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DV 2022 All Selectees (Consular Processing - CP)

Letitbeat said:
Hi everyone! I submitted the DS260 form in early June. After that (2 weeks ago), I renewed my passport and traveled to Egypt. Should I ask for unlocking my DS260 or should I explain this issue in the interview? I have heard that an accurate travel history and not updating your passport could lead to a visa denial.

I phoned to the embassy in Madrid and suggested emailing KCC and KCC answered me the following:

"Dear Applicant,

As we are not the Embassy or consulate we are not authorized to provide advice or suggestions regarding your visa process. Although we cannot provide you with any advice to assist you with your visa process you may find visa information on our website.

Please visit our site. A visa fee must be paid to schedule an appointment. General visa information is available online at no cost. You may also access the Frequently Asked Questions section of our site.

If you cannot find the information you need on our website due to the complexity of your questions, you may also seek information at...

Sincerely,

The Contact Desk Support Team"

My case is EU9XXX and it seems it will be current in January so it would be great if you could help me.

Thank you.
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IMO, there's no harm in requesting to unlock the DS260 in order to update the form (since you have more than one update). All well and good if KCC unlocks the form before your interview gets scheduled. And if your interview gets scheduled before KCC responds to the unlock request, you'll still be okay - as you'll have proof of your attempt to update the form (if it ever becomes an issue - which I doubt).

Inaccurate travel history or passport detail information leads to a denial only when the CO perceives such as an attempt at withholding pertinent information which doesn't appear to be the case in your situation.
 
Hi everyone,

For those that are members of the various telegram groups, do we have an idea now how KCC is working after the doc processing suspension? Are they still processing DS260 or they will just schedule based on CN and embassy availability? My CN is current since October but I submitted my DS260 in August so I never got any DR/DQ/2NL emails yet.

If they are still processing DS260s I hope those 5 workers that were responsible for the doc processing are helping now with DS260s to speed things up.
 
Vira said:
I was in the same situation as you: Dr - docs sent - waiting for dq. My case was current since October, so I received the interview date the same day Dr/dq thing was cancelled. So now you just need to wait for your CN to become current.
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Thank You for your reply. Yes, I see, but they at least could DQ people who got DR....now need to wait for CN to become current and not know if they receive or not docs. Interesting is there will be different who at least sent documents and did not get DQ and to those who never got DR before that rule change,
 
Guys as we’re all waiting for tomorrow’s bullet in edition, perhaps the one that’s going to answer so many questions about DoS’s plan of processing dv22 I have a thought that I’d like to share with you

Contrary to popular (Brit Simon’s) belief which is all about predicting slower cn progress, I think it would only make sense to make us all current like they did last year.

I mean think about it, now that the majority of processing work falls on interviewing posts themselves, it doesn’t make sense to still limit their work with visa bulletin, knowing DOS only pulled the plug on documents procedure in Kentucky with the sole purpose of expediting the process and utilizing as many visas as possible.

This I’m saying (assuming) exclusively due to the fact you cannot compare the amount of work US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine (couple of thousand of cases) for example has down the road and the one embassy iz Zagreb, Croatia does (+-20). Because of this (busier embassies) the european bulletin bar would definitely move pretty slow, thus affect negatively less busier posts. And if Simon’s pessimistic predictions were to come true, the process itself would still be partly illogical, especially now that DoS made a huge step towards being as efficient as physically possible.

Therefore, to me it would only be rational to make the whole world current, so that every embassy can be it’s own “boss” and take care of cases under their own schedule.

Only if we had this, the process would then theoretically be at 100% efficiency, therefore pushing as many cases through as possible, as DoS stated to be their goal, to heal the damage done by months already lost.

… anyways I’m just theorizing and being salty in 19k

Cheers!
 
miloslaw said:
Guys as we’re all waiting for tomorrow’s bullet in edition, perhaps the one that’s going to answer so many questions about DoS’s plan of processing dv22 I have a thought that I’d like to share with you

Contrary to popular (Brit Simon’s) belief which is all about predicting slower cn progress, I think it would only make sense to make us all current like they did last year.

I mean think about it, now that the majority of processing work falls on interviewing posts themselves, it doesn’t make sense to still limit their work with visa bulletin, knowing DOS only pulled the plug on documents procedure in Kentucky with the sole purpose of expediting the process and utilizing as many visas as possible.

This I’m saying (assuming) exclusively due to the fact you cannot compare the amount of work US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine (couple of thousand of cases) for example has down the road and the one embassy iz Zagreb, Croatia does (+-20). Because of this (busier embassies) the european bulletin bar would definitely move pretty slow, thus affect negatively less busier posts. And if Simon’s pessimistic predictions were to come true, the process itself would still be partly illogical, especially now that DoS made a huge step towards being as efficient as physically possible.

