Jobs of GC Holders and US Citizens only
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I agree with you. Labor unions could slowly 'kill' the companies .. Look at the airlines as an example.
I support the law that prohibits mass lay-off of people who have been in service for more than x years, while still allowing the companies to layoff people on an individual basis.
This will put responsibility on employees to keep their skills (technical, managerial, etc.) up-to-date. If the employees cannot adapt/adjust themselves to changes, they can kiss the company good-bye.
To udacha6 :
Every one here fail to comprehend what makes you think that any of the indians here made bad remarks on India. Please quote them. It seems that your comprehensive skills are very bad. Most of the Indians are very patriotic about their country (much more than Chinese or Russians). If you couldn't see that in this forum, that's your problem.
To Sairam :
You have to realise that your argument has no takers here. Most of it is either silly or naive. Ofcoure i was surprised that PatienceGC lost his cool and used words against you.
A few more points about O/S :
O/S is bad for american workers. There is no doubt that it is good for India and China. It's creating a lot of jobs there and our country will gain a lot of technical expertise. The only problem is, all that good will come at the cost of American IT workers, of which the worst sufferers will be foreign workers because most of the jobs that will vanish here are the developer jobs. My personal feeling is that the contractors will be the worst hit (based on observation at my client) by O/S and that's why i am worried. Inspite of knowing that India will benefit because of O/S, i still oppose it (i don't do anything to oppose it. I just don't like it) because O/S displaces US workers . I like Americans though i don't like US foreign policies. Most of you might have observed that Americans are very nice people and they don't deserve hardships because of the greedyness of the corporations. After a few years these corporations gleefully shift the jobs from India to
Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and other countries where the labor costs might be one fifth of that of India. That will be devastating to thousands of Indians who lose their jobs. I feel that we (indians) can definitely serve our country even if we stay here. See the affect of people like Zach Zazhariah, Bobby Jindal etc who can influence the American policies. I am sure that prosperous indian community in America can serve better to influence America than the prograamers of TCS or Wipro in India.
So i am not compromising with my patriotism. I just want some breaks on the corporations to prevent them from exploiting workers at their wish.
Every one here fail to comprehend what makes you think that any of the indians here made bad remarks on India. Please quote them. It seems that your comprehensive skills are very bad. Most of the Indians are very patriotic about their country (much more than Chinese or Russians). If you couldn't see that in this forum, that's your problem.
To Sairam :
You have to realise that your argument has no takers here. Most of it is either silly or naive. Ofcoure i was surprised that PatienceGC lost his cool and used words against you.
A few more points about O/S :
O/S is bad for american workers. There is no doubt that it is good for India and China. It's creating a lot of jobs there and our country will gain a lot of technical expertise. The only problem is, all that good will come at the cost of American IT workers, of which the worst sufferers will be foreign workers because most of the jobs that will vanish here are the developer jobs. My personal feeling is that the contractors will be the worst hit (based on observation at my client) by O/S and that's why i am worried. Inspite of knowing that India will benefit because of O/S, i still oppose it (i don't do anything to oppose it. I just don't like it) because O/S displaces US workers . I like Americans though i don't like US foreign policies. Most of you might have observed that Americans are very nice people and they don't deserve hardships because of the greedyness of the corporations. After a few years these corporations gleefully shift the jobs from India to
Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and other countries where the labor costs might be one fifth of that of India. That will be devastating to thousands of Indians who lose their jobs. I feel that we (indians) can definitely serve our country even if we stay here. See the affect of people like Zach Zazhariah, Bobby Jindal etc who can influence the American policies. I am sure that prosperous indian community in America can serve better to influence America than the prograamers of TCS or Wipro in India.
So i am not compromising with my patriotism. I just want some breaks on the corporations to prevent them from exploiting workers at their wish.
dsatish,
I guess what you fail to comprehend is that you don't even realize how your intra-Indian conversations on this forum sound to a foreigner. The fact alone that someone is constantly asking to ban someone else out because he/she made a political or pro/anti-Indian comment doesn't even surprise you anymore. I've never heard anything from TheRealCanadian about Quebec or their internal French/English disputes, but you guys just keep on going about how bad it is in India, about civil wars and how you don't want to go back there and that's why you are so opposed to outsoursing. Think about it yourself and see how other nations treat their national treasures and birthplace and you won't blame me for "failing to comprehend".
