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Yes if the CN becomes current, the right thing to do would be to process CP

1. No
2. You may try and present a W2, a formal employment letter would carry more weight though IMO
Thank you so much Sm1smom for the helpful guidance. This forum makes a difference!
 
Hi,
I just realized that I have a spelling mistake in my father's name in the DS260 form and it's just 10 days before my interview date . The problem is that the name can be written in two different forms when transforming from Arabic to English but what I have written in my DS 260 mismatches my passport data . Is there anything I can do ? Should I contact the embassy ? Won't they change my interview date if I inform them about it ?
 
Hi,
I just realized that I have a spelling mistake in my father's name in the DS260 form and it's just 10 days before my interview date . The problem is that the name can be written in two different forms when transforming from Arabic to English but what I have written in my DS 260 mismatches my passport data . Is there anything I can do ? Should I contact the embassy ? Won't they change my interview date if I inform them about it ?

You can request to make the correction on the day of your interview, no need to contact the embassy ahead of time for that that.
 
I Have a qouestion with regard to Police Certificate. if an applicant spouse have a nationality of a Country but she never lived thier , will Police certificate be required from the Country of Nationality even if you never lived in that country ?
 
I Have a qouestion with regard to Police Certificate. if an applicant spouse have a nationality of a Country but she never lived thier , will Police certificate be required from the Country of Nationality even if you never lived in that country ?
If she has never lived there since the age of 16 - no need for a police certificate.
 
thank you very much. she never lived but visit for 3-4 weeks . I think she dont need Police records for short visits either
 
I also have question regarding police certificate.

I lived in Ukraine during 2006-2011. When I received 1NL in May 2014 I applied for the police certificate in UA embassy and received it at end of June 2014.
Is this certificate still valid? As stated in requested documents list, the certificate must be of less than 1 year valid. But I did not live in Ukraine since 2011.

Should I still renew that certificate?
 
I also have question regarding police certificate.

I lived in Ukraine during 2006-2011. When I received 1NL in May 2014 I applied for the police certificate in UA embassy and received it at end of June 2014.
Is this certificate still valid? As stated in requested documents list, the certificate must be of less than 1 year valid. But I did not live in Ukraine since 2011.

Should I still renew that certificate?

In cases where you haven't been back to a country COs have generally accepted the old report - but that relies on them believing you have not been back there. So - a new report is better (if you want to remove the risk) unless you can prove you have not lived there since June 2014
 
In cases where you haven't been back to a country COs have generally accepted the old report - but that relies on them believing you have not been back there. So - a new report is better (if you want to remove the risk) unless you can prove you have not lived there since June 2014

Thanks a lot, Simon. Your response is very useful as usual.
I have not lived there as I work in other country (Georgia) since 2011 but you are right. To be on a safe side I will renew it.

I have also unusual case regarding country of birth.
I was born in Ukraine and have birth certificate of USSR (Ukraine). But I am the citizen of Georgia and apply from Georgia (I am married to Georgian).
Should I renew my birth certificate as well? Should I legalize it or something?

In case I am invited for the interview in September (I have high CN, 40xxx) I do not want to miss my chance because of some open issues with my documents.
 
Thanks a lot, Simon. Your response is very useful as usual.
I have not lived there as I work in other country (Georgia) since 2011 but you are right. To be on a safe side I will renew it.

I have also unusual case regarding country of birth.
I was born in Ukraine and have birth certificate of USSR (Ukraine). But I am the citizen of Georgia and apply from Georgia (I am married to Georgian).
Should I renew my birth certificate as well? Should I legalize it or something?

In case I am invited for the interview in September (I have high CN, 40xxx) I do not want to miss my chance because of some open issues with my documents.

Is your spouse the principal selectee?
 
Is your spouse the principal selectee?

No, I am the winner. I was born in Ukraine, but filled application selecting the country of eligibility as Georgia (did not know the rules when filling the application but fortunately I am still eligible because my wife is Georgian and both countries are in EU region). My parents are Georgian as well but I think it is easier to qualify using my wife's country of eligibility. She was born in Georgia, so we qualify together. I will be eligible by my spouses Country.
 
No, I am the winner. I was born in Ukraine, but filled application selecting the country of eligibility as Georgia (did not know the rules when filling the application but fortunately I am still eligible because my wife is Georgian and both countries are in EU region). My parents are Georgian as well but I think it is easier to qualify using my wife's country of eligibility. She was born in Georgia, so we qualify together. I will be eligible by my spouses Country.

That should be ok, remember if you use your spouse she must also be able to qualify for DV as a principal.
 
That should be ok, remember if you use your spouse she must also be able to qualify for DV as a principal.

Thank you. I already figured this out thanks to you guys and thanks to this forum. The only question that remains is whether I should update my birth certificate? The certificate I have was issued when I was born, back in USSR :) Should I update it or just certified translation is enough?
 
Thank you. I already figured this out thanks to you guys and thanks to this forum. The only question that remains is whether I should update my birth certificate? The certificate I have was issued when I was born, back in USSR :) Should I update it or just certified translation is enough?

It's got place of birth, right? I don't think you need it updated though if it's easy enough to do you may as well.
 
It's got place of birth, right? I don't think you need it updated though if it's easy enough to do you may as well.

