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Agree, that it doesn't make a lot of difference.
Because even if the US wants to hire Americans first, the immigrants wouldn't be an issue for the next 60 days due to a travel ban. Even though they get a green card, they will not be able to come to the US. Moreover, in a lot of cases, they will not start their work immediately, they will have to integrate to society first. Those immigrants who are now waiting for a green card in the US also don't make any difference, because they can already take the job if they permission to work in the US.
Thus, in some minor amount of the cases, yeah, it makes sense, but overall, the benefits of the immigration ban are very small.
 
Does this effect people who already activated their green cards but haven't yet physically received the green card?
If you've actually activated your green card, then you have a green card. It doesn’t make a difference legally if it’s the temporary one via a stamped immigrant visa or the plastic one.
 
If you've actually activated your green card, then you have a green card. It doesn’t make a difference legally if it’s the temporary one via a stamped immigrant visa or the plastic one.

Thanks Susie. I flew in to LA then flew out the day after to activate it. Was meant to be leaving for my proper activation holiday today but obviously plans changed. Just lucky I was in a position to be able to do an in and out trip last month I guess.

Goodluck to everyone else <3
 
Are we talking about 60 business days or 60 days with weekends?
If with weekends ban will end on 21st June...
It means april/may interviews needs to be rescheduled for July-August...
I’m EU35k, I don’t think there are big chances for me, maybe September but lets wait and see.
 
Are we talking about 60 business days or 60 days with weekends?
If with weekends ban will end on 21st June...
It means april/may interviews needs to be rescheduled for July-August...
I’m EU35k, I don’t think there are big chances for me, maybe September but lets wait and see.

I think we're taking about 60 days with weekends.
I'm EU26k, but thinking the same about my case... Actually I think president can extend it for additional 30 days after those 60 days.
It's a bad year to win such a lottery...
 
No, or such little difference for it not to be deemed a matter of much importance, to the USA generally


I'm mostly confused about those of us who have visas but have not yet activated...
Yep. That’s our situation too. Waiting to hear about that one. Ours expires July 17th.
 
From NYT:
"About 50,000 permanent resident slots a year, issued in a lottery aimed at diversifying the immigrant population, would also be blocked under the new policy."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/us/trump-immigration-ban-covid.html

This doesn't clear much up, other than that it would be unlikely for the DV to continue into the future, and that further processing on cases awaiting interview or 2NL may stop... Hard to know until there's further clarification.
 
No, or such little difference for it not to be deemed a matter of much importance, to the USA generally


I'm mostly confused about those of us who have visas but have not yet activated...
If I’m reading it correctly, the wording of the order indicates you’d be ok, it falls outside the scope of the ban:

Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 1 of this proclamation shall apply only to aliens who:

(i) are outside the United States on the effective date of this proclamation;

(ii) do not have an immigrant visa that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation; and .....
 
If I’m reading it correctly, the wording of the order indicates you’d be ok, it falls outside the scope of the ban:

Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) The suspension and limitation on entry pursuant to section 1 of this proclamation shall apply only to aliens who:

(i) are outside the United States on the effective date of this proclamation;

(ii) do not have an immigrant visa that is valid on the effective date of this proclamation; and .....
Unfortunately I don’t have yet a visa, so...
 

actually, it affects many more than DV. The other obvious exclusions of significant categories are:
- families of LPRs (spouses and unmarried children are they ones they can sponsor)
- family of USC other than spouses and under 21 children (remember USCs can also sponsor parents, married children and their families, and siblings and their families. these categories alone account for many more than DV every year)
- non- health based employment based immigrant visas
 
actually, it affects many more than DV. The other obvious exclusions of significant categories are:
- families of LPRs (spouses and unmarried children are they ones they can sponsor)
- family of USC other than spouses and under 21 children (remember USCs can also sponsor parents, married children and their families, and siblings and their families. these categories alone account for many more than DV every year)
- non- health based employment based immigrant visas

in case anyone is interested in numbers

https://travel.state.gov/content/da...2019AnnualReport/FY19AnnualReport-TableII.pdf

In FY2019, for the classes of immigrants affected by this, the annual totals (including derivatives in these categories) were
- unmarried over 21 child of USC, 21k
- spouses and under 21 children of LPRs, 64k
- unmarried over 21 child of LPR, 22k
- married child of USC, 23k
- siblings of USC, 61k
- (non EB5) employment based 21k, no idea how many of these would be health related
- parents of USC, 63k
- DV, 45k
 
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in case anyone is interested in numbers

https://travel.state.gov/content/da...2019AnnualReport/FY19AnnualReport-TableII.pdf

In FY2019, for the classes of immigrants affected by this, the annual totals (including derivatives in these categories) were
- over 21 child of USC, 21k
- spouses and under 21 children of LPRs, 64k
- over 21 child of LPR, 22k
- married child of USC, 23k
- siblings of USC, 61k
- employment based 28k, no idea how many of these would be health related
- parents of USC, 63k
- DV, 45k
@SusieQQQ does the order effect only those out of the us? I am in the us, i still have a chance?
 
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