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DrMrsDenied said:
"Woe is me, for I am undone"

The short story...

For those that wont read the full story: I was put on AP because I could not present the "separation decree" - to show I was indeed separated at the time of DV entry, and (for me) the requirement was wildly unexpected, and shocked me to the core...everything else was a blur after that.

Now the long story...

I have been following the advice from this forum the whole of last month, and actually got to a point where I obsessed. Now as I write this, my head is spinning like a carousel, but the writing alone seems to be somewhat therapeutic. I had planned to gloat after my (successful) interview, but now all I have is some (perhaps useful) experience for some clueless soul :)

1. I have been entering the DV for about a decade, and the year I got selected, I happened to be in America on J1 with 2 year physical home residence requirement. So I had to apply for a waiver based solely on the DV selection, and I was granted after some paperwork.

Moral of story 1: Relax, dont fret if you're not selected, you save yourself what 15 months later could turn out to be wasted effort.

2. I made the September cut-off by a few hundreds (AF8****), and I thought it was a sure sign the good Lord wanted me to emigrate to America. I did the (expensive) medicals, and "peed in the cup" :), fetched police records from all over the place and whatnot. -

Moral of story 2: Relax if you didnt make the cut; you saved yourself time and money for uncertain ventures.

3. Thanks to you guys, I had everything ready (for the most part anyway); their email asked for proof of finance, and I showed a bank statement, and that was enough.

I had ticked "advanced degree" in ds-230, and the consular asked for it a few minutes later. I initially submitted just the necessary high school certificate (learning from @Britsimon yesteryear's experience).

And here's the kicker: My final divorce decree is dated June 2014, and that may have set off some kind of bell. We separated early 2011. Some minutes later, the consular asked for my "separation decree", which I hadnt brought...I assumed the divorce decree was sufficient. I was immediately put on AP for not being able to present a requested document. However, the interview went on as normal until that last part, and they retained my passport.

I'm not sure that I will be able to get and send the decree in time. Not sure that I still have the decree mail (will check tonight), which also needs translation.

Bottom line; I'm almost certainly f'd.

In this forum, I read about how marriage issues received severe scrutiny, and how they could be grounds for denial, but of all the things that I thought might go wrong with my application, this never crossed my mind. Not that I was completely clueless, but I thought at worst it could be a snag, but never thought it would be the showstopper. So, of all the meticulous prep, and even bringing a heavy envelop of other "extra" supporting documents, my mind was somehow closed to the idea of (finding and) packing the separation letter.

Good bye Texas, no more "howdys". Why, oh why?? What does it all mean!

Moral of the story 3: "Even if NOTHING can possibly go wrong, it will anyway" :)

Concluding: as an African village boy with the famed "six figure" income in Europe (US$ wise), perhaps I should take comfort in the fact that my visa slot will be re-allocated to someone more deserving.

This evil enterprise was a complete waste of time and money, albeit full of moments of renewed (now dashed) hope, excitement and adrenaline. I have no regrets, I would do it again, and again and again!!

PS:
Congratulations to those that recently made it (@pose, @Vlad, @Lerri, @Britsimon, and company), and my thoughts are with those in similar circumstances to mine, particularly:

@tyt - fear&&worry != faith. For goodness' sake, grab the bull by the b*lls and stop tormenting this thread, please :) @mom, you shld not take any more nonsense! But seriously, "Fear not (my friend), for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

@levi2al - I mourned bitterly when I read about your baby asking if you were emigrating to America. All I can say is: relax!!

"...adieu. I have too grieved a heart
To take a tedious leave: thus losers part."
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I hate reading these stories.Sorry for the way you feel now. In terms of the case it is essential that you demonstrate you were legally separated at the time of entry. The CO is quite correct to insist on that. However, if you have it, getting it translated and back to the embassy should be possible to do quickly and then you still have a chance. It is a good sign that they kept your passport - they expect to issue your visa - it is now up to you whether to turn your story from the present doubtful one into a happy ending. It's your choice!!!
 
DrMrsDenied said:
"Woe is me, for I am undone"

The short story...

For those that wont read the full story: I was put on AP because I could not present the "separation decree" - to show I was indeed separated at the time of DV entry, and (for me) the requirement was wildly unexpected, and shocked me to the core...everything else was a blur after that.