Yes I has of course. Ukrainian Socialistic Republic :)
The city, parents etc. It has everything that is needed, except of the country that does not exist already :)
 
No, I am the winner. I was born in Ukraine, but filled application selecting the country of eligibility as Georgia (did not know the rules when filling the application but fortunately I am still eligible because my wife is Georgian and both countries are in EU region). My parents are Georgian as well but I think it is easier to qualify using my wife's country of eligibility. She was born in Georgia, so we qualify together. I will be eligible by my spouses Country.

OK you are "electing" her country of chargeability. This is called cross charging and has some "nuances" that may or may not be applied at the time of the interview. The 9FAM notes list some examples of cross charging. There is a lawyer (Bernie Wolfsdorf) who talks about cross charging to gain a benefit of better odds etc - but I have never found clarity in the rules that he says are possible.

As Susie mentioned above, IF the CO does the job right they should ask for education etc on both of you. Additionally they have to allow the elective cross charging. The rules say that this is normally not disqualifying if the applicant received no bnenefit (unlike a region change). However since Ukraine is limited it could be argued that you got a benefit in the draw.

9 FAM 42.33 N4.2 Chargeability (CT:VISA-1555; 09-30-2010) As stated in the regulatory definition, the normal rules of chargeability apply to INA 203(c) (8 U.S.C. 1153(c)) immigrants. Many applicants may seek beneficial treatment from the rules of cross chargeability, as in the following examples: (1) A spouse or child born in a country, which is not among those for which DV visas are available, may use the principal registrant’s chargeability when they are accompanying or following-to-join; (2) A child born in a non-qualifying country in which neither parent was born nor resident at the time of the child’s birth, may claim the birthplace of either parent; (3) A principal registrant born in a country, which is not among those for which DV visas are available, and the spouse who was born in a qualifying country, may be issued DV visas, provided the relationship was established prior to submitting the entry. In such instances, however, both applicants are considered principal applicants for the purpose of cross-chargeability and must be issued visas and apply for admission to the United States simultaneously.
 
OK you are "electing" her country of chargeability. This is called cross charging and has some "nuances" that may or may not be applied at the time of the interview. The 9FAM notes list some examples of cross charging. There is a lawyer (Bernie Wolfsdorf) who talks about cross charging to gain a benefit of better odds etc - but I have never found clarity in the rules that he says are possible.

As Susie mentioned above, IF the CO does the job right they should ask for education etc on both of you. Additionally they have to allow the elective cross charging. The rules say that this is normally not disqualifying if the applicant received no bnenefit (unlike a region change). However since Ukraine is limited it could be argued that you got a benefit in the draw.

9 FAM 42.33 N4.2 Chargeability (CT:VISA-1555; 09-30-2010) As stated in the regulatory definition, the normal rules of chargeability apply to INA 203(c) (8 U.S.C. 1153(c)) immigrants. Many applicants may seek beneficial treatment from the rules of cross chargeability, as in the following examples: (1) A spouse or child born in a country, which is not among those for which DV visas are available, may use the principal registrant’s chargeability when they are accompanying or following-to-join; (2) A child born in a non-qualifying country in which neither parent was born nor resident at the time of the child’s birth, may claim the birthplace of either parent; (3) A principal registrant born in a country, which is not among those for which DV visas are available, and the spouse who was born in a qualifying country, may be issued DV visas, provided the relationship was established prior to submitting the entry. In such instances, however, both applicants are considered principal applicants for the purpose of cross-chargeability and must be issued visas and apply for admission to the United States simultaneously.
Hmm... From your good description above, it certainly makes this DV case more complex. The question readers in a similar situation may therefore want to ask themselves is whether it is really worth the effort, if both countries are eligible which of course differs from your personal UK/Spain situation. The fact, in this specific case, that it potentially could be argued that an unfair advantage possibly could have been gained, given that Ukraine is limited and Georgia is not, is already bad news in my humble opinion. Anyways...
 
Hmm... From your good description above, it certainly makes this DV case more complex. The question readers in a similar situation may therefore want to ask themselves is whether it is really worth the effort, if both countries are eligible which of course differs from your personal UK/Spain situation. The fact, in this specific case, that it potentially could be argued that an unfair advantage possibly could have been gained, given that Ukraine is limited and Georgia is not, is already bad news in my humble opinion. Anyways...

The thing is the 9 FAM notes list those three examples - but that may not be an exhaustive list. Wolfsdorf is more aggressive that these 3 examples - but just because a lawyer is happy to argue something (on an hourly paid basis) does not mean a CO sitting in Georgia is going to know the ins and outs of cross charging. However is it worth it - well n.n. probably doubled his chance of winning... if it pays off it will have been a good gamble.
 
The thing is the 9 FAM notes list those three examples - but that may not be an exhaustive list. Wolfsdorf is more aggressive that these 3 examples - but just because a lawyer is happy to argue something (on an hourly paid basis) does not mean a CO sitting in Georgia is going to know the ins and outs of cross charging. However is it worth it - well n.n. probably doubled his chance of winning... if it pays off it will have been a good gamble.
Yep, it does. If he becomes current and it will work in the end, I'd certainly be happy for him. Even though, doubling ones chances of winning certainly qualifies for "gaining relative advantage" in my book...
 
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