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SusieQQQ said:
Wow. Just, wow. Now imagine the poor person who has not been hanging around here and just accepted all that...

(Btw if I understood what she said correctly, it does actually matter for you/this case that your name is on your mailbox - USPS will not deliver the green card otherwise.)
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Lol, well actually what she said last was also BS because a new immigrant would have to have filled in a form for the post office, and I didn't, but hey, at least she felt like something she said was right.

And yeah, people go there and listen to the misinformation, it is no wonder people get in a mess. And she has been there 12 years!
 
Britsimon said:
Lol, well actually what she said last was also BS because a new immigrant would have to have filled in a form for the post office, and I didn't, but hey, at least she felt like something she said was right.
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On the other forum they specifically tell people if they are staying at friends for example to make sure their names are on the boxes or USPS won't deliver, and people have confirmed that when they have followed up non-delivery with USPS that has been given as a reason. My father had heard similar elsewhere and put all our names on his box to ensure delivery of the official stuff.
 
@ britsimon,
Man that's freacky ! I just finished reading your post about the infopass, What a hell !? I never expected that from the US administration to be so incompetent :(

And because I don't understand the AOS process, can you tel me why didn't you go for the infopass earlier ? And why is the other nepalese lucky guys, has already done his interview faster than CP people ?
 
SusieQQQ said:
On the other forum they specifically tell people if they are staying at friends for example to make sure their names are on the boxes or USPS won't deliver, and people have confirmed that when they have followed up non-delivery with USPS that has been given as a reason. My father had heard similar elsewhere and put all our names on his box to ensure delivery of the official stuff.
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So how am I getting any mail??
 
vladek15425 said:
@ britsimon,
Man that's freacky ! I just finished reading your post about the infopass, What a hell !? I never expected that from the US administration to be so incompetent :(

And because I don't understand the AOS process, can you tel me why didn't you go for the infopass earlier ? And why is the other nepalese lucky guys, has already done his interview faster than CP people ?
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Time varies, competence varies. This woman confiremed our background checks said no derogatories, we have done the bio, everything is ready and has been for weeks. But some fool (very senior fool) decided to do all db interviews in September. Idiotic, incorrect, and unfair - but this person is empowered to make that bad decision.

Info passes aren't always available. I jumped on one a couple of weeks ago, but I had been giving the expedite time to have effect.
 
Britsimon said:
Just back. That was "enlightening"!

I have been working on my relaxation skills for days so I would remain calm for the infopass. My wife has been especially concerned for me to stay calm. However, that went wrong in the first 30 seconds of the (very nice) lady talking. "Oh sorry you can't adjust status with a DV win and we don't process the cases here - we only do Family based cases. You need to go back to your country and apply there". Seriously.

So - I spent the next 75 minutes (no kidding) explaining the process, the rules, the timeframes. Everything. She also got her supervisor involved, and eventually they "realized" I wasn't a misinformed nut job. My daughter file had been sent to Texas for some inexplicable reason. As for the expedite she casually mentioned they had denied that, but backed down on that later on (because it isn't true).

She and the supervisor finally got their story as the section chief has decided that all DV interviews for SFO will be scheduled in September - and the chief is adamant that this approach is fine.

She was very misinformed on so many things.
  • She thought the visas are reserved when the case becomes current (June 1 for me). I explained, no, the visa is pulled from SEVIS when they do the interview.
  • She thought these cases can go past Sept 30 (telling me a story of how citizenship can be done). I showed her the 9 FAM rules to reject that claim.
  • She thought these cases can be submitted way earlier. I showed her the policy memo.
  • She claimed the policy memo didn't apply to them until I pointed out the "scope" on the document clearly covered all USCIS staff.
  • She thought there would be plenty of visas for all - I showed her printouts that explain even USCIS now are saying visas will be exhausted at the end of the year.
I asked her to get the section chief to read the policy memo and reminded her that my expedite request is still valid. She "promised" that I will be interviewed in September and that if I have not received my IL by Sept 1 I am to reappear on Sept 2 and request the supervisor. She gave me a yellow "Fast Pass" so I could get in on that date.

