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Dv 2012

55000 EB2 Visas By Abolishing DV Lottery
To abolish the DV Lottery and move those numbers -
55,000 visas per year - to advanced degree holders of US
universities

To actual useful people with proper SKILLS, not people like you wanting a cheap ride into the US. Stay in you're own country and make something of yourself then try entry again into the US and you will be actually contribute something to the United States economy and not be worthless...
What's the point? EB2 is current 99% of the year for all except India and mainland China.
 
You're so smart huh? Then why are you not smart enough to have a good enough job to move to the United States or even attend college there for that matter? Point proven exactly, you're just a worthless cheap immigrant we don't need. Stay in you're own country and make it a better place for everybody there if you're that smart, instead of attempting to leave it and making it worse for everybody else.

Stay in you're country, the USA does not want you kthxbye.

We just found out that you are an immigrant yoursel usatruth. What a shame! It is thrue that "The biggest immigrant's enemy is the immigrant who arrived before"
 
You're so smart huh? Then why are you not smart enough to have a good enough job to move to the United States or even attend college there for that matter? Point proven exactly, you're just a worthless cheap immigrant we don't need. Stay in you're own country and make it a better place for everybody there if you're that smart, instead of attempting to leave it and making it worse for everybody else.

Stay in you're country, the USA does not want you kthxbye.
Just to help with your grammar a little:
you're = you are
your is NOT the same as you're. So it would be "your country", not "you're country". you're country means "you are country", which, I am certain, is not what you meant.
 
Just to help with your grammar a little:
you're = you are
your is NOT the same as you're. So it would be "your country", not "you're country". you're country means "you are country", which, I am certain, is not what you meant.

What is your point there? You do know American's can't spell.
 
This year Republican House member Darrell Issa introduced a Bill in Congress that proposes to eliminate the Diversity Visa Lottery, also known as “the Green Card or DV Lottery”. The Diversity Visa Lottery is a very popular annual program which allows foreign nationals from most countries in the world to enter a lottery and apply for the chance to win one of 55,000 available Immigrant Visas to obtain a Green Card in the United States. The Bill (H.R. 43) proposes to abolish the DV Lottery and instead give the 55,000 visas per year to foreign nationals who have obtained an advanced degree from a U.S. university.
My understanding is that both H.R.399 and H. R. 43 do not have sufficient backing in the House and senate, and as things stand right now, there is NO chance of either getting Senate approval.
 
You're so smart huh? Then why are you not smart enough to have a good enough job to move to the United States or even attend college there for that matter? Point proven exactly, you're just a worthless cheap immigrant we don't need. Stay in you're own country and make it a better place for everybody there if you're that smart, instead of attempting to leave it and making it worse for everybody else.

Stay in you're country, the USA does not want you kthxbye.

Lolumad?
What mystical powers of deduction led you to the conclusion that I'm not college educated?
 
This year Republican House member Darrell Issa introduced a Bill in Congress that proposes to eliminate the Diversity Visa Lottery, also known as “the Green Card or DV Lottery”. The Diversity Visa Lottery is a very popular annual program which allows foreign nationals from most countries in the world to enter a lottery and apply for the chance to win one of 55,000 available Immigrant Visas to obtain a Green Card in the United States. The Bill (H.R. 43) proposes to abolish the DV Lottery and instead give the 55,000 visas per year to foreign nationals who have obtained an advanced degree from a U.S. university.

They have been introducing a similar bill for the past number of years, and it never passed or even made it to the floor for a vote. Usual Republican crap to wrap themselves in the patriotic bs that they're trying to protect Americans' jobs when they're the first ones to help big business ship jobs overseas.
 
Heard that DOS refused to make a deal with the lawyers,so they're planning to sue.

