two B4 forms. On one form we put the things we brought with this (just 5 entries-> Cashier check, clothiers, jewelry(rings & chains) and camera), in the other form I have entered things for the future (furniture, sofas, electronics, Cars with VIN numbers) but the officer told us that, they need more info such as TV make/model, how many sofas/tables....etc. So she gave us custom office details and suggested that to conact that office just before moving here, so that they can record all the details.

we went to "700 Lawrence Avenue, Toronto, ON M6B 4L4 from the "http://www.ustax.ca/pdf/SIN.pdf", it is inside the Lawrence mall. This is the closest office from our hotel. This office number is 416-780-4100

We gave our friend's address for both PR and SIN cards.

We are coming back to USA on Monday evening.

Good luck!!!

We have completed the Landing process and yesterday we came to USA. Since we have all the paper work ready to show to the US immigration officers, I felt very confident all the time and ready to show any paper work they would like to see.

Good luck to all!!!
 
Need Help for Landing in canada on Expired visa

Hi
I have expired f-1 visa with valid i-94 card and currently i m on f-1 status here is my situation
my canadian immigration visa is expiring on oct 5th and i have already applied for h1 in usa to change status from f-1 to h1
is it possible that i can go to canada while my h1 petition is under processing if i get it before oct 5th then ok if not then what should i do
I have EAD card of f-1 OPT status working fulltime on OPT card
should i tell US-immigration that i have applied for H1 or just hide it
please suggest
Thanks



bigboy00 said:
See Canada Customs homepage, you will get all the info you want.

For your car, the duty depends on what car it is. If it is made in North America, then they will determine the cost and first cdn$10,000 will be tax exempt. The rest of the amount will be subject to the tax.

If the car is not made in N. America, say made in Japan, then the whole value of the car (cdn $$) is taxable.

For the cash you bring, it is not taxable if you bring it at the time you land. If you plan to bring the remaining portion afterwards, declare it at the time of landing to avoid any future tax related issues/complication..










 
B4 / B4a

:confused: Hi All,

Can you please tell me the difference between B4 and B4a Forms? I am little confused about when to use this forms but i am sure that this forms should be used when we are landing. :confused:

For example, At the time of landing, if I have only two items (Camera, $10K) in which form i should have to record these two items? Also I have more than 20 items that i like to take to canada when i move permanently, again in which form i have to record these items?

Here is my assumption about the forms, Please correct me:

B4 : record only those items which you have at the time of landing such as camera and $10K

B4A: record all the goods to follow items such as all furniture, tv etc

Am i right, gurus?

I really appreciate your help, thx

Ed
 
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munnaed said:
:confused: Hi All,

Can you please tell me the difference between B4 and B4a Forms? I am little confused about when to use this forms but i am sure that this forms should be used when we are landing. :confused:

For example, At the time of landing, if I have only two items (Camera, $10K) in which form i should have to record these two items? Also I have more than 20 items that i like to take to canada when i move permanently, again in which form i have to record these items?

Here is my assumption about the forms, Please correct me:

B4 : record only those items which you have at the time of landing such as camera and $10K

B4A: record all the goods to follow items such as all furniture, tv etc

Am i right, gurus?

I really appreciate your help, thx

Ed

I replied similar queries few days back :
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=220438



Use this link to get these 2 fillable forms
"goods to follow"
"goods in possession" forms right here and the good news they are fillable pdf.s many thanks to nik_amd for providing everyone with "fillable forms"

cic provides only pdf forms which were not fillable type




If I'm taking my camera and camcorder with me to canada while landing, and going to bring it back with me to US,should I specify those in "goods in possession"?

No , you 'll NOT put them under "goods in possession" . I understand that you are not immigratiing to Canada permanently and will come back to US . so put them in "goods to follow" list preferably with model # , serial # , value ( you can put approx. current days value or purchase value ) it does not matter to canadian customs as all goods for settlers are entered dutyfree.


Should I specify simple things like books,cd's,dvd's,kitchen items,etc in "goods to follow",if so how and in what format? should it be consolidated (ie., kitchen items) or must be listed individually?

take inventory of your home - include everything furniture , sofa ( even if you want to dump them later ) For loose items - Just estimate how many moving boxes you are going to have for each category linen , kitchen , toys , household , and write approx value against each $50-$100 approx.

specify furnitures , tables , chairs seperatlely
Use as many sheets of B4E form and do not try to cramp everything into one. should I specify serial number just for electronics?
preferred , more important is to put model and make


If I specify car in the "goods to follow" then should I make sure it is suitable for canada even for just listing in the list (or) do I need to check those only when I move my car?

you have to list all the cars now - suitable or not ! Most US Cars are ok

Note down model , color , VIN ## and value of your car and fill them up in a seperate "goods to follow" form.

Show this form to customs agent and he 'll will most probably will either sign that or put it in " goods in possession" list. (for me he did that ) This they have to do it because this form contains space where they specify " auto/ transport details "

Now this does not mean you have completed formalities of the car import into canada . there is another process which you 'll have to do it when you actually import it. This involves export procedure / clearance from US Customs as well. this you do it when you finally move and not now
Is there a max value($) for which I can include items in the list?

No , there is no max - min values - just give approx values on B4E forms and total them at the end of all the forms ( they made me do that )

How should I carry the proof of funds,if I'll be returning to US immediatedly within 4 days of landing? In some post it says Certified cheque,some say bank stmt,cash.......so how should I carry the proof of funds?

