green card for parents...history of family tie lies

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mai14cc

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I recently became a US citizen and would like to apply for green card for my parents. Over the years, my parents had lied about family ties in the US in order to get tourist visa to visit me. Specifically, they lied and said they have no relatives in the US when applying for tourist visa each time (several times). So, they've been able to visit me without any issue. However, my parents are now concerned about the impact of those lies on the green card application. They're concerned that those tourist visa application forms where they claimed no relatives here will lead to denial of their green card. Therefore, they would like to come here and start the green card process here. They believe that they have a better chance of getting the green card if they come here since their tourist visa applications from Taiwan probably won't be transferred here.

I have several questions regarding this. Is there any truth to this? What the best way to handle this? I really wanted to apply from where they are instead of bringing them here first. However, I don't want to risk them being denied the green card either. Please let me know your suggestion/recommendation on what's the best approach for them. Thanks in advance.
 
mai14cc said:
I recently became a US citizen and would like to apply for green card for my parents. Over the years, my parents had lied about family ties in the US in order to get tourist visa to visit me. Specifically, they lied and said they have no relatives in the US when applying for tourist visa each time (several times). So, they've been able to visit me without any issue. However, my parents are now concerned about the impact of those lies on the green card application. They're concerned that those tourist visa application forms where they claimed no relatives here will lead to denial of their green card. Therefore, they would like to come here and start the green card process here. They believe that they have a better chance of getting the green card if they come here since their tourist visa applications from Taiwan probably won't be transferred here.

I have several questions regarding this. Is there any truth to this? What the best way to handle this? I really wanted to apply from where they are instead of bringing them here first. However, I don't want to risk them being denied the green card either. Please let me know your suggestion/recommendation on what's the best approach for them. Thanks in advance.
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I am not giving any advice here. But some facts are here. It looks like they false filled facts in form DS 156. I heard that most of immigration related form USCIS keeps for 70 years.
 
Thanks for your post. I'm not sure if the form you're referring to is the right one. My point/question though, is that isn't all that information kept in Taiwan (where they applied for the tourist visa)? Therefore, applying for the green card from Taiwan would make them have to face the fact that they lied about no family ties here. Whereas, if they come here first with the tourist visa and start the green card process here, that information won't be on file at the immigration office here in the U.S. (unless they transfer all that stuff from Taiwan? do they do that?).
 
mai14cc said:
Whereas, if they come here first with the tourist visa and start the green card process here, that information won't be on file at the immigration office here in the U.S. (unless they transfer all that stuff from Taiwan? do they do that?).
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USCIS and DOS do communicate, and can transfer documents between them.
 
When the lies are detected, they can be permanently banned from ever entering the US. Their lies will - deservedly - come back to haunt them forever more.
 
The chances of them getting the green card are slim either way.

If they apply from Taiwan and get caught out for lying on their tourist visa applications, they will be denied.

If they come to the US on a non-immigrant visa with the intent of immigrating, they will be denied.

If I were in your shoes I would let them stay in Taiwan and take a chance that their consulate will not pick up on their lies.
 
mai14cc said:
Thanks for your post. I'm not sure if the form you're referring to is the right one. My point/question though, is that isn't all that information kept in Taiwan (where they applied for the tourist visa)? Therefore, applying for the green card from Taiwan would make them have to face the fact that they lied about no family ties here. Whereas, if they come here first with the tourist visa and start the green card process here, that information won't be on file at the immigration office here in the U.S. (unless they transfer all that stuff from Taiwan? do they do that?).
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Of course they have all the information, they know how many times they were here, when they arrived, when they departure, ohh please you can not think like that.
 
DS-156s are scanned and available for USCIS/ICE.

mai14cc said:
Whereas, if they come here first with the tourist visa and start the green card process here, that information won't be on file at the immigration office here in the U.S. (unless they transfer all that stuff from Taiwan? do they do that?).
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When does their visa expire?
Apply for visitor visa after expiry, stating the relatives on the form DS-156 correctly this time. They will be granted visa without much scrutiny since they are your parents.

Later you could apply for the green card.
 
greyhairduetogc said:
When does their visa expire?
Apply for visitor visa after expiry, stating the relatives on the form DS-156 correctly this time. They will be granted visa without much scrutiny since they are your parents.

Later you could apply for the green card.
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On the contrary. The whole purpose of them not stating that in the first place was because they could have been denied the visa.
If you tell them that you have family then they think that you intend to immigrate, which is cause for denial, according to USCIS.

Besides that, it would just take them back to square one, because they still lied on the initial application, which would be reviewed.
 
Unless its a issue with a specific consulate/origin country regarding visitor's visa guidelines. In general parents of Immigrants are given visitor's visa, especially if they are 60yrs old then hardly any scrutiny.

I applied for my parents without any issue and all of my immigrant friends have successfully applied for their parents.



BornintheRSA said:
On the contrary. The whole purpose of them not stating that in the first place was because they could have been denied the visa.
If you tell them that you have family then they think that you intend to immigrate, which is cause for denial, according to USCIS.

Besides that, it would just take them back to square one, because they still lied on the initial application, which would be reviewed.
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