DV 2020 AOS Only

[rabey]

I have another question, @Sm1smom: related to the medical exam/vaccination form (I-693). The Excel table says that the medical exam is valid for one year; however, the Special Instructions for the Form on the USCIS website states that the Form must be dated no earlier than 60 days before being filed. Sounds like a discrepancy unless I am missing something. Would appreciate your guidance. Thank you.

Medical exam is in fact valid for 1 year, but it has to be dated no later than 60 days by the time the USCIS accept your AOS package. So, your interview should be processed within 1 year from the medical exam date, but for DV process that won't be a problem. So you should do your medical exam may be coupe of weeks(or close to) before you planing to send the AOS package.

 

[Sm1smom]

Thank you! I want to believe in my interpretation but it may have an important flaw. In a hypothetical scenario, if someone is in the US on a tourist/visitor's visa on Feb. 22 and she returns back to her home country later, would the fact of being inside the US on the effectiveness date make her exempt from the Proclamation? It does not sound logical...

Would appreciate if you/moderators/members let us know if you come across any USCIS guidance/interpretation on these.

Nope, such a person will not be eligible for the exception once they depart from the US, regardless of when they did. And they can’t return on a NIV either to enable them process AOS because entering the US on a NIV with the preconceived intent of processing AOS in this case is a fraudulent misuse of the NIV, such a practice is frowned upon.

 

[Sm1smom]

Thank you, Britsimon - it does bring some comfort. Wonder though if you (or anyone else) had come across similar cases with regard to AoS dealing under the earlier set of banned countries, given that there are already about 2 years of experience so far.

I am further now starting to wonder why people from, say, Iran would apply for the DV if Iran is banned from the immigration visas? Are the applicants counting on a (very slim, I guess) chance of presenting a case of the US' strategic interest during the interview?

There are those from the banned countries who will qualify under the exemption also - they may already be in the US on a NIV by the time DV results get released, they may possess the passport of other countries not included under the ban, they may be hoping the ban gets overturned one way or the other - myriads of reasons as to why they’re simply not giving up and still submitting DV entry during the registration period.

 

[Sm1smom]

I have another question, @Sm1smom: related to the medical exam/vaccination form (I-693). The Excel table says that the medical exam is valid for one year; however, the Special Instructions for the Form on the USCIS website states that the Form must be dated no earlier than 60 days before being filed. Sounds like a discrepancy unless I am missing something. Would appreciate your guidance. Thank you.

No discrepancy. The spreadsheet under under the “AOS Package” tap, (Line 4, Cell C) also says:
“Form I-693 should be signed by the CS no earlier than 60 days prior to when the AOS petition gets filed - *click link to see Memo” just like the form instruction says.

The medical exam then becomes valid for one year after it has been accepted by USCIS (after filing).

 

[Magmag]

Do we need to include form G325a for diversity visa?

 

[Magmag]

What are the documents that should be sent in the original? I know we have the AOS Excel sheet, but just to double-check. Is there any document which should be sent in original form?

 

[Sm1smom]

Do we need to include form G325a for diversity visa?

The AOS process spreadsheet has the list of the applicable forms.

 

[sina.d]

Greetings,
thank you all especially mom for your high quality contents. I am a DV2020 selectee from Iran. I'll be current in March. I read the spreadsheet you put together, and had a question about the financial evidence. I'm a third year PHD student in CA, and I have an I-20 valid until sep, 2022 (basically stating that I will have financial support) I can provide tax documents, and paystubs showing an around 30K annual income. Also, I can provide a bank statement showing a $5K saving (stable for the last 4 months). I don'r know if that would help, but I also have around $20k credit line. My question is will I need affidavit of support I-134?

 

[Sm1smom]

Greetings,
thank you all especially mom for your high quality contents. I am a DV2020 selectee from Iran. I'll be current in March. I read the spreadsheet you put together, and had a question about the financial evidence. I'm a third year PHD student in CA, and I have an I-20 valid until sep, 2022 (basically stating that I will have financial support) I can provide tax documents, and paystubs showing an around 30K annual income. Also, I can provide a bank statement showing a $5K saving (stable for the last 4 months). I don'r know if that would help, but I also have around $20k credit line. My question is will I need affidavit of support I-134?

Line of credit is a bank loan, not your personal money, so it holds no weight in showing one isn’t likely to become a public charge.

Bottom line, if you can get an I-134, I highly recommend you get one.

 

[MNA2020]

Right now, I believe you know as much as we do regarding the expanded travel ban. The wording seems to be geared towards someone processing CP. There’s no word from USCIS as of now (that I know of) to let us know what their interpretation of the new Proclamation is.

Just to let all know that we've reached out to USCIS who said that, given the Proclamation is very recent, they cannot say anything on it yet...

 

[MNA2020]

First of all, what is you and your wife’s current status in the US? You’ve gone to great lengths to describe your children’s status, and no mention of yours. Currently “residing in the US” is not enough to make you eligible for AOS.
1. Your child’s current pending AOS petition has no bearing on yours. It is possible for one person to have multiple AOS petitions in the system at the same time - this is legally allowed.
2. If your kid is already a LPR (not PLR by the way), they can’t be included as your wife’s derivative.
3. You already got the response we recommend on the AOS process spreadsheet, so ......

@Sm1smom Need your advice as a follow up of my earlier post - I am quoting it with your response from May 2019.