Therefore, to me it would only be rational to make the whole world current, so that every embassy can be it’s own “boss” and take care of cases under their own schedule.

Only if we had this, the process would then theoretically be at 100% efficiency, therefore pushing as many cases through as possible, as DoS stated to be their goal, to heal the damage done by months already lost.

… anyways I’m just theorizing and being salty in 19k

Cheers!
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Tomorrow's bulletin will not reflect the updated procedure. It was made before then. The effect will be seen starting from next bulletin.
One thing I've learned is to not predict the VB. It's just way complicated and just became more ccomplicated I think even the DOS will have a hard time deciding the VB. Also, the person is new.
 
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miloslaw said:
Guys as we’re all waiting for tomorrow’s bullet in edition, perhaps the one that’s going to answer so many questions about DoS’s plan of processing dv22 I have a thought that I’d like to share with you

Contrary to popular (Brit Simon’s) belief which is all about predicting slower cn progress, I think it would only make sense to make us all current like they did last year.

I mean think about it, now that the majority of processing work falls on interviewing posts themselves, it doesn’t make sense to still limit their work with visa bulletin, knowing DOS only pulled the plug on documents procedure in Kentucky with the sole purpose of expediting the process and utilizing as many visas as possible.

This I’m saying (assuming) exclusively due to the fact you cannot compare the amount of work US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine (couple of thousand of cases) for example has down the road and the one embassy iz Zagreb, Croatia does (+-20). Because of this (busier embassies) the european bulletin bar would definitely move pretty slow, thus affect negatively less busier posts. And if Simon’s pessimistic predictions were to come true, the process itself would still be partly illogical, especially now that DoS made a huge step towards being as efficient as physically possible.

Therefore, to me it would only be rational to make the whole world current, so that every embassy can be it’s own “boss” and take care of cases under their own schedule.

Only if we had this, the process would then theoretically be at 100% efficiency, therefore pushing as many cases through as possible, as DoS stated to be their goal, to heal the damage done by months already lost.

… anyways I’m just theorizing and being salty in 19k

Cheers!
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As much as I'd like for regions to go current (also EU19xxx here) , if you look in past years (before 2018 when documents were introduced), regions went current much less and much later, and that was in normal processing years. If we would had been in more normal conditions, it might have been possible, but given that we had 3 months with little to no interviews, these people will push the interviews later for everyone. We still don't have the ceac data so we don't know how many interviews were actually scheduled neither how many holes there are. But even making all regions current early won't solve the issue.
My reasoning is(with random numbers) : If today there are 500 cases current and assigned to x embassy but that embassy only has a capacity of 250 cases/month, and only 100 were interviewed in the past 3 months - there are 400 cases left unscheduled. That means that if the new visa bulletin asigns 200 more cases to that particular embassy, those cases won't be able to be scheduled before 2- 3 months (since it would take 2 months to deal with the 400 backlog) - someone with more knowledge please correct me if this is wrong.
So in this case even making all regions current won't solve anything, as the purpose is to issue 55k visas at the end of the year. It just means less higher numbers will have a chance at an interview.
 
I don't think that we can predict based on the previous years. We have a spreadsheet that shows historical bulletin numbers:


This year is specific as there is a three-month delay. So if we would compare to previous years we should shift statistics for at least a month or two.

They have reverted to the old process without DR/DQ that was used before 2018, which makes years after 2018 less relevant.

Also, only years that had a similar number of applicants could be compared. There were years with almost 50% fewer applicants.

But all that doesn't matter if we don't know, case density, success rates, response rates, derivative rates. Theorycrafting might start only when CEAC publishes data from 2022.

Sadly, all that doesn't matter as nobody knows how Covid will affect DV (lockdowns, travel bans, etc...)
 
miloslaw said:
Guys as we’re all waiting for tomorrow’s bullet in edition, perhaps the one that’s going to answer so many questions about DoS’s plan of processing dv22 I have a thought that I’d like to share with you

Contrary to popular (Brit Simon’s) belief which is all about predicting slower cn progress, I think it would only make sense to make us all current like they did last year.

I mean think about it, now that the majority of processing work falls on interviewing posts themselves, it doesn’t make sense to still limit their work with visa bulletin, knowing DOS only pulled the plug on documents procedure in Kentucky with the sole purpose of expediting the process and utilizing as many visas as possible.