Now the long story...

I have been following the advice from this forum the whole of last month, and actually got to a point where I obsessed. Now as I write this, my head is spinning like a carousel, but the writing alone seems to be somewhat therapeutic. I had planned to gloat after my (successful) interview, but now all I have is some (perhaps useful) experience for some clueless soul :)

1. I have been entering the DV for about a decade, and the year I got selected, I happened to be in America on J1 with 2 year physical home residence requirement. So I had to apply for a waiver based solely on the DV selection, and I was granted after some paperwork.

Moral of story 1: Relax, dont fret if you're not selected, you save yourself what 15 months later could turn out to be wasted effort.

2. I made the September cut-off by a few hundreds (AF8****), and I thought it was a sure sign the good Lord wanted me to emigrate to America. I did the (expensive) medicals, and "peed in the cup" :), fetched police records from all over the place and whatnot. -

Moral of story 2: Relax if you didnt make the cut; you saved yourself time and money for uncertain ventures.

3. Thanks to you guys, I had everything ready (for the most part anyway); their email asked for proof of finance, and I showed a bank statement, and that was enough.

I had ticked "advanced degree" in ds-230, and the consular asked for it a few minutes later. I initially submitted just the necessary high school certificate (learning from @Britsimon yesteryear's experience).

And here's the kicker: My final divorce decree is dated June 2014, and that may have set off some kind of bell. We separated early 2011. Some minutes later, the consular asked for my "separation decree", which I hadnt brought...I assumed the divorce decree was sufficient. I was immediately put on AP for not being able to present a requested document. However, the interview went on as normal until that last part, and they retained my passport.

I'm not sure that I will be able to get and send the decree in time. Not sure that I still have the decree mail (will check tonight), which also needs translation.

Bottom line; I'm almost certainly f'd.

In this forum, I read about how marriage issues received severe scrutiny, and how they could be grounds for denial, but of all the things that I thought might go wrong with my application, this never crossed my mind. Not that I was completely clueless, but I thought at worst it could be a snag, but never thought it would be the showstopper. So, of all the meticulous prep, and even bringing a heavy envelop of other "extra" supporting documents, my mind was somehow closed to the idea of (finding and) packing the separation letter.

Good bye Texas, no more "howdys". Why, oh why?? What does it all mean!

Moral of the story 3: "Even if NOTHING can possibly go wrong, it will anyway" :)

Concluding: as an African village boy with the famed "six figure" income in Europe (US$ wise), perhaps I should take comfort in the fact that my visa slot will be re-allocated to someone more deserving.

This evil enterprise was a complete waste of time and money, albeit full of moments of renewed (now dashed) hope, excitement and adrenaline. I have no regrets, I would do it again, and again and again!!

PS:
Congratulations to those that recently made it (@pose, @Vlad, @Lerri, @Britsimon, and company), and my thoughts are with those in similar circumstances to mine, particularly:

@tyt - fear&&worry != faith. For goodness' sake, grab the bull by the b*lls and stop tormenting this thread, please :) @mom, you shld not take any more nonsense! But seriously, "Fear not (my friend), for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

@levi2al - I mourned bitterly when I read about your baby asking if you were emigrating to America. All I can say is: relax!!

"...adieu. I have too grieved a heart
To take a tedious leave: thus losers part."
Click to expand...

Oh goosh!! You've come too far to give up so easily. You have the separation decree, so dust it up, get it translated and have it delivered to the embassy ASAP! It is not yet over. Right now, there's still a visa reserved for you, act on it and get going!!
 
@ Drmrs,you still stand a chance.We need to read a better narration than the one above,get that doc and send it ASAP,there is no point of leting the visa slip off your fingers for a doc that you possess.
 
i'm tired and fed up now with this Ap ,always
make slpless...120day nw still on Ap...but my
ceac status shown ready, am sick and tired...
 
For those in Nairobi, what are the vaccines repeated after six weeks both adults and children and how much does it cost At city hall coz Iom z a bit expensive
 
Hi Guys thanks all for the congrats. My interview experience is a short one.

