DV 2016 Administrative Processing Cases

[Josebalix]

Brits Am about to make 60 days on AP but the reason on the 221g form is Education Verification. I do not see any difference of Ap coz if verifying documents takes this long am wondering checking names and all other more complicated stuff running in the embassy.

 

[Josebalix]

It depends on the type of AP (the reason for the AP). If the AP was for a name check and there is a middle East connection (travel, birth, name) then AP seems to be taking around 5 or 6 months (4 or 5 months last year). However, there are always cases that will take longer, some will take less, and some will not complete within the fiscal year, so the point becomes moot in those cases.

Brits If i may ask can a Education verification AP not finish within the fiscal year?

 

[EURO2014]

Brits Am about to make 60 days on AP but the reason on the 221g form is Education Verification. I do not see any difference of Ap coz if verifying documents takes this long am wondering checking names and all other more complicated stuff running in the embassy.

Those are very different topics - name checks etc. are not run by US Consulate staff themselves, AP resulting from necessary 221g Education Verifications normally are (within same country under US Consulate responsibility). Hence resulting time lines are not connected in any way. If AP could for any reason not be cleared by September 30th, by law no DV IV visa can be issued.

 

[SusieQQQ]

Brits If i may ask can a Education verification AP not finish within the fiscal year?

Unfortunately yes. I am aware of a case from last fiscal year where the London embassy needed to verify a Portugese educational certificate. You'd think it would be pretty straightforward - the process is London embassy contacts Lisbon embassy to check the qualification meets the requirements - but they used up the remaining 3 or 4 months of the fiscal year doing it and the applicant in question missed out. Usually it can and does take a shorter time but it's not guaranteed to do so.

 

[Josebalix]

with the remaining 12 weeks Alem of Ethiopia has hit 200 days and more am hitting 2 months just to check education. its really frustrating. but since we cant talk to them we got to bite our tongues.

 

[EURO2014]

with the remaining 12 weeks Alem of Ethiopia has hit 200 days and more am hitting 2 months just to check education. its really frustrating. but since we cant talk to them we got to bite our tongues.

This is what I believe to have understood from your postings: you presumably interviewed with the US Consulate of your home country and presented equivalent to US High School degree, one of the few requirements of the DV program. The US Consulate obviously determined through 221g the need to verify the education documentation you presented, either because the degree may be from another country, the CO may not be familiar with and therefore will need information from originating country's US Consulate, or due to the fact that there may be uncertainty related to the degree you presented from your home country. Either way, the process is working as it has been designed to work. No need "to bite our tongues". There are exactly three months left, counting from today, to complete the AP process, so if your HS degree resembles anything similar to some type of standard, there should be more than enough time left to get it verified and confirmed accordingly. All the best!
PS: noticed you are from Uganda, DV interview in Nairobi - no surprises in respect to the 221g education verification process.

 

[EURO2014]

This is what I believe to have understood from your postings: you presumably interviewed with the US Consulate of your home country and presented equivalent to US High School degree, one of the few requirements of the DV program. The US Consulate obviously determined through 221g the need to verify the education documentation you presented, either because the degree may be from another country, the CO may not be familiar with and therefore will need information from originating country's US Consulate, or due to the fact that there may be uncertainty related to the degree you presented from your home country. Either way, the process is working as it has been designed to work. No need "to bite our tongues". There are exactly three months left, counting from today, to complete the AP process, so if your HS degree resembles anything similar to some type of standard, there should be more than enough time left to get it verified and confirmed accordingly. All the best!
PS: noticed you are from Uganda, DV interview in Nairobi - no surprises in respect to the 221g education verification process.

PPS: "For Uganda, you must have the Uganda Advanced Certificate of Education (UACE) A-level certificate with a minimum of one principal pass and one secondary pass out of four total subject exams."
Source: http://nairobi.usembassy.gov/immigrant_visas2.html

 

[SusieQQQ]

PS: noticed you are from Uganda, DV interview in Nairobi - no surprises in respect to the 221g education verification process.

Immigrant visa applicants residing in Uganda are processed in Nairobi so the embassy there should actually be familiar with Ugandan qualifications. So I wouldn't say "no surprise", there is clearly something that the embassy thinks is out of the ordimary about what he presented.

 

[EURO2014]

Immigrant visa applicants residing in Uganda are processed in Nairobi so the embassy there should actually be familiar with Ugandan qualifications. So I wouldn't say "no surprise", there is clearly something that the embassy thinks is out of the ordimary about what he presented.

Yes, I agree - standard education requirements for Uganda (and other countries) are clearly stated on US Consulate Nairobi's website, linked above.

 

[Josebalix]

Yes, I agree - standard education requirements for Uganda (and other countries) are clearly stated on US Consulate Nairobi's website, linked above.

