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Thanks for all ur answers.
I'm from Algeria, and i heard lot of people here saying that having a sponsor is kinda obligatory which seemed a bit weird to me, it means that if someone has the money needed but doesnt have any relative/friend in the US that is okay to be a sponsor ... well he can't get his visa, it wouldn't be fair.
But ya i understand that they need to see that u have money or some easy selling things like jewelery or a car .. etc not a house that u will probably not risk selling it for that.
 
First of all, thank you SusieQQQ for all your replies to our questions. It is worth a lot to those that are new to this (me included).
I have a follow-up question to the Public Charge matter.
If I were to have say 15-20k USD in liquid amounts, as well as being employed in my home country (distance based) until I get a new job in the U.S, would this be sufficient for a CO?
The company has offices in the U.S. as well but I'd be employed through my home country's office.
 
Also, when do you think EU13XXX should've received email about supporting documents? I submitted my DS-260 on 7th of June.

Many thanks
 
gmeteor said:
Well it depends on his country, but never heard anyone failing interview with having more than 15k usd at bank.

Btw unrelated question: Any idea of what happens if Trump extends EO for more than 90 days? Afaik VB months for dv don't change by law, so for example if there is stil Visa ban at september for immigration too, cutoff of that month will be shown as "0" (Which means higher numbers basically gonna lose a month)?
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The point was that the difference between $10k and $15k for a single person (if that’s what it is) is kind of meaningless. If someone is intending to find a job and get employed, they are probably going to do it before the $10k to support them at first through a few months rent/food has run out. If they are not planning to work, $15k isn’t enough. See my point? There is never “one right answer” to “how much is enough in a bank account“. (I guarantee you that a retired person with $20k in the bank and no other assets will be refused on public charge grounds despite it being “more than $15k”.)

So far people already in the US eligible to AOS are not subject to the ban so no it won’t be 0. Beyond that i don‘t know if or how KCC will take the ban into account in assigning VB numbers.
 
noname111222 said:
First of all, thank you SusieQQQ for all your replies to our questions. It is worth a lot to those that are new to this (me included).
I have a follow-up question to the Public Charge matter.
If I were to have say 15-20k USD in liquid amounts, as well as being employed in my home country (distance based) until I get a new job in the U.S, would this be sufficient for a CO?
The company has offices in the U.S. as well but I'd be employed through my home country's office.
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I don't really know how they’d assess that. I assume you would have some kind of letter from them confirming that. It certainly wouldn‘t be as good as an employment offer from a US company.
Some level of savings plus a clear ability and willingness to work is always your strongest combination.

Unrelated to DV, but being employed in a different country for a company with a US office could lead to issues regarding how that company deals with your tax for the US. I don’t know all the details of how it works but I understand it’s potentially an issue (for them) if you are not paid via the US office/on the payroll of the foreign office.
 
Like @SusieQQQ has said countless times, public charge is a grey area.

The CO needs to assess an applicants likelihood of requiring financial assistance from the government.

Factors like: working age (18-61), underlying health issues (that could render someone unable to work/require intensive care), past/current jobs held, education, skills, number of people financially dependent on the applicant, are all considered.

I’ve heard of someone still getting their IV denied (under public charge) despite having a US sponsor (I don’t think it’s common, but it’s possible). Having a sponsor only reduces the risk.

Unfortunately no one in this forum, or even the “best” immigration lawyer can accurately predict whether a CO will deem you a public charge or not. At best, it can serve as a gauge.
 
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TheKey said:
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I’ve heard of someone still getting their IV denied (under public charge) despite having a US sponsor (I don’t think it’s common, but it’s possible). Having a sponsor only reduces the risk.

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For family sponsored visas, sure it happens. They use the “poverty guidelines” as a minimum income. Some sponsors don’t meet the guidelines, others do but the CO deems a higher number is needed because of age/health of sponsored immigrant, and I've also seen a couple of cases where youngish (in the ones I saw, early-mid 30s) people who did not have a stable job history (in other words, can work but didn’t really seem to want to) were also refused despite sponsors. These and other factors such as the ones mentioned above by TheKey have been somewhat formalized in a “totality of the circumstances“ guide. The worksheet summarizing this is https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default...endix-TotalityoftheCircumstancesFramework.pdf
 
SusieQQQ said:
For family sponsored visas, sure it happens. They use the “poverty guidelines” as a minimum income. Some sponsors don’t meet the guidelines, others do but the CO deems a higher number is needed because of age/health of sponsored immigrant, and I've also seen a couple of cases where youngish (in the ones I saw, early-mid 30s) people who did not have a stable job history (in other words, can work but didn’t really seem to want to) were also refused despite sponsors. These and other factors such as the ones mentioned above by TheKey have been somewhat formalized in a “totality of the circumstances“ guide. The worksheet summarizing this is https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default...endix-TotalityoftheCircumstancesFramework.pdf
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Thanks for the link. It’s quite informative. There are some things in here that I was unaware of.
 
Just to clarify, the above referenced link as laid out is specifically for AOS processing, this is what is used in assessing form I-944 which is required for AOS. So CPers will see references to certain items they may not be previously aware of or are required to present during their interview, but CPers are encouraged to review and reference it to get an insight into how the COs may view their cases.
 
Sm1smom said:
Just to clarify, the above referenced linked as laid out is specifically for AOS processing, this is what is used in assessing form I-944 which is required for AOS. However, CPers will see references to certain items which they may not be previously aware of or are required to present during their interview, but CPers are encouraged to review and reference it to get an insight into how the COs may view their cases.
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Indeed, this worksheet specifically is for AOS applicants, but it does also help explain some visa refusals in various consulates that have been reported even since before this was official (since sometime last year) - none DV specifically that I recall, but public charge principles will be the same across visa types, if anything possibly more pronounced in the absence of an affidavit of support.
example, I had noticed with some interest the refusals for people not having a steady job in their home country - the worksheet notes as heavily negative “The alien is not a full-time student and is authorized to work, but is unable to demonstrate current employment, recent employment history, or a reasonable prospect of future employment”.
 
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I have been selected For further processing of my DV Lottery 2021. I have been allocated number 2121OC21**
I am not sure if this is a low number for the Ocenia region.
 
I have been selected DV2021 and AS18XXX. I’m in F1 and visa expiring in Sep 2020. I’m wondering AOS or CP would be better. And is I-944 mandatory? I have couple of credit cards and one loan. Never missed a payment but I don’t have any W2. Would that effect negatively? Please advice. Thank you in advance.
 
nick.s65 said:
I have been selected DV2021 and AS18XXX. I’m in F1 and visa expiring in Sep 2020. I’m wondering AOS or CP would be better. And is I-944 mandatory? I have couple of credit cards and one loan. Never missed a payment but I don’t have any W2. Would that effect negatively? Please advice. Thank you in advance.
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Your visa is expiring or your authorized stay is expiring?
 
nick.s65 said:
Visa expiring. I-20 valid until 2022. Thanks
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Your visa expiration is irrelevant unless you plan to leave the US and return in student status before you apply for a green card.
To answer your other question, yes i944 is required for AOS.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Your visa expiration is irrelevant unless you plan to leave the US and return in student status before you apply for a green card.
To answer your other question, yes i944 is required for AOS.
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Thank you very much! How about the credit cards and auto loan. Will that be an issue?
Thanks
 
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