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I have not had very good experience with organizational agendas. But please feel free to try.
I have not had very good experience with organizational agendas. But please feel free to try.
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kashmir and others,
Have the core team debate it; meaning the organisations.....,
As far as a "Class Action Suit", by the nature of it, IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLICIZED so people can join...preferably at this stage so feedback becomes useful.
Also, what are the plans for filing this and where? Which district court? NOT ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME. In CA for example, it is much preferable, 9th ??
One is one, a hundred is 100X1 = 100,
a hundred times the power and resources, etc.
Also, what is the experience we have (Rajiv) in filing class action suits?? Rajiv, thanks for all the help, but these are certainly valid questions, that we need to provide some kind of transparent answers. We all want it to succeed, but this forum represents about 2-3% applicants and only about 0.1% of this group really know and understand what the hell is going on.
kashmir and others,
Have the core team debate it; meaning the organisations.....,
As far as a "Class Action Suit", by the nature of it, IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLICIZED so people can join...preferably at this stage so feedback becomes useful.
Also, what are the plans for filing this and where? Which district court? NOT ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME. In CA for example, it is much preferable, 9th ??
One is one, a hundred is 100X1 = 100,
a hundred times the power and resources, etc.
Also, what is the experience we have (Rajiv) in filing class action suits?? Rajiv, thanks for all the help, but these are certainly valid questions, that we need to provide some kind of transparent answers. We all want it to succeed, but this forum represents about 2-3% applicants and only about 0.1% of this group really know and understand what the hell is going on.
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May be we are no experts, but we do know where all the buttons to push are. We had filed (and won) a class action just recently about six months ago (not my best work, but it got the job done as best as we could). My own backgound includes managing complex litigation (just settled a multi-jursidictional law suit) that lasted several years.
Let us get one thing straight. I am not looking for a job that I need to discuss my resume. I know you have asked innocently, but I am nonetheless irked by your questioning my qualifications. I do have a practice to attend to. You folks have a better law firm in mind, go with my blessings.
I will file when I am good and ready after having reviewed all possible legal angles. We have little enough to hang our hats on, but I will try anyway. DC is the natural forum as far as I am concerned.
May be we are no experts, but we do know where all the buttons to push are. We had filed (and won) a class action just recently about six months ago (not my best work, but it got the job done as best as we could). My own backgound includes managing complex litigation (just settled a multi-jursidictional law suit) that lasted several years.
Let us get one thing straight. I am not looking for a job that I need to discuss my resume. I know you have asked innocently, but I am nonetheless irked by your questioning my qualifications. I do have a practice to attend to. You folks have a better law firm in mind, go with my blessings.
I will file when I am good and ready after having reviewed all possible legal angles. We have little enough to hang our hats on, but I will try anyway. DC is the natural forum as far as I am concerned.
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Rajiv,
Nobody questioned your qualifications nor asked about your resume. I am an engineer, not a lawyer but I know that immigration law is different than an action law suit law. The latter may be bigger than people may think. I am just trying to help you and the community, or rather educate the community first.
All I was trying to say is GIVE US SOME INFORMATION, BASIC and then we can see better where we are going.
In other words, would you accept other immigration firms joining the effort?
Would you accept "other" people from anywhere to join as plaintiffs?
Finally, we know what organisations are all about..we are just trying to bring them aboard. We have no time nor power to re-invent the wheel and change the system.
Rajiv,
Nobody questioned your qualifications nor asked about your resume. I am an engineer, not a lawyer but I know that immigration law is different than an action law suit law. The latter may be bigger than people may think. I am just trying to help you and the community, or rather educate the community first.
All I was trying to say is GIVE US SOME INFORMATION, BASIC and then we can see better where we are going.
In other words, would you accept other immigration firms joining the effort?
Would you accept "other" people from anywhere to join as plaintiffs?
Finally, we know what organisations are all about..we are just trying to bring them aboard. We have no time nor power to re-invent the wheel and change the system.
hidden_dragon
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Rajiv
I couldn't say enough thanks for your effort. I haven't seen any lawyer even brave enough taking on the issue. I am sure cinta is asking innocent question. But in my humble opinion, the best lawyer one can find is the one that really cares about us. I have myself a very "good", experienced, knowledgable..lawyer, but there is nothing he can do about the 485 delay.
Trust is the most fundamental element of success here, we need trsut each other...
I couldn't say enough thanks for your effort. I haven't seen any lawyer even brave enough taking on the issue. I am sure cinta is asking innocent question. But in my humble opinion, the best lawyer one can find is the one that really cares about us. I have myself a very "good", experienced, knowledgable..lawyer, but there is nothing he can do about the 485 delay.