This I’m saying (assuming) exclusively due to the fact you cannot compare the amount of work US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine (couple of thousand of cases) for example has down the road and the one embassy iz Zagreb, Croatia does (+-20). Because of this (busier embassies) the european bulletin bar would definitely move pretty slow, thus affect negatively less busier posts. And if Simon’s pessimistic predictions were to come true, the process itself would still be partly illogical, especially now that DoS made a huge step towards being as efficient as physically possible.

Therefore, to me it would only be rational to make the whole world current, so that every embassy can be it’s own “boss” and take care of cases under their own schedule.

Only if we had this, the process would then theoretically be at 100% efficiency, therefore pushing as many cases through as possible, as DoS stated to be their goal, to heal the damage done by months already lost.

… anyways I’m just theorizing and being salty in 19k

Cheers!
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I am not sure it works this way, miloslaw (but, everybody please correct me).
The number of cases per country are proportional to the number of applicants to the lottery.
Also, an higher case number, say in Zagreb, does not have to wait for all the lower cases to be processed in other busiest posts (as long as it is current)
On the opposite, generally, less busier posts are typically advantaged as they can cope with the workload faster.

if you are 19k, perhaps you should be current in March/April/May, so I believe you are ok
 
Guma77 said:
The number of cases per country are proportional to the number of applicants to the lottery.
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I don't think there is a proportion. There is a cap of 7% DV that can be awarded to a single country. But otherwise, the distribution of case numbers is not related to the country, only to the region. There are countries with a historically high number of applicants, but their case numbers would be spread randomly from low to high CN. If those countries hit the 7% cap limit, then it would mean that we would see only lower CN from that country from the moment they reach the cap.

Guma77 said:
Also, an higher case number, say in Zagreb, does not have to wait for all the lower cases to be processed in other busiest posts (as long as it is current)
On the opposite, generally, less busier posts are typically advantaged as they can cope with the workload faster.
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You are right, but we won't know the difference between which embassy is busiest and which has a bigger capacity for new cases. Less busy embassies might have fewer officers so their capacity to handle new cases might be lower compared to bussier. Here is the link where we can see historical numbers:


But regarding Zagreb, you might be right. Croatian nationals no longer need a US visa from October 2021, so that could free up their capacities.
 
miloslaw said:
Guys as we’re all waiting for tomorrow’s bullet in edition, perhaps the one that’s going to answer so many questions about DoS’s plan of processing dv22 I have a thought that I’d like to share with you

Contrary to popular (Brit Simon’s) belief which is all about predicting slower cn progress, I think it would only make sense to make us all current like they did last year.

I mean think about it, now that the majority of processing work falls on interviewing posts themselves, it doesn’t make sense to still limit their work with visa bulletin, knowing DOS only pulled the plug on documents procedure in Kentucky with the sole purpose of expediting the process and utilizing as many visas as possible.

This I’m saying (assuming) exclusively due to the fact you cannot compare the amount of work US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine (couple of thousand of cases) for example has down the road and the one embassy iz Zagreb, Croatia does (+-20). Because of this (busier embassies) the european bulletin bar would definitely move pretty slow, thus affect negatively less busier posts. And if Simon’s pessimistic predictions were to come true, the process itself would still be partly illogical, especially now that DoS made a huge step towards being as efficient as physically possible.

Therefore, to me it would only be rational to make the whole world current, so that every embassy can be it’s own “boss” and take care of cases under their own schedule.

Only if we had this, the process would then theoretically be at 100% efficiency, therefore pushing as many cases through as possible, as DoS stated to be their goal, to heal the damage done by months already lost.

… anyways I’m just theorizing and being salty in 19k

Cheers!
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I beg to differ although I totally get your point. I think Simon's reasoning makes more sense. The demand is what drives the VB evolution.

The demand before was measured by the amount of DQ'd people, which was low, which drove the VB to be very fast and even go current mid-fiscal year. (it was stupid of the DoS to assume that there was little demand just because KCC wasn't efficient in processing documents)

But now, just submitting the DS260 makes you ready for scheduling, which will make the demand very high, which makes sense because when you file your DS it means you are interested in immigrating. So the VB will go slowly from now on to ensure that the visas are distributed in the CN order.

This being said, only time will tell who of us is right.
 
I have received 2nl for Jan 27,2022.I was DQed by KCC Nov 10.The passport I used to apply DV isn't the same as one I have and valid now.I were supposed to change due to mistake on place of birth.To KCC i submited both old and new.The ds 260 has my old passport details.Will that create a problems during my interview..Or I should ask to unlock and update the details.In additional to that I need to change a host address to new host.Should I unlock again?
Also my police certificate will be six months old by Jan 22,should I renew and get a new one. What about form i-134,is that still needed to show during interview?

