esa
Member
Flori and I was just making some conversations about the spreadsheets TR & EU . We were discussing both . We both agree with you. Just trying the times go faster to the next monts 2nd letters.
DV 2015 winners from Europe
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Flori and I was just making some conversations about the spreadsheets TR & EU . We were discussing both . We both agree with you. Just trying the times go faster to the next monts 2nd letters.
Hi guys,
Just finished our visa interview... Put on AP
Ok so here's how it went...
My husband and I got married on May 2013 (so 5 months before even applying for the DV2015)
Today the visa officer insisted soooo much on us providing proof of our relationship (not marriage certificate or legal proof...but other info to prove it)
We said we didn't know they needed it (as it was not mentioned in the list of the docs requested) and she said then that they ask for that bcz my we got married after my husband won the lottery...
We explained VERY CLEARLY that we had already been married one year before we won the lottery. At that point I think she rechecked the papers and asked no further questions about our relationship.
She then raised her voice and switched from Albanian language to English. Asked a few other questions about high school (which we answered) and at the end she got up...went to the other office and came back with a piece of paper telling us we need to get a new sponsor as the one we had couldn't support us as he was below the poverty line.
I really got no idea which the poverty line is :'( (does anyone know ???????????) but the fact is that we have to find a new sponsor ASAP and sent the form again to the embassy via courier.
It was a shock really. We're sad and disappointed. I don't really know if they are gonna issue us the visa even if we provide a new affidavit of support... Is there any other case like ours and how did it end??? Does anyone know anything about similar cases?
I just feel hopeless, not bcz we can't find a new sponsor but bcz it seems like it's over.
Just finished our visa interview... Put on AP
Ok so here's how it went...
My husband and I got married on May 2013 (so 5 months before even applying for the DV2015)
Today the visa officer insisted soooo much on us providing proof of our relationship (not marriage certificate or legal proof...but other info to prove it)
We said we didn't know they needed it (as it was not mentioned in the list of the docs requested) and she said then that they ask for that bcz my we got married after my husband won the lottery...
We explained VERY CLEARLY that we had already been married one year before we won the lottery. At that point I think she rechecked the papers and asked no further questions about our relationship.
She then raised her voice and switched from Albanian language to English. Asked a few other questions about high school (which we answered) and at the end she got up...went to the other office and came back with a piece of paper telling us we need to get a new sponsor as the one we had couldn't support us as he was below the poverty line.
I really got no idea which the poverty line is :'( (does anyone know ???????????) but the fact is that we have to find a new sponsor ASAP and sent the form again to the embassy via courier.
It was a shock really. We're sad and disappointed. I don't really know if they are gonna issue us the visa even if we provide a new affidavit of support... Is there any other case like ours and how did it end??? Does anyone know anything about similar cases?
I just feel hopeless, not bcz we can't find a new sponsor but bcz it seems like it's over.
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
Hi guys,
Just finished our visa interview... Put on AP
Ok so here's how it went...
My husband and I got married on May 2013 (so 5 months before even applying for the DV2015)
Today the visa officer insisted soooo much on us providing proof of our relationship (not marriage certificate or legal proof...but other info to prove it)
We said we didn't know they needed it (as it was not mentioned in the list of the docs requested) and she said then that they ask for that bcz my we got married after my husband won the lottery...
We explained VERY CLEARLY that we had already been married one year before we won the lottery. At that point I think she rechecked the papers and asked no further questions about our relationship.
She then raised her voice and switched from Albanian language to English. Asked a few other questions about high school (which we answered) and at the end she got up...went to the other office and came back with a piece of paper telling us we need to get a new sponsor as the one we had couldn't support us as he was below the poverty line.
I really got no idea which the poverty line is :'( (does anyone know ???????????) but the fact is that we have to find a new sponsor ASAP and sent the form again to the embassy via courier.
It was a shock really. We're sad and disappointed. I don't really know if they are gonna issue us the visa even if we provide a new affidavit of support... Is there any other case like ours and how did it end??? Does anyone know anything about similar cases?