Clearly - cashiers check in USD is your best option - why take risk - just go to your bank and get a check in your name and bring it back and re-deposit it

Also take bank letter of funds available - you may not need to show them

Try to keep funds below 10k CA$$ ( in US $$ ) , else you have to fill one more form which is common to anyone who is travelling with anything in excess of this figure

Immigration officer will definately ask you funds and will have to put this figure in your COPR . FYI , My figure was $8500 USD for family of 3

Are they letting the ppl landing in canada back to US immediatedly.Because I read in one post where a person was not let back to US immediatedly after landing and was asked to come back to US only after he receives his PR card. How these kinds of suitations be avoided?

No one can stop you if you have valid US papers / visas. I turned back into US Border 2 hrs later and there were not any issues except they offered to renew my I94 ( $6 / CARD ).

For landing,can I take photocopy of the certificates,and other docs (or) should I take the originals?

They dont see many papers and may not need any thing from you except your COPR but its always advisable to carry your originals when you know you are going to stand in front of immigration officer of 2 countries
 
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Air Canada,

Thank you and I appreciate it. I have read your earlier post and reply, however, i couldn't able to figure out the basic differnce between the B4 and B4A forms? I would like to know, 1) which form should i have to fillup at the time of entery if have only two items. Can you please let me know.

Thx
Ed
 
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munnaed said:
Air Canada,

Thank you and I appreciate it. I have read your earlier post and reply, however, i couldn't able to figure out the basic differnce between the B4 and B4A forms? I would like to know, 1) which form should i have to fillup at the time of entery if have only two items. Can you please let me know.

Thx
Ed

I am assuming you are just going for landing and returning back in few days :

Fill up B4 Form ( goods in possession ) with your name and address and leave all spaces blank since you are only carrying stuff / personal belongings and bringing them back - you are not importing them at this time.

In this form however , there is a place for automobiles/ cars / vehichles which you might need to import later - Neatly type down details such as vin # , make , color , model , year of your cars on a seperate sheet and give it to the custom officer. He 'll most likely fill it up in B4 form ( as this is the only place in both forms where you have to specifically write about automobiles.

B4A FORM is used to allow duty free import of goods which are going to come at a later time

Now , Fill up as many B4A ( Goods to follow forms ) with each of your household items with their values and also grand total them at the end. You camera , camcorder will come in this list since you are going to import them later along with your other stuff.

You 'll have to take custom officers sign and stamps on these 2 forms , leave a copy with them and keep one for your records. Hence , make both of these forms in duplicate.

Since " Money $$ " is not "goods" it 'll not be mentioned in these 2 forms - If you are carrying anything more than $$10k Canadian , they 'll give you another form on the spot. If you wish to avoid that , keep your cahsier checks value below that.
 
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Air Canada,

Thank you so much for your detailed reply for my specific questions. I really appreciate it.

Have a good one.
Thanks again
Ed
 
air_canada said:
Since " Money $$ " is not "goods" it 'll not be mentioned in these 2 forms - If you are carrying anything more than $$10k Canadian , they 'll give you another form on the spot. If you wish to avoid that , keep your cahsier checks value below that.

air_canada

cic website says that for the total of 4 family members funds required is $ 18,895. can I take $10k in cashiers check and my bank statement?

$ 10K should be in CAD or US as I will be comming back to US after the landing formalities.

I will be in Canada for couple of days, I will be taking $200-300 CAD in cash. Do I need to inform this also?

Can you please repond to this? Appreciate your help in this regards.
 
prman said:
air_canada

cic website says that for the total of 4 family members funds required is $ 18,895. can I take $10k in cashiers check and my bank statement?

$ 10K should be in CAD or US as I will be comming back to US after the landing formalities.

I will be in Canada for couple of days, I will be taking $200-300 CAD in cash. Do I need to inform this also?

Can you please repond to this? Appreciate your help in this regards.



The rule at the borders say : Declare anything above $10k ( while crossing US , it is US $10 K and when crossing over to Canada , it is CAN $10K . The rule is "customs rule" for anyone and everyone ( even tourist ) . This amount includes all kinds of monetary instruments ( checks , cashiers checks , cash )



http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/money.xml

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4321/rc4321-05-12e.pdf



Yes , if you are carrying $200-300 and your total goes above CAN $10k , you 'll have to fill up a form.


Now , just to avoid standing in line and filling up additional form at customs office is bit of a pain , therefore , people keep the figure less than CAN$10k on both sides. ( CAN$10K < US$10K , always )



In case of people like you and me who are crossing into Canada for " Landing " , we have to go and stand in front of customs officer and get our " goods to follow " lists approved. So it does not matter much as far as crossing into canada is concerned.

but while coming back , if your total is above US $10k and all your US papers are complete and if you declare that you are carrying this check , then you 'll have to park your car , go inside the building and fill up additional form

Here is what I did : carried cashiers check for US $ 8500 ( family of 3) along with bank letter ( not the statement ! ) . the immigration offcer asked for funds and i told her US $8500 and she wrote it down on COPR and did not even bother to either verify the check or the bank letter. No additional forms for money were filled at customs officer - Nothing was decalred while returning to the US as amount was less than US $10k.

Normally for residents of US, it should be ok to carry less than required funds along with a bank letter for landing purpose.
 
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