do I become a US citizen or a US national after N-400 process???

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Sandra500

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I am a little confused about something here... after I succesfully completed my N-400 process and been approved and take oath, do I become a US citizen or a US national? Or are the two the same thing?

I was just looking at my grandchild's US passport(born here) His passport has a line that say "Nationality: United States of America" I mean, are there US passports that says something else under the "Nationaly:" line?

Thanks for helping me clear this up.... :D
 
Sandra500 said:
I am a little confused about something here... after I succesfully completed my N-400 process and been approved and take oath, do I become a US citizen or a US national? Or are the two the same thing?

I was just looking at my grandchild's US passport(born here) His passport has a line that say "Nationality: United States of America" I mean, are there US passports that says something else under the "Nationaly:" line?

Thanks for helping me clear this up.... :D
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You can call it US National or US Citizen whatever you like. You will be called both after you take the oath.
 
Sandra500 said:
I am a little confused about something here... after I succesfully completed my N-400 process and been approved and take oath, do I become a US citizen or a US national? Or are the two the same thing?

I was just looking at my grandchild's US passport(born here) His passport has a line that say "Nationality: United States of America" I mean, are there US passports that says something else under the "Nationaly:" line?

Thanks for helping me clear this up.... :D
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You'll be given a naturalization certificate at the oath which will state US citizen and be proof of your US citizenship status. With this certificate, you can then apply for a passport if you intend to travel outside the US.
 
You become a US national if you refuse to take the Oath. Only after taking the Oath you become citizen. This is this simple,and no.it's not the same thing.
 
I love the hair splitting that goes on, on this forum, are you a human, a person or a man/woman, you can decide, after oath of allegiance your citizenship will be American(USA) and your nationality will also be American(USA) claiming otherwise may jeopardize your US status.
 
USER2345 said:
You become a US national if you refuse to take the Oath. Only after taking the Oath you become citizen. This is this simple,and no.it's not the same thing.
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An applicant who refuses to take the oath doesn't become a US national. That applicant is considered to have abandoned his application and falls back to his most recent immigrant status. 8 CFR 1401 and 8 CFR 1408 goes into detail on what a US national is; someone who owes permanent allegiance to the US but is not a US citizen.
 
Correct. I believe there is also a provision for them to upgrade to US citizenship once they move to the mainland and live for a year.

boatbod said:
As far as I know, the only people who are US Nationals but not US Citizens are people from American Samoa and Swains Island.
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