IF THE EMPLOYER NOTIFIES BEC THAT THE ORIGINAL BENEFICIARY IS NO LONGER EMPLOYED, THE EMPLOYER MAY SUBSTITUTE ANOTHER SIMILARLY QUALIFIED APPLICANT PRIOR TO CERTIFICATION. THE EMPLOYER MAY ALSO SUBSTITUTE AFTER CERT BUT MUST APPLY THROUGH USCIS.IndiraGandhi said:
Dallas Backlog Elimination Center Tracking
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Zany_Brainy
Registered Users (C)
Icarus..
Please tell us how some cases like our from May 02 are having no progress while you guys are doing 09/02. If it is by PD, all older cases should have been analyzed already before the queue moved to 09/02 right?
thanks
ZB
Icarus said:
Please tell us how some cases like our from May 02 are having no progress while you guys are doing 09/02. If it is by PD, all older cases should have been analyzed already before the queue moved to 09/02 right?
thanks
ZB
This is my opinion about certification queue at Dallas
I think that estimate that we were making before was wrong.....Look at the table below....As the COs have certified about 3000 cases so far, then this certifying queue should be at April, 2001 stage...Even though, cases are being analyzed for 9/02 month but they pile up at CO's table. So i am sure that this certifying queue is still at April 2001 stage... We can ignore those exceptions (i.e some cases certified of july/august-02 and one case of 2003...those may be special cases or some thing else that we dont know)...............
ZB, gp111, Mnhrdc and all other gurus......what's your opinion about it?
RIR CASES PENDING/MONTH
Cases Month Year
... ... ...
15 1 2001
36 2 2001
155 3 2001
5546 4 2001<-- Dallas CO/Final Approval Queue should be Here
192 5 2001
281 6 2001
338 7 2001
351 8 2001
351 9 2001
419 10 2001
282 11 2001
333 12 2001
361 1 2002
388 2 2002
555 3 2002
660 4 2002
1022 5 2002
1261 6 2002
1641 7 2002
1526 8 2002
1593 9 2002<--Dallas Analysis Queue is here
1465 10 2002
1403 11 2002
1781 12 2002
1941 1 2003
1921 2 2003
1947 3 2003
2122 4 2003
2184 5 2003
2014 6 2003
2151 7 2003
1950 8 2003
2129 9 2003
2007 10 2003
1304 11 2003
1619 12 2003
1250 1 2004
1061 2 2004
854 3 2004
603 4 2004
530 5 2004
518 6 2004
407 7 2004
684 8 2004
54 9 2004
gp111 said:
I think that estimate that we were making before was wrong.....Look at the table below....As the COs have certified about 3000 cases so far, then this certifying queue should be at April, 2001 stage...Even though, cases are being analyzed for 9/02 month but they pile up at CO's table. So i am sure that this certifying queue is still at April 2001 stage... We can ignore those exceptions (i.e some cases certified of july/august-02 and one case of 2003...those may be special cases or some thing else that we dont know)...............
ZB, gp111, Mnhrdc and all other gurus......what's your opinion about it?
RIR CASES PENDING/MONTH
Cases Month Year
... ... ...
15 1 2001
36 2 2001
155 3 2001
5546 4 2001<-- Dallas CO/Final Approval Queue should be Here
192 5 2001
281 6 2001
338 7 2001
351 8 2001
351 9 2001
419 10 2001
282 11 2001
333 12 2001
361 1 2002
388 2 2002
555 3 2002
660 4 2002
1022 5 2002
1261 6 2002
1641 7 2002
1526 8 2002
1593 9 2002<--Dallas Analysis Queue is here
1465 10 2002
1403 11 2002
1781 12 2002
1941 1 2003
1921 2 2003
1947 3 2003
2122 4 2003
2184 5 2003
2014 6 2003
2151 7 2003
1950 8 2003
2129 9 2003
2007 10 2003
1304 11 2003
1619 12 2003
1250 1 2004
1061 2 2004
854 3 2004
603 4 2004
530 5 2004
518 6 2004
407 7 2004
684 8 2004
54 9 2004
Zany_Brainy
Registered Users (C)
Nope..
GCNoway was no special case...His PD is April End 2002, his case was certified on 17th May (nearly a month ago)
Something is wrong in the queue software. I know for example that my case is in the RIR queue with a PD of May 2002 and It has not been analyzed yet. (Not been pulled from queue).. How can that happen if the cases are being processed by PD?
No reasoning works..