Trust is the most fundamental element of success here, we need trsut each other...
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I know.
But, we do not need anyone. Have you ever tried having two litigating lawyers try to come to an agreement. I have. The quickest way to mess this up even before we get started is to have too many cooks over the broth. If you folks want me to handle it, then it is my way. You will have to trust me.
Once again, it does not have to be me. For me, this is primarily an exercise in justice. But when it comes to representing a cause or clients, I am not democratic. I will not have you (or anyone else) vote over my professional judgment. Input is of course needed and welcome, but not veto (for instance from another lawyer or organization). These are the ground rules.
Most class actions are motivated by money, organizational agendas and sometimes a real sense of cause. I think ours is the last - cause. If I feel someone else can do a better job, it would be my pleasure to help and support them. But I dont see anyone out there. Am I open, you bet. Would I welcome us to take a backseat and someone more suitable handle this, absolutely.
I know.
But, we do not need anyone. Have you ever tried having two litigating lawyers try to come to an agreement. I have. The quickest way to mess this up even before we get started is to have too many cooks over the broth. If you folks want me to handle it, then it is my way. You will have to trust me.
Once again, it does not have to be me. For me, this is primarily an exercise in justice. But when it comes to representing a cause or clients, I am not democratic. I will not have you (or anyone else) vote over my professional judgment. Input is of course needed and welcome, but not veto (for instance from another lawyer or organization). These are the ground rules.
Most class actions are motivated by money, organizational agendas and sometimes a real sense of cause. I think ours is the last - cause. If I feel someone else can do a better job, it would be my pleasure to help and support them. But I dont see anyone out there. Am I open, you bet. Would I welcome us to take a backseat and someone more suitable handle this, absolutely.
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Oh. OK. Sorry, I am a bit short on patience in some matters.
Oh. OK. Sorry, I am a bit short on patience in some matters.
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You need not be sorry for anything. I think we can have a dialogue..and hopefully we will get somewhere. I used your e-mail address on MPI's Demitri's e-mail...he said he will talk to the Director. Does he have an agenda? Who cares! as long as we can push our problems. In any case, the team now knows atleast where you plan to file. DC. We need to do a research on this DC Court, so we know.
You need not be sorry for anything. I think we can have a dialogue..and hopefully we will get somewhere. I used your e-mail address on MPI's Demitri's e-mail...he said he will talk to the Director. Does he have an agenda? Who cares! as long as we can push our problems. In any case, the team now knows atleast where you plan to file. DC. We need to do a research on this DC Court, so we know.
Any lawyer or lawfirm hired by this community should provide basic information on the following :-
What is his experience in this field?
Has he handled matters like these before ?
How does he view the possible outcomes of this case?
What are our alternatives in resolving the matter?
Approximately how long will it take to resolve?
What are his rates and how often will he bill us ?
What is a ballpark figure for the total amount including fees and expenses?
How will he keep us informed of progress ?
What are the metrics of progress ?
People of this community need to know this, to trust the lawyers style or approach. We certainly do not want to be unhappy with him/her later. Too much is at stake here and people's feelings need to be considered.
What is his experience in this field?
Has he handled matters like these before ?
How does he view the possible outcomes of this case?
What are our alternatives in resolving the matter?
Approximately how long will it take to resolve?
What are his rates and how often will he bill us ?
What is a ballpark figure for the total amount including fees and expenses?
How will he keep us informed of progress ?
What are the metrics of progress ?
People of this community need to know this, to trust the lawyers style or approach. We certainly do not want to be unhappy with him/her later. Too much is at stake here and people's feelings need to be considered.
In my understanding,
our community's priority is to make the list of 5-10 plaintiffs.
Once a lawsuit being filed, everyone can join the class action.
We can see 2-3 candidates at each forum of service center.
Shall we finalize the list ?
-kashmir
our community's priority is to make the list of 5-10 plaintiffs.
Then, file a lawsuit as soon as possible.
Once a lawsuit being filed, everyone can join the class action.
We can see 2-3 candidates at each forum of service center.
Shall we finalize the list ?
-kashmir
I agree with Rajiv. Don't wait to get other law firm invloved. That gonna take forever!!
That's absolutly true. We should go ahead with Rajiv's effort. That's the most efficient way. If we do it good, others will follow.
Look at the previous law suit, they didn't get that much publicity, they won!
