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DV 2016 Administrative Processing Cases

DV_hopeful said:
So no one has been cleared from AP this year?
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This is interesting. Do you mean that there has been nobody that is on the long track that has been cleared yet? I am sure some people have been cleared.

However, does anyone know of a person that has waited say 5 months and has just been cleared? Anyone??
 
DV_hopeful said:
So no one has been cleared from AP this year?
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Read back through the Thread, there are posts from DV 2016 selectees who have cleared AP. Plus you need to understand there's probably a whole lot of other people not in this forum who have also cleared AP.
 
bazsouthafrica said:
This is interesting. Do you mean that there has been nobody that is on the long track that has been cleared yet? I am sure some people have been cleared.

However, does anyone know of a person that has waited say 5 months and has just been cleared? Anyone??
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Name check AP is commonly taking around 5 to 6 months at the moment. There are examples of people who have cleared after that time BUT not all name check cases are the same and some are already going longer than the average. That is the nature of AP.

Now, yours, as we know, is entirely different as (we assume) it is not a name check AP case.
 
I don't want to sound like a pessimist (although its difficult not to be one after 120+ days in AP), but I read the entire forum and I do not see anyone cleared from AP. It would be nice if the moderators could update us on how many in this forum are in AP and how many were cleared etc.. Telling people to sit and wait is just not enough.
 
DV_hopeful said:
I don't want to sound like a pessimist (although its difficult not to be one after 120+ days in AP), but I read the entire forum and I do not see anyone cleared from AP. It would be nice if the moderators could update us on how many in this forum are in AP and how many were cleared etc.. Telling people to sit and wait is just not enough.
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You don't have to read the entire forum, you could just have read this thread more carefully and you would have seen people announce that they were cleared.

And as for "Telling people to sit and wait is just not enough.". Is that some sort of complaint that we (mods) aren't doing enough for you? What should we do? Should we call your embassy or KCC? They wouldn't talk to us and there is nothing they will be able to say apart from "they have no news", but would that make you happier? You do know we are doing this for free - right? And by the way - my post immediately before you gave you some pretty good information, but feel free to complain!

As for us producing stats on people in this forum - feel free to compile that information yourself. We don't have it. You have not been asked to register the status of your case anywhere with us, so we don't have some sort of master list of the THOUSANDS of people that come here. I really don't know what you expect us to do. And again - FOR FREE!

NO ONE knows how to predict AP - not even KCC or the embassy because it is (in some cases) out of their hands. AP is unpredictable. NO ONE knows the specifics of your case apart from the embassy and USCIS staff. So what exactly would you like us to do? The only valid general advice is "sit and wait". We can try and explain what might be happening (and we have), but we cannot possibly give you any better idea when no one has any idea.

I get that you are frustrated, but come on! Lashing out at people here won't shorten your AP. For sheez!
 
DV_hopeful said:
I don't want to sound like a pessimist (although its difficult not to be one after 120+ days in AP), but I read the entire forum and I do not see anyone cleared from AP. It would be nice if the moderators could update us on how many in this forum are in AP and how many were cleared etc.. Telling people to sit and wait is just not enough.
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Do you think the moderators have some form of access to all of the consulate and DHS information, as well as the time to go through the forum adding everyone up and then doing updates? It's up to people to post in this thread if they are on AP, and when they have cleared. From past years we see some people just stop posting, presumably they lose interest after AP has cleared but it's not like someone omniscient can post all the information out there. In the OC thread, each year someone takes responsibility for following the different people and updating the thread on who is in and their progress. Maybe someone in the AP thread can do the same, if they think the knowledge is important enough.

PS: I'm not a moderator, but feel free to google what the word means. I don't think "data slave" is part of the definition.
 
Britsimon said:
You don't have to read the entire forum, you could just have read this thread more carefully and you would have seen people announce that they were cleared.

And as for "Telling people to sit and wait is just not enough.". Is that some sort of complaint that we (mods) aren't doing enough for you? What should we do? Should we call your embassy or KCC? They wouldn't talk to us and there is nothing they will be able to say apart from "they have no news", but would that make you happier? You do know we are doing this for free - right? And by the way - my post immediately before you gave you some pretty good information, but feel free to complain!

As for us producing stats on people in this forum - feel free to compile that information yourself. We don't have it. You have not been asked to register the status of your case anywhere with us, so we don't have some sort of master list of the THOUSANDS of people that come here. I really don't know what you expect us to do. And again - FOR FREE!

NO ONE knows how to predict AP - not even KCC or the embassy because it is (in some cases) out of their hands. AP is unpredictable. NO ONE knows the specifics of your case apart from the embassy and USCIS staff. So what exactly would you like us to do? The only valid general advice is "sit and wait". We can try and explain what might be happening (and we have), but we cannot possibly give you any better idea when no one has any idea.

I get that you are frustrated, but come on! Lashing out at people here won't shorten your AP. For sheez!
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@Britsimon I was not lashing out.. that was not my intention, and I apologize if I sounded that way. Thank you for doing this for FREE, how nice of you.