So - I am hoping they read the policy memo, and maybe set up August interview. However, I won't hold my breath.

She was very receptive and stated that she was going to warn people "not to mess with me" - which she meant "not to butter me up, but I clearly knew more than they do". She said in 12 years of working there she had never handled a DV case.

Lastly before I left she told me a story about how they are federal employees and that the post office are also federal employees and in my mailbox there will be my name to say I am "recognized" as being able to get mail. This story had NOTHING to do with DV in general or my case, but after 75 minutes the poor lady just wanted to say something I didn't contradict. Really.
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Honestly speaking, I thought I had heard it all regarding incompetent USCIS staff and I can't be shocked by any report again, but right now, I'm beyond shocked!:eek:

A 12 year USCIS veteran told you they don't handle DV based AOS and that you needed to go back home and process CP and that they only process family based AOS? For real? They do not even process employment or asylum based applications also? Jeepers creepers! And she's put upfront to attend to inquiries??? My goodness! She's always been at the SF FO and she's never heard of DV based AOS? The supervisor and the station chief equally are clueless! The SF FO used to be one of the reliable FOs who processed AOS cases on a timely basis. What da heck happened there?

Dang! Okay, it's time to up the ante. Involve your congress person now. There's no reason for the idiotic station chief to wait until September before interviewing AOS cases that are way past current. How my blood boils after reading this account :mad:
 
Sm1smom said:
Honestly speaking, I thought I had heard it all regarding incompetent USCIS staff and I can't be shocked by any report again, but right now, I'm beyond shocked!:eek:

A 12 year USCIS veteran told you they don't handle DV based AOS and that you needed to go back home and process CP and that they only process family based AOS? For real? They do not even process employment or asylum based applications also? Jeepers creepers! And she's put upfront to attend to inquiries??? My goodness! She's always been at the SF FO and she's never heard of DV based AOS? The supervisor and the station chief equally are clueless! The SF FO used to be one of the reliable FOs who processed AOS cases on a timely basis. What da heck happened there?

Dang! Okay, it's time to up the ante. Involve your congress person now. There's no reason for the idiotic station chief to wait until September before interviewing AOS cases that are way past current. How my blood boils after reading this account :mad:
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Mom I'm also speechless :(
And I agree about asking a congressman to act on this matter.
 
Sm1smom said:
Honestly speaking, I thought I had heard it all regarding incompetent USCIS staff and I can't be shocked by any report again, but right now, I'm beyond shocked!:eek:

A 12 year USCIS veteran told you they don't handle DV based AOS and that you needed to go back home and process CP and that they only process family based AOS? For real? They do not even process employment or asylum based applications also? Jeepers creepers! And she's put upfront to attend to inquiries??? My goodness! She's always been at the SF FO and she's never heard of DV based AOS? The supervisor and the station chief equally are clueless! The SF FO used to be one of the reliable FOs who processed AOS cases on a timely basis. What da heck happened there?

Dang! Okay, it's time to up the ante. Involve your congress person now. There's no reason for the idiotic station chief to wait until September before interviewing AOS cases that are way past current. How my blood boils after reading this account :mad:
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Crazy huh. I didnt embellish at all. It started at breathtakingly bad and descended into surreally bad. Just about to start the congressman process!
 
Britsimon said:
So how am I getting any mail??
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Oh yeah, what Susie said regarding USPS is actually accurate. While USPS has no problem delivering all other types of mail to an address whose resident is not listed with them, it's a different ball game when it comes to government mail, especially GC. They claim that because of he sensitive nature of the document, they're unable to deliver to uncertified mail boxes. There have been reported cases of returned GC (and sometimes bio and interview letters) being returned as undeliverable because of this.
 
You know how someone usually spends some time explaining before they involve the supervisor. This lady was literally calling for the supervisor about 75 seconds after the conversation started. Like I said, the yoga didn't help after the first 30 seconds....
 
