GOT child before marriage and how to bring them

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Arc N Light

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hi,
i'm from bangladesh. I've got got my GC on august 2009. I had a relationship with a lady. we have two child. one's date of birth sep 2006 and another is nov 2008. I got my GC through my ma who applied for me as a unmarried child. i got my GC as a unmarried child of LPR. i come to bangladesh and got married that lady on march 2010.
i want to apply for them but some one told me i can't take my childlen with my wife. IS that true?
N.B. I had interview with US consulate on december 2006. on me DS-230 I didn't write down my baby's name. is that a problem for new application for them?
 
It will be very hard to prove that you have kids in Bangladesh without a wedlock, since it has to be processed over there and they are aware of the culture over there they probably will not buy your story of having kids without marriage and will even question your GC since you got it as a unmarried child of a LPR.
 
i want to apply for them but some one told me i can't take my childlen with my wife. IS that true?
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It's not true. You can file an F2A petition for your wife and children.

Since they were born out of wedlock, you probably will need additional evidence to establish paternity, such as a DNA test and/or proof of making support payments for them.

N.B. I had interview with US consulate on december 2006. on me DS-230 I didn't write down my baby's name. is that a problem for new application for them?
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That's a big problem, if USCIS decides to look back on your DS-230.
 
Oh boy!!! This is likely to give you grief. Your own LPR status will be vulnerable if the consulate decides to poke around. Since your immigrant visa was issued in Dhaka and it seems your children will be processed there too, it is more likely than not that your file may be referenced when your childrens' LPR visas are being adjudicated.

Arc N Light said:
N.B. I had interview with US consulate on december 2006. on me DS-230 I didn't write down my baby's name. is that a problem for new application for them?
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Arc N Light said:
hi,
i'm from bangladesh. I've got got my GC on august 2009. I had a relationship with a lady. we have two child. one's date of birth sep 2006 and another is nov 2008. I got my GC through my ma who applied for me as a unmarried child. i got my GC as a unmarried child of LPR. i come to bangladesh and got married that lady on march 2010.
i want to apply for them but some one told me i can't take my childlen with my wife. IS that true?
N.B. I had interview with US consulate on december 2006. on me DS-230 I didn't write down my baby's name. is that a problem for new application for them?
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The key question in your case is why you didn't inform the US Consulate that you have a child when your visa was adjudicated in Dec 2006? Your child was born in Sept 2006, which means you couldn't have claimed you didn't have any child? Moreover, another child in 2008, which is rather puzzling to me. Your category was unmarried child, not unmarried child with no children (cause such category doesn't exist), which means your children would have been fine, because USCIS laws doesn't prohibit someone from having kids out of wedlock. You are likely to face rock and roll music with USCIS when you sponsor your children, because they could have been added to your petition years ago.
 
@ namecheckvictim; it's true. but it is also truth that for keeping my case valid i didn't marry her. but we lived as a husband wife ( so called live-together). every body thought that we are married but in reality we were not. any way i know i made mistake as i did not inform i had a child on DS-230. knowing this problem what to do? how can i solve this prob? is there any way out of this complexity?
please help me.
 
All you can do is apply and hope that USCIS or the consulate won't make an issue out of it. It's not a material fact, because it wouldn't have affected your approval if you had no children or 1 child or 10 children, so you won't lose your green card for it and hopefully they won't give you too much trouble over it.

Did you think your GC wouldn't be approved if you listed the child?
 
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@ namecheckvictim; it's true. but it is also truth that for keeping my case valid i didn't marry her. but we lived as a husband wife ( so called live-together). every body thought that we are married but in reality we were not. any way i know i made mistake as i did not inform i had a child on DS-230. knowing this problem what to do? how can i solve this prob? is there any way out of this complexity?
please help me.
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A lot of people do the Nikah a religious ceremony and do not have a marriage registered with any civil authority, they are married religiously but not legally, i understand you did'nt wanted to jeopardize your GC by disclosing a wife but now this has came back to bite you.
 
namecheckvictim said:
A lot of people do the Nikah a religious ceremony and do not have a marriage registered with any civil authority, they are married religiously but not legally, i understand you did'nt wanted to jeopardize your GC by disclosing a wife but now this has came back to bite you.
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Name,

Can you educate the rest of us on the Nikah ceremony? I am all for exposing people to new information, which helps cure their ignorance. I don't know anything about this Nikah business and be my professor here. The OP has serious problems because he had the benefits of marriage, without the ring and neglected to focus on his children and wife-to-be in the immigration process. All that he needed to do, was to tell US Consulate that he and his girlfriend have been burning the mattress, which has resulted in the birth of two beautiful kids, but they ARE NOT MARRIED YET. I believe he misunderstood US consulate to also be the avatar of moral uprightness regarding children outside marriage, but such things happen in US communities everyday. All that he has to do is to file and hope something bad doesn't happen to his green card.
 