I just feel hopeless, not bcz we can't find a new sponsor but bcz it seems like it's over.
Sorry to hear about the AP, but yes they will reject the AOS if the sponsor's income is below the poverty guideline. This is normal. Google "US poverty guideline" to see what the incomes are. Your sponsor will need to earn enough to provide for the poverty guidelines for all adults and children in his own family as well as all in your family to be acceptable. Other cases like yours have been approved when the people have found a sponsor with acceptable income.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Hi guys,
Just finished our visa interview... Put on AP
Ok so here's how it went...
My husband and I got married on May 2013 (so 5 months before even applying for the DV2015)
Today the visa officer insisted soooo much on us providing proof of our relationship (not marriage certificate or legal proof...but other info to prove it)
We said we didn't know they needed it (as it was not mentioned in the list of the docs requested) and she said then that they ask for that bcz my we got married after my husband won the lottery...
We explained VERY CLEARLY that we had already been married one year before we won the lottery. At that point I think she rechecked the papers and asked no further questions about our relationship.
She then raised her voice and switched from Albanian language to English. Asked a few other questions about high school (which we answered) and at the end she got up...went to the other office and came back with a piece of paper telling us we need to get a new sponsor as the one we had couldn't support us as he was below the poverty line.
I really got no idea which the poverty line is :'( (does anyone know ???????????) but the fact is that we have to find a new sponsor ASAP and sent the form again to the embassy via courier.
It was a shock really. We're sad and disappointed. I don't really know if they are gonna issue us the visa even if we provide a new affidavit of support... Is there any other case like ours and how did it end??? Does anyone know anything about similar cases?
I just feel hopeless, not bcz we can't find a new sponsor but bcz it seems like it's over.
Sorry about being put on AP. Your case will be approved once you send in a new AOS with the sponsor's income above the required poverty guideline. The following link should provide you with more information on what the sponsor's income should be:
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf
Your sponsor's income has to cover the number of people in his/her family + the number of people in your family.
Hi guys,
Just finished our visa interview... Put on AP
Ok so here's how it went...
My husband and I got married on May 2013 (so 5 months before even applying for the DV2015)
Today the visa officer insisted soooo much on us providing proof of our relationship (not marriage certificate or legal proof...but other info to prove it)
We said we didn't know they needed it (as it was not mentioned in the list of the docs requested) and she said then that they ask for that bcz my we got married after my husband won the lottery...
We explained VERY CLEARLY that we had already been married one year before we won the lottery. At that point I think she rechecked the papers and asked no further questions about our relationship.
She then raised her voice and switched from Albanian language to English. Asked a few other questions about high school (which we answered) and at the end she got up...went to the other office and came back with a piece of paper telling us we need to get a new sponsor as the one we had couldn't support us as he was below the poverty line.
I really got no idea which the poverty line is :'( (does anyone know ???????????) but the fact is that we have to find a new sponsor ASAP and sent the form again to the embassy via courier.
It was a shock really. We're sad and disappointed. I don't really know if they are gonna issue us the visa even if we provide a new affidavit of support... Is there any other case like ours and how did it end??? Does anyone know anything about similar cases?
I just feel hopeless, not bcz we can't find a new sponsor but bcz it seems like it's over.
You find the poverty income guidelines in Foreign Affairs Manual 9 FAM 40.41 (relevant part attached).
Good luck
Thank you @Sm1smom and @SusieQQQ for the info....and the link... Yes this clarifies things.
We unfortunately didn't know the whole thing about poverty line (our mistake) and we just took it for granted
Well, I guess we're gonna try to get a new AOS asap, hopefully they will be kind enough not to refuse us after that...!
Flori_ALB_NY
Active Member
Thank you for these references sm1smom & DV4ROGER, but could you kindly clarify how calculation is done ?! Let's say the sponsor has a family of 2 members (including him/her), does that mean he must have incomes >= $ 19,662 (referring to the 2nd row in the chart of Poverty Gudelines) no matter of how big is my family? Does his/her income of >= $ 19,662 cover my family of 2 adults (including me) and an infant?
