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Kings said:
Congrats Simon on your Job n nice pics. I never new its that easy to get a job there. Got friends in Boston n PA n they always tell me I will take atleast 6 months before i get a job, i av to get a DL and other stuff. Is it true that jobs availabolity n waiting period vary from State to state. please advice
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Getting a job depends on a lot of things: your location, skills/experience, desired job, etc. If you're interested in starting with any minimum pay job, you most likely may be able to get a job within a week or two of looking. However if you're looking for something similar to what you're currently doing, then it may take a while and bear in mind you most likely may not be employed at whatever level you're currently on in your home country.
 
coronahope said:
Just out of curiosity. To the moderators and all those already in States. Are the levels of racism in the US as bad as depicted in the media? I just can't imagine hauling my family from the comfort of Nairobi to a place where they are constantly ridiculed on the basis of skin colour. Its my earnest desire to relocate once we get through this process but the latest news send shivers down my spine. Kindly grant me insight into this vice and how its likely to affect my family especially the young ones more so at school. Am in the engineering field and doing fine. Will I have to wade through the race issue to get a job? Hope my being inquisitive is not offensive. I also hope it will not attract racist comments as I believe all those in this forum are above such retrogressive conduct. Thanks.
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Well the truth is racism exists everywhere, just because one isn't reading/hearing about racism from places where there isn't a good media coverage does not mean there's no racism in such places. Racism isn't simply a white on black thing or vice versa. I can confidently say in the part of Africa where I originally come from, there is racism too. Even though all the people there are of the same skin type, there's the ethnic divide which still affects the way people perceive and sometimes relate to one another.

Will your kids be laughed at by other kids at school because of their accents? Most likely yes, and that's a form of racism too. Is that enough reason for a parent to deny the kid the chance of being exposed to better opportunities because one is trying to protect them from being ridiculed? Not enough IMO.

This is a legitimate concern you've raised, and I'm not trying to make light of it. I understand your concerns as a parent and as a family person, however don't you think every person of color would have left the U.S. by now if things are really that bad? Will you personally encounter racial treatment when looking for work or even after you get the job? Most likely yes! The important thing is how you handle the situation when confronted with one, and the question is what are you willing to give to get what you want?
 
Sm1smom said:
Well the truth is racism exists everywhere, just because one isn't reading/hearing about racism from places where there isn't a good media coverage does not mean there's no racism in such places. Racism isn't simply a white on black thing or vice versa. I can confidently say in the part of Africa where I originally come from, there is racism too. Even though all the people there are of the same skin type, there's the ethnic divide which still affects the way people perceive and sometimes relate to one another.

Will your kids be laughed at by other kids at school because of their accents? Most likely yes, and that's a form of racism too. Is that enough reason for a parent to deny the kid the chance of being exposed to better opportunities because one is trying to protect them from being ridiculed? Not enough IMO.

This is a legitimate concern you've raised, and I'm not trying to make light of it. I understand your concerns as a parent and as a family person, however don't you think every person of color would have left the U.S. by now if things are really that bad? Will you personally encounter racial treatment when looking for work or even after you get the job? Most likely yes! The important thing is how you handle the situation when confronted with one, and the question is what are you willing to give to get what you want?
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A delicate topic indeed. Any Addtional opinions from guys who have made the big leap already living there in America? Where i live, very many people return and come to retire here in Kenya.
 
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Thanks Mom for the candid answer. I have the guts to endure any ridicule. Biggest concern is the kids. On one hand my wife and I are eager to open up the world for them. It would of course be tragic to end up with psychologically disoriented kids. All the same am geared up! To my aspirations!

Back here we surely have the ethnic divide but its much concealed especially in a big city like Nairobi.

I feel am better prepared now to venture out there with the facts at hand. Oh and what should I give in turn to any would be racist? I guess my other cheek. Love, kindness and such virtues eventually overcome even the worst bully. Again, thanks.

Sm1smom said:
Well the truth is racism exists everywhere, just because one isn't reading/hearing about racism from places where there isn't a good media coverage does not mean there's no racism in such places. Racism isn't simply a white on black thing or vice versa. I can confidently say in the part of Africa where I originally come from, there is racism too. Even though all the people there are of the same skin type, there's the ethnic divide which still affects the way people perceive and sometimes relate to one another.

Will your kids be laughed at by other kids at school because of their accents? Most likely yes, and that's a form of racism too. Is that enough reason for a parent to deny the kid the chance of being exposed to better opportunities because one is trying to protect them from being ridiculed? Not enough IMO.