Do people really think the DOS will settle ?!? SMH! Did the people planning to sue pay DOS for a GC and get ripped off? , Did the DOS promise GC to anyone and then back out of their promise? If they answered NO to any of the questions, then they should know why DOS refused to settle. Whoever is still deceiving themselves at this point needs to wake up fast! July 15th is fast approaching instead of wasting time and resources filing a lawsuit that will eventually be thrown out,people should invest their time praying and getting the documents they will need if they are eventually chosen. An error was made, the GC selection process built its foundation on being a fair process of random allocation, and they think DOS will change that because some people who were chosen due to an ''error'' want to sue...I am going to sit back and watch how this unfolds :rolleyes:
 
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Phronesis thats what we are all going to do"Sit and watch".I just want to see where it will end at,but l doubt it will yeild any fruits.Btw what may be happening is that some of the lawyers who are filling this case have not been paid yet.They may be paid by the govt. for their expenses if they win the case,if they fail to win too bad no payment...
 
Phronesis thats what we are all going to do"Sit and watch".I just want to see where it will end at,but l doubt it will yeild any fruits.Btw what may be happening is that some of the lawyers who are filling this case have not been paid yet.They may be paid by the govt. for their expenses if they win the case,if they fail to win too bad no payment...

Maju, the lawyers are paid whether they win the case or not. They get a downpayment not from the government but whoever files a suit , in this case the government is not filing the suit hence they have no business paying anyone; and if you win the case, you still pay them a certain percent of the winnings which was agreed upon, so either way, they got nothing to lose only the person who is sueing that in this case has everything to lose
 
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Maju, the lawyers are paid whether they win the case or not. They get paid a downpayment when they are filing the case and if you win the case, you pay them a certain percent of the winnings, so either way, they got nothing to lose only the person who is sueing that in this case has everything to lose

As you say Phronesis, its quite sad what these people are wasting their time in doing. Doesn't it feel awkward suing a machine - because the error was not made by human but just simple machines that are man made. They're just asking to be blacklisted in future lotteries or (God Forbid) the cancellation of the whole program in the future! This act is just out of pure selfishness. They're doing this purely for selfish reasons! 22000 out of 14,700,000 is only 0.15% of all applicants . . .and they think they will shout loud enough to be heard!!! I would want nothing to do with that petition even if I had been selected!
 
As you say Phronesis, its quite sad what these people are wasting their time in doing. Doesn't it feel awkward suing a machine - because the error was not made by human but just simple machines that are man made. They're just asking to be blacklisted in future lotteries or (God Forbid) the cancellation of the whole program in the future! This act is just out of pure selfishness. They're doing this purely for selfish reasons! 22000 out of 14,700,000 is only 0.15% of all applicants . . .and they think they will shout loud enough to be heard!!! I would want nothing to do with that petition even if I had been selected!

"Doesn't it feel awkward suing a machine":D never even thought of it that way....How true Shihabmh , how does one expect to be taken seriously when one is trying to get something by any means necessary , it doesnt show determination, it shows a serious lack of scruples , trying to cheat to get what you think you deserve...sigh. I shall sit and watch how this unfolds, its already summer i need a good movie to watch and this fits the bill perfectly:)
 
There is a group, named US Green Card Lottery DV-2012 - 22,000 winners can't be ignored on facebook that are actively suing without let up. These guys are so persistent. For e.g. they are trying to communicate with Oprah, Mr. Donahue, direct media, Congress, Obama etc.!!
 
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What is disturbing about the Facebook group is that they are so desperate their judgement is clearly clouded or they would question and look closer at White & Associates. No one works for free so this firm must have an agenda as something is clearly not quite there and things just don't seem to sit together. Mr White, the lawyer, is cunning enough to ask people to sign forms agreeing to put their name as plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit without any explanation about possible ramifications to these poor people's future. They may never get approved for a B2 tourist visa ever again, or get their student F1s renewed or their work H1Bs. He doesn't say a word about any of this but keeps deathly silent. Everything is roses, there is hope, just follow this, just sign this. Meanwhile, the Facebook leaders are asking people everyday send in your name, send in your name, send the forms, sign the forms, yes yes do it, do all Mr White tells you. Half the Facebook people barely even understand enough English and are just not sophisticated enough so they are led along like sheep. But Mr White is very clever because he has a disclaimer in his form these people do NOT have an attorney-client relationship with him so in years to come, if they find they are always rejected for tourist visas etc, they can't turn around and hold him accountable. No one can predict anything about how the government will react but everyone knows after 911, the US do not like foreigners, they are very suspicious of everyone and if you are not for them, then you are against them. So if you are brazen enough to sue them, then don't expect them to forgive or forget anytime, and your name in that law suit that you so happily signed up to may haunt you in years to come.