LulKosova
Member
Hi Flori,
You need to add your members on top of the sponsor's members. From your example (2 persons from the sponsor and 3 from your side), the sponsor must have the income of at least $ 34,887 (for 5 persons).
Flori_ALB_NY
Active Member
Dear Bleri, first of all calm down and breath because it's not over at all... My cousin had the same experience as yours in DV2014, she was put in AP for the same reason of sponsorship but afterwards managed to fix it, have a new interview date and get the visa!Hi guys,
Just finished our visa interview... Put on AP
Ok so here's how it went...
My husband and I got married on May 2013 (so 5 months before even applying for the DV2015)
Today the visa officer insisted soooo much on us providing proof of our relationship (not marriage certificate or legal proof...but other info to prove it)
We said we didn't know they needed it (as it was not mentioned in the list of the docs requested) and she said then that they ask for that bcz my we got married after my husband won the lottery...
We explained VERY CLEARLY that we had already been married one year before we won the lottery. At that point I think she rechecked the papers and asked no further questions about our relationship.
She then raised her voice and switched from Albanian language to English. Asked a few other questions about high school (which we answered) and at the end she got up...went to the other office and came back with a piece of paper telling us we need to get a new sponsor as the one we had couldn't support us as he was below the poverty line.
I really got no idea which the poverty line is :'( (does anyone know ???????????) but the fact is that we have to find a new sponsor ASAP and sent the form again to the embassy via courier.
It was a shock really. We're sad and disappointed. I don't really know if they are gonna issue us the visa even if we provide a new affidavit of support... Is there any other case like ours and how did it end??? Does anyone know anything about similar cases?
I just feel hopeless, not bcz we can't find a new sponsor but bcz it seems like it's over.
As for the relationship proof you have have been asked from the CO that is very bizarre!! Don't you have a kid as proof
Next time I don't think you will be asked the same question but take some old photos and be prepared for questions regarding your spouse's family members etc...Pac fat ! Good luck !
Britsimon
Super Moderator
We don't give that link Roger because it quotes I864 need which states 125% of the FPG, and the I134 is assessed at 100%.
Britsimon
Super Moderator
Please guys, read this post...
http://britsimonsays.com/all-about-public-charge-affidavit-of-support-i-134/
And this one
http://britsimonsays.com/i-134-or-i-184-difference/
http://britsimonsays.com/all-about-public-charge-affidavit-of-support-i-134/
And this one
http://britsimonsays.com/i-134-or-i-184-difference/
Thanks for the information!
Flori_ALB_NY
Active Member
Are you saying that an infant has the same weight as an adult while calculating the sponsorship ?! If someone would not need the sponsorship but show evidence of his savings then an infant would have not the same weight in calculations as an adult...
LulKosova
Member
The age of person doesn't make any difference to them, otherwise it would have been stated on the Poverty Income Guideline. They only show the size of the family - they don't show the age. So, if it's 2 months old or 50 years old, it's still 1 person.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
The size, weight or age of a person to be covered by an affidavit is immaterial. The infant is counted as a person, the same way you will pay the $330 DV fee and $165 GC for the infant is the same way the infant will be counted as one individual with needs when putting together the affidavit of support!
Very interesting posts @Britsimon and very clear. The only thing i don't understand is why in the paper they gave us it is stated "Sponsor must meet 125% of poverty guidliness......" bohh I don't know... All i can say is to be sure I'm gonna ask one of my "rich" relatives
for a new affidavit Dear Bleri, first of all calm down and breath because it's not over at all... My cousin had the same experience as yours in DV2014, she was put in AP for the same reason of sponsorship but afterwards managed to fix it, have a new interview date and get the visa!
As for the relationship proof you have have been asked from the CO that is very bizarre!! Don't you have a kid as proof
Pac fat ! Good luck !
Fingers crossed @Flori_ALB_NY Faleminderit
I really hope evrth goes smoothly and we get it. Now we're just arranging a new AOS...
And about the pics you're suggesting, well I guess we'll do that, as we've no babies yet
Good luck to you too!