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Dear Mom,
Today we have received the denial letter from the USCIS and it says " For fiscal year 2017, 50,000 diversity visas were available. As of Sep 08, 2017, The Department of State announced that the level of availability of Diversity Visa has been reached for the fiscal year 2017. Unfortunately, the processing of your application was not completed before the maximum level of available diversity visas was reached the fiscal year 2017."

However, since we knew the denial decision, we went for walk-ins a couple of times, but they did not take us. We have an INFOPASS in Tuesday and we will see if they reconsider and update you.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Yes,they probably have more important things to do, like trying to figure out how to stay in the US legally or alternative options, than argue with you.

Why don't you upload a file? Most of them were told the information, same as you. If they can upload a file, so can you. You chose not to believe the copy of the letter that one person got sent. Selective much? Why should that person waste time trying to convince just you?

Why would someone come on here in March, post updates to their case every so often, and then lie that they were told visas are exhausted?

I'm glad to hear you have other options. I hope you are putting them into action. You can maybe understand why people who don't, like Vanessa who is now out of status, are too busy sorting out their lives to come back and argue with you
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Grateful516 said:
Dear Mom,
Today we have received the denial letter from the USCIS and it says " For fiscal year 2017, 50,000 diversity visas were available. As of Sep 08, 2017, The Department of State announced that the level of availability of Diversity Visa has been reached for the fiscal year 2017. Unfortunately, the processing of your application was not completed before the maximum level of available diversity visas was reached the fiscal year 2017."

However, since we knew the denial decision, we went for walk-ins a couple of times, but they did not take us. We have an INFOPASS in Tuesday and we will see if they reconsider and update you.
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Could you please kindly upload the letter erasing your details on it?
 
Grateful516 said:
Dear Mom,
Today we have received the denial letter from the USCIS and it says " For fiscal year 2017, 50,000 diversity visas were available. As of Sep 08, 2017, The Department of State announced that the level of availability of Diversity Visa has been reached for the fiscal year 2017. Unfortunately, the processing of your application was not completed before the maximum level of available diversity visas was reached the fiscal year 2017."

However, since we knew the denial decision, we went for walk-ins a couple of times, but they did not take us. We have an INFOPASS in Tuesday and we will see if they reconsider and update you.
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I'm sorry again to learn of your husband's "denial" which technically speaking is not quite a denial. They're just unable to approve due to visa exhaustion, which still sucks. He hasn't been found inadmissible.

The good news is you will still be able to sponsor him since you're already approved, it will take some time but there's hope for him. He just needs to continue to maintain his F1 status. And I suggest you start that process ASAP.
 
costacosta said:
Let`s wait

Could you please kindly upload the letter erasing your details on it?
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Could you stop asking people to do that. It's very insensitive, and frankly a complete nonsense. It is quite clear what has happened. People don't need to prove to you that they are telling the truth (when they are probably having a tough enough experience). You need to open your eyes.
 
Hi @Britsimon
I read your posts about when visa number allocates to AOSer. I had my Biometrics in May and my Interview in June. The officer told me In my point of view your case is done only we should wait for FBI check result. Do you think any place is allocated to me or not?
 
atm849 said:
Hi @Britsimon
I read your posts about when visa number allocates to AOSer. I had my Biometrics in May and my Interview in June. The officer told me In my point of view your case is done only we should wait for FBI check result. Do you think any place is allocated to me or not?
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No. Checking the availability of visas and allocating the visas to the case is the final thing they do once the case is fully approvable. So - unless there is a reversal of this position, it seems you will not be able to adjust status.
 
Hi @Britsimon , @Sm1smom ,
After our biometrics we had an interview at Houston FO, after which our case was put in RFE beginning of April. We replied to our RFE beginning of May and since then still waiting for a decision. With all the latest news which emerged this week, we do not have a lot of hope left.

We went to INFOPASS last month, where we were told that the Officer that has our case informed the front desk Officer that "our case is actively being processed, our concern is understood, and it is their intention to continue processing our case as quickly and efficiently as possible". Our only remote chance would exist if the Officer processing our case had requested visa numbers for us before they ran out. Do you think if such an outcome is realistic at this stage? We have scheduled another INFOPASS appointment next week.
 