But you don't have the right to lash out at me for stating my opinion. You are the moderator and you are the one responsible for setting a calm and kind tone in this thread. I am sure you understand how people can get frustrated and they come to this thread for some information because you guys are more experienced in this matter.

But You do not have the right to be give rude replies.

And giving statistics for a single year and stating the average waiting time would be so helpful, and so easy to do because you have been monitoring this thread from the beginning. And it would be very helpful to people under AP.

Dude, be open for constructive criticism.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Do you think the moderators have some form of access to all of the consulate and DHS information, as well as the time to go through the forum adding everyone up and then doing updates? It's up to people to post in this thread if they are on AP, and when they have cleared. From past years we see some people just stop posting, presumably they lose interest after AP has cleared but it's not like someone omniscient can post all the information out there. In the OC thread, each year someone takes responsibility for following the different people and updating the thread on who is in and their progress. Maybe someone in the AP thread can do the same, if they think the knowledge is important enough.

PS: I'm not a moderator, but feel free to google what the word means. I don't think "data slave" is part of the definition.
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@SusieQQQ WOW. I do not know if you have time or not, you only know that. I also do not know if you have access do data or not. Why do you guys lash out? Just tell me it would be difficult for you to do so, like what you just did. Politely.
 
Dude, be appreciative of whatever information it is you're currently getting here. If it's not enough, you're free to stop visiting the forum, it's not like KCC or the embassy will count that as a negative point against you.

The moderators are not 'data slave' to borrow Susie's expression. Stop expecting the mods to do more than what's already being done. With all of these high expectations of yours, I'm certain you're one of those who will stop visiting this forum once your case clears, except for when you have another issue you need help with of course.
 
DV_hopeful said:
@Britsimon I was not lashing out.. that was not my intention, and I apologize if I sounded that way. Thank you for doing this for FREE, how nice of you.

But you don't have the right to lash out at me for stating my opinion. You are the moderator and you are the one responsible for setting a calm and kind tone in this thread. I am sure you understand how people can get frustrated and they come to this thread for some information because you guys are more experienced in this matter.

But You do not have the right to be give rude replies.

And giving statistics for a single year and stating the average waiting time would be so helpful, and so easy to do because you have been monitoring this thread from the beginning. And it would be very helpful to people under AP.

Dude, be open for constructive criticism.
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You did sound that way - because it was that way! As Susie pointed out, the most recent example was only 2 pages back - and as for monitoring timelines and giving average waiting time - that was exactly what I did in the post IMMEDIATELY before yours!

When you are obviously critical and have obviously done NOTHING to inform yourself (contrary to your earlier assertion) you are going to get some "direct" comments. If you want to take those comments as rude - that's up to you.
 
DV_hopeful said:
Telling people to sit and wait is just not enough.
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My impression of this sentence was that it was both rude and demanding. If I am wrong, kindly explain what you meant by it.

And again: if the information is important enough to you, take some time, set up a spreadsheet, go through the thread properly so you don't miss cleared people again, and post the results. Do it again every week or two or when you see an update is necessary. I'm sure it will be appreciated by others. But don't expect the mods to sit there and do this work for the AP thread, and the AOS thread, and each regional/country thread, ...get it? People in each of those threads think their case is important. As I said before, some of them already do something about it.
 
Britsimon said:
You did sound that way - because it was that way! As Susie pointed out, the most recent example was only 2 pages back - and as for monitoring timelines and giving average waiting time - that was exactly what I did in the post IMMEDIATELY before yours!

When you are obviously critical and have obviously done NOTHING to inform yourself (contrary to your earlier assertion) you are going to get some "direct" comments. If you want to take those comments as rude - that's up to you.
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I mean, the very first post on this Thread has links to some past AP Threads which I'm certain this person complaining about the mods not doing enough never bothered to look at. When I created this year's AP Thread, I searched out those other Threads and included the links so that those on AP this year can have something to look at and get an idea of how long being on AP could possibly take. First he makes a blanket statement that no one has cleared AP this year. When told that's not true, he comes back to say he has searched the entire forum and hasn't seen any, when only two pages prior there is a report of a cleared AP case.

But then I don't suppose that's enough since moderators apparently don't have a life outside of this forum, are expected to be at the beck and call of forum members in addition to data sourcing and putting all of those information together on a spreadsheet or posted to a blog. What's wrong with one of those on AP actually taking on that task and making the information available for others to equally benefit from? Goodness!!
 
On a more general note: the fact that AP security processing would become an issue in terms of necessary depth and duration for DV 2016 and beyond really wasn't very difficult to predict. Presumably this is just the tip of the iceberg we are currently seeing. And yes - of course this will become a serious issue for affected DV applicants with a deadline, come July/August/September of this and future DV years, hopefully not for some of the folks complaining here already. This is going to get much, much worse, I am afraid.
 