Regards,
Udaha6
I guess what you fail to comprehend is that you don't even realize how your intra-Indian conversations on this forum sound to a foreigner. The fact alone that someone is constantly asking to ban someone else out because he/she made a political or pro/anti-Indian comment doesn't even surprise you anymore. I've never heard anything from TheRealCanadian about Quebec or their internal French/English disputes, but you guys just keep on going about how bad it is in India, about civil wars and how you don't want to go back there and that's why you are so opposed to outsoursing. Think about it yourself and see how other nations treat their national treasures and birthplace and you won't blame me for "failing to comprehend".
Regards,
Udaha6
I don't see anyone humiliating their own country.
If someone say so .. he's a JURK.. he doesn't know the meaning of humiliation and open mindness..
I'll request him to read about DEMOCRACY ..
If to discuss openly mean humiliation then certainly I can say he's not from India and I can understand why he's talking like this....
If someone say so .. he's a JURK.. he doesn't know the meaning of humiliation and open mindness..
I'll request him to read about DEMOCRACY ..
If to discuss openly mean humiliation then certainly I can say he's not from India and I can understand why he's talking like this....
Hi compaqdb,
I did not pass any biased comments against China and Russia. It should have been clear to you that i am only reacting to the criticism of udacha6 who made a foolish comment to learn patriotism from chinese and Russians. Don't read the words in toto. Please look at the context and meaning.
To Udacha6 : Your reply only reinforced my opinion about you. You are so biased against indians. Nobody talked about civil wars in India. Also hardly any one talked "how bad the things in India were". Even if some one points that some things are bad in India, what's wrong with that ? You don't seem to understand the words 'personal opinions', 'openness' etc. It is clear from your postings that you came from a country which has never seen democracy or has very recently became democratic. Criticism is part of democracy. Some of us asked moderators to ban others because there are some guys here with one point agenda : to harass others. A vast majority of the people in this forum (i guess more than 75%) are from India (Go and see rupnet where people specify their countries). That's why India inadvertently comes into the discussions. If 80% of the people here were Canadians or chinese i am sure that Canada and China would have come into discussions very often.
Lastly, the fact that most of us don't like to goback is not because we don't like our country (how can you think like that when you yourself is trying desperately to hang in here while quoting that you love your country). We all came to this country to make money and till we reach our goal, we don't want to return.
I hate to post such a long reply to each and every criticism. I am not going to reply any more. I only request you not to rush to judgements and criticize others (It is your criticism of Indians that prompted me to attack your post).
I did not pass any biased comments against China and Russia. It should have been clear to you that i am only reacting to the criticism of udacha6 who made a foolish comment to learn patriotism from chinese and Russians. Don't read the words in toto. Please look at the context and meaning.
To Udacha6 : Your reply only reinforced my opinion about you. You are so biased against indians. Nobody talked about civil wars in India. Also hardly any one talked "how bad the things in India were". Even if some one points that some things are bad in India, what's wrong with that ? You don't seem to understand the words 'personal opinions', 'openness' etc. It is clear from your postings that you came from a country which has never seen democracy or has very recently became democratic. Criticism is part of democracy. Some of us asked moderators to ban others because there are some guys here with one point agenda : to harass others. A vast majority of the people in this forum (i guess more than 75%) are from India (Go and see rupnet where people specify their countries). That's why India inadvertently comes into the discussions. If 80% of the people here were Canadians or chinese i am sure that Canada and China would have come into discussions very often.
Lastly, the fact that most of us don't like to goback is not because we don't like our country (how can you think like that when you yourself is trying desperately to hang in here while quoting that you love your country). We all came to this country to make money and till we reach our goal, we don't want to return.
I hate to post such a long reply to each and every criticism. I am not going to reply any more. I only request you not to rush to judgements and criticize others (It is your criticism of Indians that prompted me to attack your post).