ATRL said:
Hi @Britsimon , @Sm1smom ,
After our biometrics we had an interview at Houston FO, after which our case was put in RFE beginning of April. We replied to our RFE beginning of May and since then still waiting for a decision. With all the latest news which emerged this week, we do not have a lot of hope left.

We went to INFOPASS last month, where we were told that the Officer that has our case informed the front desk Officer that "our case is actively being processed, our concern is understood, and it is their intention to continue processing our case as quickly and efficiently as possible". Our only remote chance would exist if the Officer processing our case had requested visa numbers for us before they ran out. Do you think if such an outcome is realistic at this stage? We have scheduled another INFOPASS appointment next week.
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Requesting the visa is the last step of the approval process. The IO couldn't have requested the visa number if the case was still under review. It's possible for an IO to approve a case without updating the online status in which case the petition just gets the Welcome Letter and/or the GC in the mail unannounced, but that is rare. Keep us posted regarding the outcome of your infopass.
 
Sm1smom said:
Requesting the visa is the last step of the approval process. The IO couldn't have requested the visa number if the case was still under review. It's possible for an IO to approve a case without updating the online status in which case the petition just gets the Welcome Letter and/or the GC in the mail unannounced, but that is rare. Keep us posted regarding the outcome of your infopass.
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During our interview back in March 30th, we had 2 Officers present in this process. I vaguely recall one of them asking the other one whether or not he is going to request visa numbers for us while at the same time explaining to me why they would like to hold our case for review before making the final decision. Next day after that interview we received our RFE letters in mail. As I mentioned, we almost lost our hopes, but I will update back when we attend the INFOPASS next week.

DV2017 EU00013xxx
Chicago Lockbox: Dec. 13, 2016
NOA letter: Dec. 27, 2016
BIO letter: Jan. 03, 2017
BIO walk-in: Jan. 11, 2017
IL received: Feb. 19, 2017
Interview at FO: Mar. 30, 2017
RFE letter in mail: Mar. 31, 2017
RFE response sent to FO: May 03, 2017
RFE receipt confirmation: May. 05, 2017
Multiple INFOPASS sessions since May. 05, 2017
Current Case Status Online: Correspondence Was Received And USCIS Is Reviewing It
 
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Britsimon said:
To both of you. The AoS system is different to CP.

The visas for CP cases are allocated at the time of scheduling and the total number of visas for the month are handled by the embassy. So - if they are given 20 interviews for a month with 20 selectees and 10 derivatives, they will be holding 30 visa slots. If they approve 25, and two are on AP and 3 are refused they might use the 3 for allocating to other cases from previous months that have finished AP. They then return the unused visas to KCC at the end of each month.

Theoretically, if KCC could get those visas returned fast enough they could reallocate them, but, that is unlikely to happen in large numbers.

AMSWEB is the visa allocation system for AoS cases. I don't know if it can draw visas from KCC - but I suspect it gets visas based on DS260 submissions (which is one other reason why filing the DS260 is worthwhile).

When everything is completed on a case, the last thing they do is check AMSWEB for the visas, decrementing the available DV visas by the issued number. If the centralized system doesn't have visas available, they can't do anything. Mom, Susie and I have been "around" since 2012/2013. In that time we have not (I believe) seen this sudden stop on AoS cases. So - keep infopasses by all means and see if something changes, but we are in uncharted waters.
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Simon, I was wondering, if some miracle happens in the remaining two week, how would KCC "distribute" the available/recycled visas among AOSers? Will it be available to all AOSers in the country and the first FO that happens to log into the AMSWEB system will be able to grab it (i.e., on a first come, first serve basis)? Or, would they give it first to applicants that submitted the DS-260 earliest (I assume first submission, not unlocking and re-submitting)? I wonder if KCC can shed some light on that.
Anyways, I know it is probably a one in a million chance at this point, but I cannot stop thinking about the possibility of such a miracle happening by September 30th.
Thanks!
 
santassaf said:
Simon, I was wondering, if some miracle happens in the remaining two week, how would KCC "distribute" the available/recycled visas among AOSers? Will it be available to all AOSers in the country and the first FO that happens to log into the AMSWEB system will be able to grab it (i.e., on a first come, first serve basis)? Or, would they give it first to applicants that submitted the DS-260 earliest (I assume first submission, not unlocking and re-submitting)? I wonder if KCC can shed some light on that.
Anyways, I know it is probably a one in a million chance at this point, but I cannot stop thinking about the possibility of such a miracle happening by September 30th.
Thanks!
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It's a particularly interesting question because while you and a couple of others have been told their cases would be kept open till month end, some of the other reports have been that they've been told no visas and case closed - including at some of the consulates.
 