@Britsimon @SusieQQQ @Sm1smon

1. I have seen the links to AP cases of prior years and I have seen some clearances near the deadline.
2. I have done everything I can to inform myself, I have spent hours on this thread, and yes I am looking for direct replies, there is nothing wrong with wanting that.
3. I don't know if you have access to data, if you do this all day, if you are paid.. I DO NOT KNOW.
4. And I repeat, you guys have been monitoring this thread since the beginning and it would have been possible to keep a count of the people who reported to be in AP and those who reported that they were cleared. -- USE THIS IDEA FOR THE COMING YEAR
5. I appreciate the information I got here, mainly from the other people in AP.
6. Don't gang up on me for stating my opinion, I have already apologized if it sounded critical. I am just openly letting you know your replies to "just sit and wait" were not satisfactory, and I am sure many of the people here under AP feel the same.

@Sm1smon you do not know what kind of person I am, so do not assume or try to predict what I will or not will do.

And YES I am leaving this thread. I came to this thread to try to predict how long it might take for my case to be cleared, sadly its true I just need to sit and wait.

To the people here under AP - GOOD LUCK.

And to the moderators....
 
DV_hopeful said:
And YES I am leaving this thread. I came to this thread to try to predict how long it might take for my case to be cleared, sadly its true I just need to sit and wait.

To the people here under AP - GOOD LUCK.

And to the moderators....
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DV_hopeful said:
@Britsimon @SusieQQQ @Sm1smon

1. I have seen the links to AP cases of prior years and I have seen some clearances near the deadline.
2. I have done everything I can to inform myself, I have spent hours on this thread, and yes I am looking for direct replies, there is nothing wrong with wanting that.
3. I don't know if you have access to data, if you do this all day, if you are paid.. I DO NOT KNOW.
4. And I repeat, you guys have been monitoring this thread since the beginning and it would have been possible to keep a count of the people who reported to be in AP and those who reported that they were cleared. -- USE THIS IDEA FOR THE COMING YEAR
5. I appreciate the information I got here, mainly from the other people in AP.
6. Don't gang up on me for stating my opinion, I have already apologized if it sounded critical. I am just openly letting you know your replies to "just sit and wait" were not satisfactory, and I am sure many of the people here under AP feel the same.

@Sm1smon you do not know what kind of person I am, so do not assume or try to predict what I will or not will do.

And YES I am leaving this thread. I came to this thread to try to predict how long it might take for my case to be cleared, sadly its true I just need to sit and wait.

To the people here under AP - GOOD LUCK.

And to the moderators....
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1. There were both near deadline and all along the way
2. Apparently not enough though as you missed all the ones cleared already
3. You clearly did not read the signatures below mom and Simon's every post, which clearly states they are unpaid volunteers
4. And I suppose they should do this on every other thread too, as surely you are not more special than anyone else? Who then pays for what becomes a full time job? Would you be prepared to pay to subscribe to such a forum to help fund it? Or should someone just do all that work for free?
5. Yes, that most of the information is from other people going through AP is exactly how the thread is supposed to work, as are all the others.
6. I personally explained to you exactly what I perceived to be critical, and invited you to explain to me why that was a misperception. You ignored that, and continue to demand people spend their time on stuff you don't feel like doing for yourself.

And, ok bye.
 
DV_hopeful said:
@Britsimon @SusieQQQ @Sm1smon

1. I have seen the links to AP cases of prior years and I have seen some clearances near the deadline.
2. I have done everything I can to inform myself, I have spent hours on this thread, and yes I am looking for direct replies, there is nothing wrong with wanting that.
3. I don't know if you have access to data, if you do this all day, if you are paid.. I DO NOT KNOW.
4. And I repeat, you guys have been monitoring this thread since the beginning and it would have been possible to keep a count of the people who reported to be in AP and those who reported that they were cleared. -- USE THIS IDEA FOR THE COMING YEAR
5. I appreciate the information I got here, mainly from the other people in AP.
6. Don't gang up on me for stating my opinion, I have already apologized if it sounded critical. I am just openly letting you know your replies to "just sit and wait" were not satisfactory, and I am sure many of the people here under AP feel the same.

@Sm1smon you do not know what kind of person I am, so do not assume or try to predict what I will or not will do.

And YES I am leaving this thread. I came to this thread to try to predict how long it might take for my case to be cleared, sadly its true I just need to sit and wait.

To the people here under AP - GOOD LUCK.

And to the moderators....
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1. Good for you.

2. If indeed you've spent hours on this particular Thread, you should have come across those who already cleared AP this year.

3. Granted you don't know all of that, you shouldn't have assumed either that we have the time to do that.

4. You claimed to have gone over the entire Thread, so you could have also done the count and put the stat together for others to benefit from. You have more at stake over the issue, the mods have none!

5. Glad you got useful guide from some forum members.

6. No one is ganging up on you, simply pointing out the errors and misconceptions in your posts, and letting you know you could also be a contributing member and not simply be at the receiving end! Stop expecting the mods or other long term contributing members to do everything. Life is all about give and take.
 
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