Sm1smom said:
Oh yeah, what Susie said regarding USPS is actually accurate. While USPS has no problem delivering all other types of mail to an address whose resident is not listed with them, it's a different ball game when it comes to government mail, especially GC. They claim that because of he sensitive nature of the document, they're unable to deliver to uncertified mail boxes. There have been reported cases of returned GC (and sometimes bio and interview letters) being returned as undeliverable because of this.
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Ahhh official guberment mail huh. I have however had several uscis letters, DMV letters and so on. I think my postman might be a bit more laid back - probably the medical tobacco. I'm gonna inspect my mailbox and yeah, I'll be sticking my names in that mailbox just in case.
 
By the way Mom, I should point out that by the end she was openly admitting she knew nothing and agreed the wait was ridiculous. She was "won over" but powerless at that point - so although I was correcting her, i wasnt rude, just very "clear".

She said she wanted to help me and Typed up a record of visit saying (a couple of times) it would "help" me. She said it as if it were a "secret" or something she shouldn't be doing for me. Any idea what she meant?
 
Britsimon said:
By the way Mom, I should point out that by the end she was openly admitting she knew nothing and agreed the wait was ridiculous. She was "won over" but powerless at that point - so although I was correcting her, i wasnt rude, just very "clear".

She said she wanted to help me and Typed up a record of visit saying (a couple of times) it would "help" me. She said it as if it were a "secret" or something she shouldn't be doing for me. Any idea what she meant?
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My impression is that she's just trying to make sound like she's doing you a favour that she's not suppose to, but its all bollocks IMO.
But at least she's trying to make it up for you, and its good that you weren't rude with her mate, because she doesn't seem comptent and helpfull but she can be verry harmfull I'm sure ....
 
urbanite said:
Hi Mom and all

Little update from me. I had my Biometrics done today. (One less to do), so I'll be in the waiting mode the Interview Letter and the appointment. I'm current in August and my interview will be handled through New York-FO.

My question when should I start to get an infopass and get the congressman involved. What is the amount of time I should allow before taking those steps, 2-3 weeks ?

Thank you Mom
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Look into booking an infopass now to take place in about 2 weeks time. If there's no update within that time, then you attend the infopass appointment. Start with that for now.
 
Britsimon said:
Ahhh official guberment mail huh. I have however had several uscis letters, DMV letters and so on. I think my postman might be a bit more laid back - probably the medical tobacco. I'm gonna inspect my mailbox and yeah, I'll be sticking my names in that mailbox just in case.
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It's mostly USCIS mail they treat as such, but since you've already received your bio letter and other USCIS mail at that address you should be fine.
 
Britsimon said:
You know how someone usually spends some time explaining before they involve the supervisor. This lady was literally calling for the supervisor about 75 seconds after the conversation started. Like I said, the yoga didn't help after the first 30 seconds....
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Oh! The poor thing :oops::D
 
Britsimon said:
By the way Mom, I should point out that by the end she was openly admitting she knew nothing and agreed the wait was ridiculous. She was "won over" but powerless at that point - so although I was correcting her, i wasnt rude, just very "clear".

She said she wanted to help me and Typed up a record of visit saying (a couple of times) it would "help" me. She said it as if it were a "secret" or something she shouldn't be doing for me. Any idea what she meant?
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I think whatever the case, your visit most likely has set things rolling in the background, just how fast that movement is likely to be though is still had to tell. I guess the station chief is equally new both to the position and the FO hence the decision. Hopefully they have other IOs who are DV knowledgeable, they will most likely step forward once they read of your visit and try to intervene somehow.

Just hang in there bro and try to improve on those yoga techniques of keeping calm ;)
 
Britsimon said:
Time varies, competence varies. This woman confiremed our background checks said no derogatories, we have done the bio, everything is ready and has been for weeks. But some fool (very senior fool) decided to do all db interviews in September. Idiotic, incorrect, and unfair - but this person is empowered to make that bad decision.

Info passes aren't always available. I jumped on one a couple of weeks ago, but I had been giving the expedite time to have effect.
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What!!? I feel hopeless again...
how can we do??
Do we have any chance if we interview in Sep.???
So worry...
 
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