SusieQQQ said:
It's a particularly interesting question because while you and a couple of others have been told their cases would be kept open till month end, some of the other reports have been that they've been told no visas and case closed - including at some of the consulates.
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You are right, not sure about the deciding factor in the consulates, but it seems like it is kind of a subjective decision of the particular field offices. Who knows ...
 
santassaf said:
Simon, I was wondering, if some miracle happens in the remaining two week, how would KCC "distribute" the available/recycled visas among AOSers? Will it be available to all AOSers in the country and the first FO that happens to log into the AMSWEB system will be able to grab it (i.e., on a first come, first serve basis)? Or, would they give it first to applicants that submitted the DS-260 earliest (I assume first submission, not unlocking and re-submitting)? I wonder if KCC can shed some light on that.
Anyways, I know it is probably a one in a million chance at this point, but I cannot stop thinking about the possibility of such a miracle happening by September 30th.
Thanks!
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There is no way for any of us to know what will happen next. KCC are probably now aware of the problem, but AoS is a small percentage of the DV workload. They could probably "fix" the AoS problem with around 100 to 200 visas - but I doubt that is on anyone's mind, and no one is advocating for those cases. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of CP cases being left in the cold also - and KCC lacks the "system" to fix that problem. When we see the final numbers for DV2017, I suspect that the 50,000 limit will not have been exceeded by much at all - and some recent years with less dramatic and unfair endings will have given more visas. So - as I have said before, this is bureaucratic bungling, not political policy or intent. It's very sad.
 
Britsimon said:
When we see the final numbers for DV2017, I suspect that the 50,000 limit will not have been exceeded by much at all - and some recent years with less dramatic and unfair endings will have given more visas. So - as I have said before, this is bureaucratic bungling, not political policy or intent. It's very sad.
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...unless they were instructed to hard cap at 50k.
 
Dear Simon/mom/readers
We went to our FO on Friday and they easily told us we have bad news for you , we are sorry but there is no available visa , I talked to the supervisor and told him it's all your fault and your officer ( our io ) he didn't even know that our case has deadline , he was acting like they did all they could and told us I am sorry but there is no way, I asked him if there is any chance for us and he said unfortunately for uscis is done and there is no chance . Our security check was finished by august 2nd and interview was on august 28th , and till now the io even didn't request for our case from KCC , this is so sad and frustrating guys , the rookie officer totally ruined our lives, I don't know what happens to my status after this?! Am I gonna go back to the F2 visa again and I lose my ead and ssn automatically or I have to do something again. Please guide me if you have any information.
 
Imi1360 said:
Dear Simon/mom/readers
We went to our FO on Friday and they easily told us we have bad news for you , we are sorry but there is no available visa , I talked to the supervisor and told him it's all your fault and your officer ( our io ) he didn't even know that our case has deadline , he was acting like they did all they could and told us I am sorry but there is no way, I asked him if there is any chance for us and he said unfortunately for uscis is done and there is no chance . Our security check was finished by august 2nd and interview was on august 28th , and till now the io even didn't request for our case from KCC , this is so sad and frustrating guys , the rookie officer totally ruined our lives, I don't know what happens to my status after this?! Am I gonna go back to the F2 visa again and I lose my ead and ssn automatically or I have to do something again. Please guide me if you have any information.
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Did you apply for an AOS based EAD and did you use that to take up employment?
 
Imi1360 said:
Yes , I did
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That unfortunately means you no longer have a F2 status to fall back on, you invalidated that status when you used the EAD to take up employment. And now that your AOS petition has been denied, you also can no longer continue in that employment, your work authorization is no longer valid. If your spouse did the same thing, they no longer have a F1 status also. You need to talk to an immigration attorney for further guidance.
 
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