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Issue with my wife pregnancy,child birth certificate and US embassy requirements

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dadadada72

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Hi all,
I need some advices:
My wife is pregnant and expecting to give birth somewhere in september according to her Ob-gyn(doctor). We have to wait at least 2 months to receive an official birth certificate of the child and afterward we ll fill for his/her canadian passport which might take at least 4 weeks to be established. To sum up my child will receive his own passport after 3 months (that is how things go here in Canada).

The problem is that: According to previous experiences and based on our high case # our interview at the embassy should be held around september as well in Montreal, and my child wont have neither his birth certicate nor his passport !
I really anxious about this issue , dont know what to do and how the embassy will handle my case ?
I am planning to inform KCC about my wife pregnancy in the upcoming months.

Please any advice will be welcome...........................
 
In the event that a child is born after a visa is issued, the child will be admitted along with the parent(s) by CBP.

8 CFR § 211.1 Visas.

(b) Waivers. (1) A waiver of the visa required in paragraph (a) of this section shall be granted without fee or application by the district director, upon presentation of the child's birth certificate, to a child born subsequent to the issuance of an immigrant visa to his or her accompanying parent who applies for admission during the validity of such a visa; or a child born during the temporary visit abroad of a mother who is a lawful permanent resident alien, or a national, of the United States, provided that the child's application for admission to the United States is made within 2 years of birth, the child is accompanied by the parent who is applying for readmission as a permanent resident upon the first return of the parent to the United States after the birth of the child, and the accompanying parent is found to be admissible to the United States.

(2) For an alien described in paragraph (b)(1) of this section, recordation of the child's entry shall be on Form I–181, Memorandum of Creation of Record of Admission for Lawful Permanent Residence. The carrier of such alien shall not be liable for a fine pursuant to section 273 of the Act.
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In the event that the child is born before the visa is issued, Passport Canada advertises that it takes 10 business days at a Passport Counter (20 days via an agent) and express/urgent service for an extra fee is available in as little as 24 hours. SEE http://www.passportcanada.gc.ca/cdn/service.aspx?lang=eng&region=Canada
 
BigJoe5 said:
In the event that a child is born after a visa is issued, the child will be admitted along with the parent(s) by CBP.

8 CFR § 211.1 Visas.

(b) Waivers. (1) A waiver of the visa required in paragraph (a) of this section shall be granted without fee or application by the district director, upon presentation of the child's birth certificate, to a child born subsequent to the issuance of an immigrant visa to his or her accompanying parent who applies for admission during the validity of such a visa; or a child born during the temporary visit abroad of a mother who is a lawful permanent resident alien, or a national, of the United States, provided that the child's application for admission to the United States is made within 2 years of birth, the child is accompanied by the parent who is applying for readmission as a permanent resident upon the first return of the parent to the United States after the birth of the child, and the accompanying parent is found to be admissible to the United States.

(2) For an alien described in paragraph (b)(1) of this section, recordation of the child's entry shall be on Form I–181, Memorandum of Creation of Record of Admission for Lawful Permanent Residence. The carrier of such alien shall not be liable for a fine pursuant to section 273 of the Act.
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In the event that the child is born before the visa is issued, Passport Canada advertises that it takes 10 business days at a Passport Counter (20 days via an agent) and express/urgent service for an extra fee is available in as little as 24 hours. SEE http://www.passportcanada.gc.ca/cdn/service.aspx?lang=eng&region=Canada
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thanks bigjoe5 for your reply.
In case my child is born few days before interview at us embassy, i wont have the birth certificate yet, which doc should i have to present to embassy? bc we have to show up there with the baby
 
You can provide the documents for the baby later. So, the baby will get a visa when the documents are ready. The medical test and immunizations for the baby might also require his or her birth certificate.
 
Ah, this is v interesting.

Now, when did you get your 1st NL ?? and when did you.....
ok, ok....that's non of my business, I know things can happen ANY time!!


Anyways, you seems surely headed for a Sept. intvw, and the visa stamp date will be anybody's guess.
Best is if you have the intvw as early as possible in Sept and baby is born AFTER visa stamp. Then you will get the waiver w/o any prob at PoE.
It will be very interesting to know what will be the situation if the baby is born just before the visa stamp date!

Yes you will need to ask the embassy and I hope someone there will be humane (and DV knowledgeable) enough to understand your anxiety and set you up with a plan B.

Is this going to be your 1st child? My 'crazy' and off the beat idea is about an elective C section.
Don't get me wrong on this, I am not taking it light 'cos it is a BIG decision you 2 and the Dr need to make. I am just saying it is an option 'cos a C-Sec can be done I think after 32nd week(?), provided many other variables are just right.

But I sincerely hope that Uncle Sam will have his own helping hand for you.
Just my 2 c.

Best!