Thank you
 
stesa said:
I have received 2nl for Jan 27,2022.I was DQed by KCC Nov 10.The passport I used to apply DV isn't the same as one I have and valid now.I were supposed to change due to mistake on place of birth.To KCC i submited both old and new.The ds 260 has my old passport details.Will that create a problems during my interview..Or I should ask to unlock and update the details.In additional to that I need to change a host address to new host.Should I unlock again?
Also my police certificate will be six months old by Jan 22,should I renew and get a new one. What about form i-134,is that still needed to show during interview?

Thank you
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Congrats! When did your receive your 2NL? What CN? Regarding the passport, you should go to the interview with both passports and eventually notify your embassy before, as your case is no longer being handled by KCC. You can change the host at the interview.
There is no need to renew your police certificates, as for KCC they are available for 2 years, regardless of the expiration date. An affidativ of support is not required, but it would be highly recommended to have one, you can check out the document checklist I made HERE
 
Badan said:
I beg to differ although I totally get your point. I think Simon's reasoning makes more sense. The demand is what drives the VB evolution.

The demand before was measured by the amount of DQ'd people, which was low, which drove the VB to be very fast and even go current mid-fiscal year. (it was stupid of the DoS to assume that there was little demand just because KCC wasn't efficient in processing documents)

But now, just submitting the DS260 makes you ready for scheduling, which will make the demand very high, which makes sense because when you file your DS it means you are interested in immigrating. So the VB will go slowly from now on to ensure that the visas are distributed in the CN order.

This being said, only time will tell who of us is right.
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Right now, we can't say the demand now is entirely measured by ds260 submitted. The wording of the update implies that but we have seen some evidence that ds260 are being processed. It's possible that the demand is the processed DS260.

Another big question is the effect of unsatisfied demand. So, in AS Iran and Nepal make up about 80% of lower case numbers. But, the embassies are not working or working at a low pace. This means most of the current demand will not be interviewed and if they go by demand every month, then a high percentage of visas will be wasted. Note that many of other countries also don't function or don't have a convenient or even a designated embassy (Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan) as well and also covid in South East Asia gets really bad during May.
This will be a new phenomenon and needs to be seen what action they take. Hopefully they give aos cases and those resident in countries with functioning embassies a chance. This was an implicit part of their decision to go current for all in the previous two years or perhaps just a consequence.


Just to join the ideas about VB. If it were to me: every region has a certain quota, I would get the case number of the last selectee from each region who has a complete safe case number (i.e. within the first 55k) assuming everyone proceeds with their case, and make all case numbers below them current. Then, gauge the vb according to capacity and final demand for the summer.

But, let's what the new person decides now and what they do (perhaps to increase issued visa numbers for the judge) when Charles Kuck lunches the litigation in January/February.
 
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Sorry if this question has already been answered
I would like to know how long a birth certificate and criminal record are valid for embassies?
 
loalass said:
Sorry if this question has already been answered
I would like to know how long a birth certificate and criminal record are valid for embassies?
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There's no expiration date attached to birth certificate or court and prison records. Police certificate on the other hand expires after two years, unless the certificate was issued from your country of previous residence and you have not returned there since the police certificate was issued, in which case the two year expiration date will not apply.
 
stesa said:
I have received 2nl for Jan 27,2022.I was DQed by KCC Nov 10.The passport I used to apply DV isn't the same as one I have and valid now.I were supposed to change due to mistake on place of birth.To KCC i submited both old and new.The ds 260 has my old passport details.Will that create a problems during my interview..Or I should ask to unlock and update the details.In additional to that I need to change a host address to new host.Should I unlock again?
Also my police certificate will be six months old by Jan 22,should I renew and get a new one. What about form i-134,is that still needed to show during interview?

Thank you
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1. Attend your interview with both the old and the new passports.
2. You can update your host's address directly with the embassy at the time of your interview.
3. Police certificate is valid for two years, unless the certificate was issued from your country of previous residence and you have not returned there since the police certificate was issued, in which case the two year expiration date will not apply.
4. While some embassies do recognize the host system and do not require an I-134, a few do require it if the applicant appears to not have any significant savings of their own, or if the CO is convinced the applicant is likely to become a public charge in the US. In general, having an I-134 as a back-up financial document is always a good idea - it is part of being adequately prepared for the interview.

p.s. number your questions if you have more than one per post.
 
Sm1smom said:
There's no expiration date attached to birth certificate or court and prison records. Police certificate on the other hand expires after two years, unless the certificate was issued from your country of previous residence and you have not returned there since the police certificate was issued, in which case the two year expiration date will not apply.
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Thank you @Sm1smom for all
 
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