Al,

When a ceremony is performed without a Marriage license been issued prior to the ceremony it does not create a legal union but religiously you are considered Married or a Nikah ( A Muslim Ceremony ) or having your I DO'S in a church without a marriage license would be the same thing, now having kids out of a wedlock is no big deal here in US, But in this case the OP is talking about Bangladesh where having kids out of a wedlock will earn you a sentence of being stoned to death and is a total no no, obviously the US embassy in Bangladesh is fully aware of the cultural setting over there and will clearly see that this guy did not disclose his marriage to obtain his GC under a unmarried child of a LPR.
I think if he takes the approach of a religious marriage he can avoid the wrath of the US embassy in Bangladesh and go ahead and now create a legal marriage duly registered by the concerned authorities at this time he will do fine, as far is kids are concerned, not disclosing is bad but he should come clean with it now and claim ignorance, the worse the embassy can make him do is to get a DNA test but if they get a wind of not declaring marriage solely to gain a immigration benefit they WILL NOT move on his case.
 
@namecheckvictim; you know a lot of muslim marriage; but if i did that the US embassy would told me no matter what you are married whether it is registered or not; then i won't----may be i won't get visa. thinking these complexity i didn't get married that time. "Bangladesh where having kids out of a wedlock will earn you a sentence of being stoned to death" it is in once sense true in case of remote village but not true in the town/ CITY. cause if both of child parents says that the child is our no body ask for marriage certificates. same thing happen to us no body never ask us whether we married or not. In city people are busy no body has time to ask for marriage certificate. I think what i did wrong, is i did not write down my child name in DS-230 form. it is true that i thought they will asked so many ques about child and marriage and so on.
I can do all the test DNA or whatever but if the US consulate thought i did it to take benefit then the would not move the file..... is it not the right answer that i did not get married cause i had a pending file F2B in US consulate and they took long 12 years to finalize it. we lived as a husband wife without marriage for the ****en petition. though it is not legal in bangladesh but we had to for the ****en petition. what can i say?....... is it not logical and true answer? what you say? just say them clearly on the interview. please give me your opinion.
 
I feel your pain, now they might get itched and think you fooled the system but at the end of the day lawfully you do NOT have a legal marriage so they have to live with it.
I am telling you that by personal experience as my brother went through the same thing, he had a religious ceremony (Nikah) done in US and his reasons were that his divorce from his previous wife took little longer than expected and he could not have had a legal marriage with a marriage license and went that route. When he applied for his Citizenship later they asked about the 2nd marriage done before the divorce was finalized and he provided a sworn affidavit that it was a religious marriage and that is not considered a legal marriage, I am sure they probably investigated this and were not able to find a marriage license issued and granted his citizenship.

A lot of people do religious marriages in US because some have a pension coming from previous spouse and some because of property and money matters etc.

Almost all States in the US do not recognize a marriage performed not pursuant to a License being issued to be a legal marriage.

I think you should tell them the truth, they might not believe it initially and think that you are pulling a fast one on them but atleast you will be telling them the truth and will have nothing to hide, they might or might not give you some grief but at the end even if they investigate you were not married anyway, so let them do what they want to do but do not lie no matter what.

Best of luck.
 
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@namecheckvictim, thanks for the information. i want to do that; no matter what tell the truth. lets hope for the best.
 
According to the U.S. State Department regarding Bangladesh:

Marriage Certificate

Available. According to Bangladeshi civil law, all marriages in Bangladesh require registration with the appropriate Marriage Registrar. For Muslim marriages, the applicant should contact the Kazi office or the registrar who solemnized the marriage to obtain the marriage certificate and the Nikah Nama (Bengali and English version). Both the marriage certificate and the Nikah Nama (Bengali and English version) must be submitted to the Consular Section.

In the absence of specific Bangladeshi governmental instructions regarding Hindu/Buddhist/Christian marriage registrations, Embassy Dhaka accepts either of the following documents.

Marriage registration with the City Corporation: A marriage certificate issued by a City Corporation registrar office prepared on a standard, government-printed form.
Certification from a Priest/Church/Temple: A marriage certificate issued by the priest who solemnized the marriage or the administration of the Church/Temple where the marriage was solemnized. The format for these documents may vary.

The above documents must contain information regarding the wedding ceremony and the information concerning the identity of the person registering the marriage. Embassy Dhaka will not accept affidavits of marriage from applicants, relatives or friends.
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In Bangladesh, does the Muslim cleric register the marriage or is it left to the couple to handle the registration?
 
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