PS: For the birth cert, I think an official hospital record/letter will be sufficient.
(given the fact that they have flexibility on that aspect how one can prove the birth, they even in some cases accept just parents' sworn affidavits)
 
raevsky said:
You can provide the documents for the baby later. So, the baby will get a visa when the documents are ready. The medical test and immunizations for the baby might also require his or her birth certificate.
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If baby is born before parents' visa stamp, then baby need to be added and approved before 9/30 as well, I think.
What happen is if they want to do that and need time to arrange for baby's documents etc. I am pretty sure that the CO is not going to just print parents' stamps and keep open the case for baby's till last moment. This is dangerous for parents' DV prospects, per my understanding.(just due to the rare possibility that the 55k visas may run out late in Sept.)

Family DV units they always 'like' to print (I think its a system glitch they have) at the same time. (unless of course it can be set up as sort of an FTJ type process)

Just wanted you to be informed of that particular aspect as well.

Best!
 
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raevsky said:
You can provide the documents for the baby later. So, the baby will get a visa when the documents are ready. The medical test and immunizations for the baby might also require his or her birth certificate.
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thanks , i am running off time
 
BigJoe5 said:
You need to contact the Consulate in Montreal to make arrangements. Timely entry on the DV is critical. Your situation is a nightmare of timing.

SEE: http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/montreal.asp
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Your right bigjoe5, maybe it might be easier if my wife give birth in US on the midst of August through a planned birth, our private canadian insurance covers my family fully in case something happens in US, we yearly pay for that extra coverage. What do you think?
 
NuvF said:
Ah, this is v interesting.

Now, when did you get your 1st NL ?? and when did you.....
ok, ok....that's non of my business, I know things can happen ANY time!!




Anyways, you seems surely headed for a Sept. intvw, and the visa stamp date will be anybody's guess.
Best is if you have the intvw as early as possible in Sept and baby is born AFTER visa stamp. Then you will get the waiver w/o any prob at PoE.
It will be very interesting to know what will be the situation if the baby is born just before the visa stamp date!

Yes you will need to ask the embassy and I hope someone there will be humane (and DV knowledgeable) enough to understand your anxiety and set you up with a plan B.

Is this going to be your 1st child? My 'crazy' and off the beat idea is about an elective C section.
Don't get me wrong on this, I am not taking it light 'cos it is a BIG decision you 2 and the Dr need to make. I am just saying it is an option 'cos a C-Sec can be done I think after 32nd week(?), provided many other variables are just right.

But I sincerely hope that Uncle Sam will have his own helping hand for you.
Just my 2 c.

Best!

PS: For the birth cert, I think an official hospital record/letter will be sufficient.
(given the fact that they have flexibility on that aspect how one can prove the birth, they even in some cases accept just parents' sworn affidavits)
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thanks NuvF i appreciate your advices.
Below are my signature with all the informations, my first NL and so on...............................
we are lucky to be among the selectee and we dont want to jopardize this dreaming opportunity of obtening an american GC. Yes it ll be our first baby and my wife is the principal applicant, we are really thinking about a planned birth (c-section) before the interview, the chance of having the baby before interview is greather, or having the baby in US before september is the best solution, our canadian private insurance covers any birth outside canada...............
the timing is tuff
 
If baby is born before parents' visa stamp, then baby need to be added and approved before 9/30 as well, I think.
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True
What happen is if they want to do that and need time to arrange for baby's documents etc. I am pretty sure that the CO is not going to just print parents' stamps and keep open the case for baby's till last moment. This is dangerous for parents' DV prospects, per my understanding.(just due to the rare possibility that the 55k visas may run out late in Sept.)
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I am pretty sure that if you raise the question at your interview, they could issue the visa number for the baby and keep it up to a month, and they could process the visa for the baby just in one day. This is a rare situation, and they would do everything they could to help you, even issue the visa on the weekend if the baby gets the document on Friday night in September, and Monday is already October.
They could even physically put the visa stamp in October, retroactively to the end of September, provided all necessary conditions were fulfilled in September (like the document's issuance date was in September, and visa number obtained in September).
 
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BigJoe5 said:
How close do you folks live to the border? Can you both freely cross the border easily?
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yes we always cross the border (3-4 times/year)as canadian citizens to visit some family members who are us citizens. we never experience any problem.........
 
raevsky said:
True
I am pretty sure that if you raise the question at your interview, they could issue the visa number for the baby and keep it up to a month, and they could process the visa for the baby just in one day. This is a rare situation, and they would do everything they could to help you, even issue the visa on the weekend if the baby gets the document on Friday night in September, and Monday is already October.
They could even physically put the visa stamp in October, retroactively to the end of September, provided all necessary conditions were fulfilled in September (like the document's issuance date was in September, and visa number obtained in September).
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good idea ,all depends to the embassy............
 
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