To get more lawyer involved at the begining is wrong way to go. just look at this board, people have some many different ideas, it already takes time to get agreement.
Even if there are more lawyers to follow, we still need someone in charge, otherwise the suit won't go anywhere.
hidden_dragon
Registered Users (C)
I think there are people missing the point in this forum. The long list qualification questions should be asked long time ago before the whole thing started. Not now rajiv have decied to file the suit for us becuase HE feels we have a base, w/o asking prepay him. This is forum is about work with Rajiv to file the suit. If anyone wants to search for the best lawyer he can find, go ahead but do it somewhere else, start another lawsuit. We are going to file our suit now!
To better communicate, kashmir, we should set up the core team now, working between general crowd and Rajiv and his team.
Rajiv, you have my support. Let's do it.
To better communicate, kashmir, we should set up the core team now, working between general crowd and Rajiv and his team.
Rajiv, you have my support. Let's do it.
I think your requirements are reasonable. But, my approach is unsuitable for those requirements. If there is trust, all else works out. I admit I am unreasonable. But so is our practice (sharing our knowledge with hundreds of people a day) and this forum. I have never been reasonable or "lawyerly" in my approach to work or life. In my opinion, if after losing a case you can sleep peacefully, you have no right to take the case. We must feel the pain of our clients. Professional objectivity is nonsense. If my doctor treats me like a piece of meat, I change doctors. If my lawyer looks only at my pocket, I need another lawyer.
I do not recall asking anyone for money. That is a nonissue. So far I have been offered about $20,000 between just 2-3 members of this community, which I have declined. For that kind of money coming from many of you, you could actually get the very best lawyers (whatever your criterion of "best" is). I will be glad to help whichever way I can. Just do not lose steam. Keep going. My warmest regards to you all.
PS In class actions, upon winning, we get paid by the govt (although at a relatively low rate).
smita_goyle
Registered Users (C)
Please Calm Down!!!
Dear Rajiv Sir and Friends,
Please Calm Down.
We have two important things to do
1) Looking for a suitable candidates(I-485 waiters) for filing the law suit
2) Fund collection/process related.
Core members could you please act as a firewall for some unnecessary postings.
Rajiv Sir We all have 100% trust and faith in you. Even we lose the law suit we will not mind, only thing is we fought and the others did not.
We donot need useless publicity, we are not going to contest anything political.
thanks
Sg
Dear Rajiv Sir and Friends,
Please Calm Down.
We have two important things to do
1) Looking for a suitable candidates(I-485 waiters) for filing the law suit
2) Fund collection/process related.
Core members could you please act as a firewall for some unnecessary postings.
Rajiv Sir We all have 100% trust and faith in you. Even we lose the law suit we will not mind, only thing is we fought and the others did not.
We donot need useless publicity, we are not going to contest anything political.
thanks
Sg
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I am calm. Just passionate. I will tell you when we need publicity. I have spent enough time in this country and this profession to make good, intelligent guesses.
Let us not firewall anyone. We MUST hear people. I need plaintiffs. In the meantime, I am reviewing the law for any thing I can firmly stand on. Personally, I feel we have enough grounds to file, but not yet enough for a resonable chance to win. I will be happy to explain my findings this far in a conference call.
I am calm. Just passionate. I will tell you when we need publicity. I have spent enough time in this country and this profession to make good, intelligent guesses.Let us not firewall anyone. We MUST hear people. I need plaintiffs. In the meantime, I am reviewing the law for any thing I can firmly stand on. Personally, I feel we have enough grounds to file, but not yet enough for a resonable chance to win. I will be happy to explain my findings this far in a conference call.
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Before using the term 'we' you should concur with others.
I have respect for Rajiv too, for what he has done over the time period in providing such a great forum where people can discuss ideas, and his help to people of this community.
Remember this : For this to be successful we need more support from the folks and that needs a transparent effort on everyone's part. I do not doubt for a moment that Rajiv will not provide us with what we need. He is a man of integrity.
This is not a profane discussion that needs to be firewalled, but an honest discussion that many have but have not spoken up.
In short your ideas have been received, understood and ignored
Before using the term 'we' you should concur with others.
I have respect for Rajiv too, for what he has done over the time period in providing such a great forum where people can discuss ideas, and his help to people of this community.
Remember this : For this to be successful we need more support from the folks and that needs a transparent effort on everyone's part. I do not doubt for a moment that Rajiv will not provide us with what we need. He is a man of integrity.
This is not a profane discussion that needs to be firewalled, but an honest discussion that many have but have not spoken up.
In short your ideas have been received, understood and ignored