Got to the embassy by 5.20am. Waited outside where it was super chilly just like everyone before me had said,so i went equipped with two heavy sweater but that still was not enough seeing as am from Msa I was still freezing.
At 6 am people line up women on your left and men on the right, spouses are told to align such that they are in the same position with each other in their respective lines.
Body search then ensued then you lined up for interview date confirmation or something like that. then another body search and bag scan,where you leave all electronics(phones, laptops, earphones, flash disks etc).
Then we proceed inside now where you go get your number and wait outside the freezing waiting area for your number to be called. DV guys go to counter 4 /5 where your present copy and original Police Cert, Birth Cert, KCSE Cert, Passport and Passport Pic and you get back you old pp pics and 1st NL.Here they ask you some questions(have you ever committed a crime, are you married, do you have kids, have you ever been to the US) By the way I heard some Rwandan dude give a good answer when asked if he is married?He laughed and then told the lady to help him find a wife lol.
At this juncture when asked if I wished to change my POE, I did.

You wait for another like 15 to 20 minutes to be called to counter 9/10.

The interview(2 Minutes or less)

(after taking your finger prints)

Have you ever been married?

Do you have kids?

What is the relationship you have with your host?

Congratulations, I have approved your visa....am giving you a paper with details of a site blah blah blah i had already switched off and was just waiting to start walking towards the exit.I confirmed the time with someone outside it was 8am when I was done with the whole thing so 2 hours ain'tso long.
 
pose said:
Hi Guys thanks all for the congrats. My interview experience is a short one.

Got to the embassy by 5.20am. Waited outside where it was super chilly just like everyone before me had said,so i went equipped with two heavy sweater but that still was not enough seeing as am from Msa I was still freezing.
At 6 am people line up women on your left and men on the right, spouses are told to align such that they are in the same position with each other in their respective lines.
Body search then ensued then you lined up for interview date confirmation or something like that. then another body search and bag scan,where you leave all electronics(phones, laptops, earphones, flash disks etc).
Then we proceed inside now where you go get your number and wait outside the freezing waiting area for your number to be called. DV guys go to counter 4 /5 where your present copy and original Police Cert, Birth Cert, KCSE Cert, Passport and Passport Pic and you get back you old pp pics and 1st NL.Here they ask you some questions(have you ever committed a crime, are you married, do you have kids, have you ever been to the US) By the way I heard some Rwandan dude give a good answer when asked if he is married?He laughed and then told the lady to help him find a wife lol.
At this juncture when asked if I wished to change my POE, I did.

You wait for another like 15 to 20 minutes to be called to counter 9/10.

The interview(2 Minutes or less)

(after taking your finger prints)

Have you ever been married?

Do you have kids?

What is the relationship you have with your host?

Congratulations, I have approved your visa....am giving you a paper with details of a site blah blah blah i had already switched off and was just waiting to start walking towards the exit.I confirmed the time with someone outside it was 8am when I was done with the whole thing so 2 hours ain'tso long.
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Awesome POSE....congratulations my friend...I am getting more excited as my D-Day gets nearer which is in 3 days time. All the best with the preps
 
Jonge said:
8th September
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tyt said:
what do u mean mrs denied ?? Whyv try to break people heart in this forum??
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No,he just said and i quote "Concluding: as an African village boy with the famed "six figure" income in Europe (US$ wise), perhaps I should take comfort in the fact that my visa slot will be re-allocated to someone more deserving." My question is ,who else deserve the VISA MORE THAN TYT?He,just encouraged you to fight tooth and nail.
 
Jonge said:
Awesome POSE....congratulations my friend...I am getting more excited as my D-Day gets nearer which is in 3 days time. All the best with the preps
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Thanks Jonge,cannot wait to read your interview success as well on the 8th September.
 
Simon said:
No,he just said and i quote "Concluding: as an African village boy with the famed "six figure" income in Europe (US$ wise), perhaps I should take comfort in the fact that my visa slot will be re-allocated to someone more deserving." My question is ,who else deserve the VISA MORE THAN TYT?He,just encouraged you to fight tooth and nail.
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simon, hi, are you dv 2015 or 2014?#curious
 
Hy folks happy to see guys successful in the house wishing all the remainin folks a successful interview and all the best to all those relocating. all the best to all those goin for their interviews next week


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Psalms 48;14

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