This is a legitimate concern you've raised, and I'm not trying to make light of it. I understand your concerns as a parent and as a family person, however don't you think every person of color would have left the U.S. by now if things are really that bad? Will you personally encounter racial treatment when looking for work or even after you get the job? Most likely yes! The important thing is how you handle the situation when confronted with one, and the question is what are you willing to give to get what you want?
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coronahope said:
Thanks Mom for the candid answer. I have the guts to endure any ridicule. Biggest concern is the kids. On one hand my wife and I are eager to open up the world for them. It would of course be tragic to end up with psychologically disoriented kids. All the same am geared up! To my aspirations!

Back here we surely have the ethnic divide but its much concealed especially in a big city like Nairobi.

I feel am better prepared now to venture out there with the facts at hand. Oh and what should I give in turn to any would be racist? I guess my other cheek. Love, kindness and such virtues eventually overcome even the worst bully. Again, thanks.
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When it comes to handling racial issues, while I don't advocate a roll over and allow people to walk all over you attitude, it's important to note that there's no one size fits all response either. I believe each situation will need to be handled on a case by case basis, however one could start by educating him/herself by knowing your rights, understanding the applicable policies within your place of work or whatever organization you belong to, speak out when you perceive racial acts, even if the action isn't directed against you, obey and respect the laws put in place to protect everyone, treat others as you would want to be treated, etc.

I don't believe racism can be completely eliminated, but its impact can be minimized.
 
Sm1smom said:
When it comes to handling racial issues, while I don't advocate a roll over and allow people to walk all over you attitude, it's important to note that there's no one size fits all response either. I believe each situation will need to be handled on a case by case basis, however one could start by educating him/herself by knowing your rights, understanding the applicable policies within your place of work or whatever organization you belong to, speak out when you perceive racial acts, even if the action isn't directed against you, obey and respect the laws put in place to protect everyone, treat others as you would want to be treated, etc.

I don't believe racism can be completely eliminated, but its impact can be minimized.
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So very true. Thanks again. Infact am better off prepared to face it courageously yet with respect than to be ignorant of it and it finally hits me with no prior preparedness. Good night from Nairobi.
 
Nayfara said:
am on my way to pick up my visa...then ill pay the 160 dollars today.......

i would like to thank all the guys who helped me eg. @Simon and the rest through my journey .....and all those who supported me in this.......... well as for the rest i wish you guys all the best.......
il will be living after Christmas.......
God bless you all.......:rolleyes::);):p:cool:
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Thanks @Nayfara May ll the Glory be to the LORD,God uses Men and Women in fulfilling His WILL,We are just part of the many He uses.Welcome to the Land...Merry Christmas and happy new year.
 
xtim said:
hello good people! i need to get the required passport size photographs..please advise me on which studio i should visit. i am based in Nairobi. thanks in advance and God bless
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Just go to -CHARIOTS STUDIO Ground flour Kenya RE-Insurance plaza-Agha khan walk near Kencom or at the village market and lastly a building next to American Embassy
 
usken go said:
A delicate topic indeed. Any Addtional opinions from guys who have made the big leap already living there in America? Where i live, very many people return and come to retire here in Kenya.
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The choice you make of who becomes your neighbor matters(depending on your expectations) a lot-For those who live in Nairobi,you will agree with me that Asians-wastelands,Somalis-Eastleigh etc have their preference.Even where their children go to school matters to them aand yet this is Kenya.If you chose to live in an all white estate-its your choice.Here in New Jersey the same is replicated -The Jews have an entire area,Kikuyus,Nigerians,siera lones,Mexicans,Am also told that kissis have an are nicknamed after their mother land -here in NJ ..Just Google and you will understand what am talking about. I believe this IS ONE WAY way of mitigating the whole thing...
 
During the interview, apart from submitting the obvious docs, do you hold the rest ( affidavit of support, bank statements, tittle deeds, logo books etc)
until you are asked to do so? Any interviews.
 
gitma said:
During the interview, apart from submitting the obvious docs, do you hold the rest ( affidavit of support, bank statements, tittle deeds, logo books etc)
until you are asked to do so? Any interviews.
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You need to have them with you as you go for your interview.
But, you don't have to show any financial supporting documents unless you are asked to.
 
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Simon said:
The choice you make of who becomes your neighbor matters(depending on your expectations) a lot-For those who live in Nairobi,you will agree with me that Asians-wastelands,Somalis-Eastleigh etc have their preference.Even where their children go to school matters to them aand yet this is Kenya.If you chose to live in an all white estate-its your choice.Here in New Jersey the same is replicated -The Jews have an entire area,Kikuyus,Nigerians,siera lones,Mexicans,Am also told that kissis have an are nicknamed after their mother land -here in NJ ..Just Google and you will understand what am talking about. I believe this IS ONE WAY way of mitigating the whole thing..
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Thanks Simon. Thanks too to Mom. Am now informed.
 
My case is likely to be due for interview in July/August. Which month should I request for the affidavit of support from my host,
and which documents should accompany the same. By the way, does the affidavit expire , is it supposed to be sent as a parcel or an ordinary letter.
Kindly advise.
 
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