The Facebook group are also very quick to shoot down anyone who tries to say the result is really not random even when they have something to back this up and they are just trying to offer a different perspective. Instead, people try to just shut you up and go with the usual yes, yes, we are truly winners, we must get our Green Card. But then again these are the same people who are foolish enough to do anything without even looking properly at their actions and its potential impact for their own future.
 
What is disturbing about the Facebook group is that they are so desperate their judgement is clearly clouded or they would question and look closer at White & Associates. No one works for free so this firm must have an agenda as something is clearly not quite there and things just don't seem to sit together. Mr White, the lawyer, is cunning enough to ask people to sign forms agreeing to put their name as plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit without any explanation about possible ramifications to these poor people's future. They may never get approved for a B2 tourist visa ever again, or get their student F1s renewed or their work H1Bs. He doesn't say a word about any of this but keeps deathly silent. Everything is roses, there is hope, just follow this, just sign this. Meanwhile, the Facebook leaders are asking people everyday send in your name, send in your name, send the forms, sign the forms, yes yes do it, do all Mr White tells you. Half the Facebook people barely even understand enough English and are just not sophisticated enough so they are led along like sheep. But Mr White is very clever because he has a disclaimer in his form these people do NOT have an attorney-client relationship with him so in years to come, if they find they are always rejected for tourist visas etc, they can't turn around and hold him accountable. No one can predict anything about how the government will react but everyone knows after 911, the US do not like foreigners, they are very suspicious of everyone and if you are not for them, then you are against them. So if you are brazen enough to sue them, then don't expect them to forgive or forget anytime, and your name in that law suit that you so happily signed up to may haunt you in years to come.

The Facebook group are also very quick to shoot down anyone who tries to say the result is really not random even when they have something to back this up and they are just trying to offer a different perspective. Instead, people try to just shut you up and go with the usual yes, yes, we are truly winners, we must get our Green Card. But then again these are the same people who are foolish enough to do anything without even looking properly at their actions and its potential impact for their own future.


This is quite frightening, i am really scared for these people, Do they know what that disclaimer means at all??!!? Dear Lord! You said it all jeroen0
 
What is disturbing about the Facebook group is that they are so desperate their judgement is clearly clouded or they would question and look closer at White & Associates. No one works for free so this firm must have an agenda as something is clearly not quite there and things just don't seem to sit together. Mr White, the lawyer, is cunning enough to ask people to sign forms agreeing to put their name as plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit without any explanation about possible ramifications to these poor people's future. They may never get approved for a B2 tourist visa ever again, or get their student F1s renewed or their work H1Bs. He doesn't say a word about any of this but keeps deathly silent. Everything is roses, there is hope, just follow this, just sign this. Meanwhile, the Facebook leaders are asking people everyday send in your name, send in your name, send the forms, sign the forms, yes yes do it, do all Mr White tells you. Half the Facebook people barely even understand enough English and are just not sophisticated enough so they are led along like sheep. But Mr White is very clever because he has a disclaimer in his form these people do NOT have an attorney-client relationship with him so in years to come, if they find they are always rejected for tourist visas etc, they can't turn around and hold him accountable. No one can predict anything about how the government will react but everyone knows after 911, the US do not like foreigners, they are very suspicious of everyone and if you are not for them, then you are against them. So if you are brazen enough to sue them, then don't expect them to forgive or forget anytime, and your name in that law suit that you so happily signed up to may haunt you in years to come.

The Facebook group are also very quick to shoot down anyone who tries to say the result is really not random even when they have something to back this up and they are just trying to offer a different perspective. Instead, people try to just shut you up and go with the usual yes, yes, we are truly winners, we must get our Green Card. But then again these are the same people who are foolish enough to do anything without even looking properly at their actions and its potential impact for their own future.



Ramifications??? We don't care!!!!! If anything....we are concerned of the ramifications of cowardliness. "To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled – because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are called patience and forbearance." by Friedrich Nietzsche
 
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