Context: At the time of winning DV2020 (my wife is the winner), she listed me and one of our children as derivatives. Since then, our child has gotten his GC through a different channel recently. We filed DS260 (for myself and my wife) but I note that the form has our child's name, which we have not even opened/started. Since we filed DS260, we have got NL2 asking to turn to USCIS for AoS and pay DV fee. I just opened DS260 form website and my child's form is still there. We are about to send cashier's check for $660 for two of us.

Question: Is the fact that my child's DS260 form is still there going to present a processing problem and shall we take any action? For example, would USCIS - or KCC for that matter - consider DS260 not fully filed and will not transfer it to USCIS because it will consider the DS260 filing incomplete? Or, would they not process our case because the payment ($660) is not for 3 people (i.e. $990)?

I will try to reach out to KCC but wanted to seek the community's guidance as well.

 

[Sm1smom]

@Sm1smom Need your advice as a follow up of my earlier post - I am quoting it with your response from May 2019.

Context: At the time of winning DV2020 (my wife is the winner), she listed me and one of our children as derivatives. Since then, our child has gotten his GC through a different channel recently. We filed DS260 (for myself and my wife) but I note that the form has our child's name, which we have not even opened/started. Since we filed DS260, we have got NL2 asking to turn to USCIS for AoS and pay DV fee. I just opened DS260 form website and my child's form is still there. We are about to send cashier's check for $660 for two of us.

Question: Is the fact that my child's DS260 form is still there going to present a processing problem and shall we take any action? For example, would USCIS - or KCC for that matter - consider DS260 not fully filed and will not transfer it to USCIS because it will consider the DS260 filing incomplete? Or, would they not process our case because the payment ($660) is not for 3 people (i.e. $990)?

I will try to reach out to KCC but wanted to seek the community's guidance as well.

KCC may reach out and ask about the payment for your child, all you have to do will be to respond and let them know your child is no longer processing as a derivative as the child is now a LPR.

Your child’s incomplete DS260 will always remain as part of your wife’s KCC and will get transferred accordingly to USCIS, but it will not create an issue for the AOS petitions for you and your wife. Just leave the form as is - incomplete

 

[RahulSingh1]

Hello,
Can I pay DV administrative fee in a personal check? I am asking because on DOS website it says cashier’s check or postal money order.
And where should I put my information like DV Program Case Number, etc.? On envelope?

 

[Sm1smom]

Hello,
Can I pay DV administrative fee in a personal check? I am asking because on DOS website it says cashier’s check or postal money order.
And where should I put my information like DV Program Case Number, etc.? On envelope?

The website lists acceptable payment methods, you should follow that (official) payment instruction!

 

[asm_dv]

Hello,
Can I pay DV administrative fee in a personal check? I am asking because on DOS website it says cashier’s check or postal money order.
And where should I put my information like DV Program Case Number, etc.? On envelope?

1. Use either money order or cashiers check (from your bank) but not personal check.
2. On the memo part of either money order or the cashiers check write your full DV Case Number.
3. Do not write on envelope your DV case number
4. Include a Self Addressed Return envelope as well
5. Include a printed copy of the information asked for the administrative fee

 

[mmmb]

Hi,

Is it possible to send the AOS package without the Form I-693 (Medical) and somehow send it later or take it for the interview?
The reason I'm asking is that I want to send the AOS package before the Feb 24th to avoid the new public charge form.

 

[Ahmed111]

Hello mom @Sm1smom

I am a f1 visa holder and going to apply for AOS. I have a wife and one US citizen child and another child not citizen. Unfortunately, my income is low and I am not able to provide neither strong financial assets nor I-134. All what I claim is getting job after finishing my PhD program. I think of applying alone without my wife and my child. Then they may go back to our home country and apply later for green card (in case of I successfully adjusted my status). Do you think this would be better from the point of public charge inadmissibility? or it does not matter if I apply alone or apply with my wife and my child?

Thanks

 

[Sm1smom]

Hi,

Is it possible to send the AOS package without the Form I-693 (Medical) and somehow send it later or take it for the interview?
The reason I'm asking is that I want to send the AOS package before the Feb 24th to avoid the new public charge form.

Yes it’s possible to do so. But bear in mind, there’s a remote possibility your AOS package may erroneously be deemed incomplete by the Chicago Lockbox and get sent back to you

 

[Sm1smom]

Hello mom @Sm1smom

I am a f1 visa holder and going to apply for AOS. I have a wife and one US citizen child and another child not citizen. Unfortunately, my income is low and I am not able to provide neither strong financial assets nor I-134. All what I claim is getting job after finishing my PhD program. I think of applying alone without my wife and my child. Then they may go back to our home country and apply later for green card (in case of I successfully adjusted my status). Do you think this would be better from the point of public charge inadmissibility? or it does not matter if I apply alone or apply with my wife and my child?

Thanks

With this plan I assume your wife and kids will be departing from the US prior to your AOS interview considering they’ll automatically loose their derivative status once you become a LPR, or were you planning on their leaving after you become a LPR?

I honestly can’t tell you if the plan to apply alone is good or not, it’s your call. However, considering you’ll still have to declare your dependents on your form (and the DV administrative fee payment will clearly show you have derivatives even if they’re not currently AOSing with you), I’m guessing your CO will look at the totality of your circumstances in determining if you’re likely to become a public charge or not.

 

[mmmb]

Yes it’s possible to do so. But bear in mind, there’s a remote possibility your AOS package may erroneously be deemed incomplete by the Chicago Lockbox and get sent back to you

If I pursue this route, would I be taking the form into the interview or it has to be sent out separately?