Not really, when i presented my UACE, the CO asked me to detail the subjects and what i scored. In my explanation i stated the subject with the letter which represented the score like B and wat it stands for and how it is referred too for example a B means 5 points and a principle pass. so after she said AP and so on. Now surprisingly in June another Ugandan acquaintance went also for the interview and the CO was putting her on Ap that she needs to get an explanation from our examination body to explain why the Subsidiary pass is not indicated on the certificate as O but just the word. so the friend managed to explain to the CO and she cancelled the AP and approved the case. that opened my eyes on why the CO put me on AP coz as i mentioned O and i didn't mention subsidiary yet they both mean the same thing she probably got confused and wondered if the certificates are authentic.

 

[Josebalix]

This is what I believe to have understood from your postings: you presumably interviewed with the US Consulate of your home country and presented equivalent to US High School degree, one of the few requirements of the DV program. The US Consulate obviously determined through 221g the need to verify the education documentation you presented, either because the degree may be from another country, the CO may not be familiar with and therefore will need information from originating country's US Consulate, or due to the fact that there may be uncertainty related to the degree you presented from your home country. Either way, the process is working as it has been designed to work. No need "to bite our tongues". There are exactly three months left, counting from today, to complete the AP process, so if your HS degree resembles anything similar to some type of standard, there should be more than enough time left to get it verified and confirmed accordingly. All the best!
PS: noticed you are from Uganda, DV interview in Nairobi - no surprises in respect to the 221g education verification process.

Thanks Euro2014 I also believe that i wil be cleared. because the High school equivalence i have it

 

[EURO2014]

Not really, when i presented my UACE, the CO asked me to detail the subjects and what i scored. In my explanation i stated the subject with the letter which represented the score like B and wat it stands for and how it is referred too for example a B means 5 points and a principle pass. so after she said AP and so on. Now surprisingly in June another Ugandan acquaintance went also for the interview and the CO was putting her on Ap that she needs to get an explanation from our examination body to explain why the Subsidiary pass is not indicated on the certificate as O but just the word. so the friend managed to explain to the CO and she cancelled the AP and approved the case. that opened my eyes on why the CO put me on AP coz as i mentioned O and i didn't mention subsidiary yet they both mean the same thing she probably got confused and wondered if the certificates are authentic.

The US Consulate seems to be trying to figure out whether minimum requirements have been fulfilled, i.e. "one principal pass and one secondary pass out of four total subject exams". I have no clue what this even means (pass 2 out of 4 subjects and get a HS degree?!?), nevertheless the outcome of the AP inquiry will determine whether or not you are holding the equivalent to an US High School degree for DV purposes.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I have no clue what this even means (pass 2 out of 4 subjects and get a HS degree?!?), .

Well it's the A level system so it's different to many other high school systems. You can get into Cambridge or Oxford with just 3 A-levels, assuming the grades are good enough of course.

But yes agreed that the consulate seems not sure if what was presented meets the minimum.

 

[bblo]

150 days waiting here on AP. As I mentioned earlier I did not get any response from consulate asking if I should prepare to send my passports back before September deadline or if I should just forget about the lottery. 2 weeks ago I asked if I should think about booking 2nd medical as the one I have is about to expire in July (as I understand they are good for 6 months). There are only few doctors here allowed to do it and they need to be booked ahead of time. Also was ignored - no response.

 

[SusieQQQ]

As I said before, there is probably no response because they don't know the answer either.

 

[EURO2014]

150 days waiting here on AP. As I mentioned earlier I did not get any response from consulate asking if I should prepare to send my passports back before September deadline or if I should just forget about the lottery. 2 weeks ago I asked if I should think about booking 2nd medical as the one I have is about to expire in July (as I understand they are good for 6 months). There are only few doctors here allowed to do it and they need to be booked ahead of time. Also was ignored - no response.

This might be difficult to accept at this stage yet the only way forward for you at this time, in view of the fact that the Consulate is not communicating with you in any form, may be to simply wait until AP security clearance has been completed and you will hear back from the US Consulate in terms of passport and/or medical renewal etc. At this stage they simply would not have additional information or advice to share with you, which may be the reason they are not responding to your messages. All success!

 

[bblo]

I understand however I am about 4k CAD out (consulate fees, flight ticket, medicals etc.) already and want to know if I should be investing further or if it is some sort of joke. They should be able to advise me if we need to book another medicals.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I understand however I am about 4k CAD out (consulate fees, flight ticket, medicals etc.) already and want to know if I should be investing further or if it is some sort of joke. They should be able to advise me if we need to book another medicals.

How can they know that unless they know exactly if and when the AP would be resolved? Which they never do,until it is finalized.

 

[Britsimon]

I understand however I am about 4k CAD out (consulate fees, flight ticket, medicals etc.) already and want to know if I should be investing further or if it is some sort of joke. They should be able to advise me if we need to book another medicals.

It is pointless booking new medicals when you AP isn't cleared. With 3 monthe to go you just need to wait. There is nothing else to do.

 

[Josebalix]

I understand however I am about 4k CAD out (consulate fees, flight ticket, medicals etc.) already and want to know if I should be investing further or if it is some sort of joke. They should be able to advise me if we need to book another medicals.

Bblo Just wait i dont know anay further answer u need from this forum, am also on AP but am starting to enjoy the gamble. they do not answer and they will never until when they have a definate answer.lets keep the hopes high for the remaining 90 days