ZB
sfoguy said:I think that estimate that we were making before was wrong.....Look at the table below....As the COs have certified about 3000 cases so far, then this certifying queue should be at April, 2001 stage...Even though, cases are being analyzed for 9/02 month but they pile up at CO's table. So i am sure that this certifying queue is still at April 2001 stage... We can ignore those exceptions (i.e some cases certified of july/august-02 and one case of 2003...those may be special cases or some thing else that we dont know)...............
ZB, gp111, Mnhrdc and all other gurus......what's your opinion about it?
RIR CASES PENDING/MONTH
Cases Month Year
... ... ...
15 1 2001
36 2 2001
155 3 2001
5546 4 2001<-- Dallas CO/Final Approval Queue should be Here
192 5 2001
281 6 2001
338 7 2001
351 8 2001
351 9 2001
419 10 2001
282 11 2001
333 12 2001
361 1 2002
388 2 2002
555 3 2002
660 4 2002
1022 5 2002
1261 6 2002
1641 7 2002
1526 8 2002
1593 9 2002<--Dallas Analysis Queue is here
1465 10 2002
1403 11 2002
1781 12 2002
1941 1 2003
1921 2 2003
1947 3 2003
2122 4 2003
2184 5 2003
2014 6 2003
2151 7 2003
1950 8 2003
2129 9 2003
2007 10 2003
1304 11 2003
1619 12 2003
1250 1 2004
1061 2 2004
854 3 2004
603 4 2004
530 5 2004
518 6 2004
407 7 2004
684 8 2004
54 9 2004
GCNoway was no special case...His PD is April End 2002, his case was certified on 17th May (nearly a month ago)
Something is wrong in the queue software. I know for example that my case is in the RIR queue with a PD of May 2002 and It has not been analyzed yet. (Not been pulled from queue).. How can that happen if the cases are being processed by PD?
No reasoning works..
ZB
IndiraGandhi
Registered Users (C)
ICARUS, pls advise.
I really don't want to know your designation of your current employment at BEC, BUT if I provide you the case number that I received from my current employer, how complicated is this task if I asked you to check within your area of expertise? I don't want you to get it trouble if its too risky, I know I am not doing it the professional way, but YOU are the best approach to get the smuck out of water. I really don't want to ruin my level of intimacy to my current employer, as any scamper move would turn out to be negative.
Members of this forum are so great in sending me the peices of advice, I surely am greatful to all those members who passed valued comments by taking out their time and responding to my questions.
Icarus said:
I really don't want to know your designation of your current employment at BEC, BUT if I provide you the case number that I received from my current employer, how complicated is this task if I asked you to check within your area of expertise? I don't want you to get it trouble if its too risky, I know I am not doing it the professional way, but YOU are the best approach to get the smuck out of water. I really don't want to ruin my level of intimacy to my current employer, as any scamper move would turn out to be negative.
Members of this forum are so great in sending me the peices of advice, I surely am greatful to all those members who passed valued comments by taking out their time and responding to my questions.
cipher8000
Registered Users (C)
ICarus, Thanks very much
Thank you very much. If possible, can you please tell us when these 3000 certs will be mailed out?Icarus said:
Icarus said:
Icarus,
Thanks for the valuable update.
On the other hand I don't understand why DOL is so secretive which is leading to unnecessary anxiety and despair. It doesn't look like labor certifications are some classified secret
that they have to shroud in secrecy. All they have to do is give updates every 15 days (or a month) on what is going on. I am sure it is not rocket science to do some number crunching OR for the spokesperson to walk by the COs desk to gather an approximate picture of where things are at. The bottom line is that they need not paint an accurate picture of which date's LCs they are processing. All they need to do is give a reasonably picture to some extent.I think 6 months is more than enough for them to have got a grasp of what they have on their hands so as to start giving some concrete numbers and dates.
Nobody knows how many SWA cases have been opened for processing or when they will get processed. Nor do we know if regional cases and SWA cases are in separate queues or they are in one single queue being processed in FIFO (by PD and not RD) strictly. I appreciate your's and everybody else's updates, thoughts and analysis but what we need is a offcial DOL update. What is the best way of going about having them do this? Should we be writing a petition?
All of us know that software cannot be so buggy that it cannot maintain a simple queue system. I wish we had resonable answers so that we need not scratch our heads wondering what happened to 1000 cases before the latest approval we saw in this forum.
Just posting my info
I got an answer from Senator's De Wine office (OH)
with all these info
SORRY.. IT WAS RIR case!!!
Dallas Backlog Center - New case number: D-05013-27340
45 Day letter sent to employer on: 4/5/2005
Response received on: 5/6/2005
Priority Date is 6/6/2001 and currently working on 4/2001 ( the email is dated to the senator's office 7/12/2005)
I got an answer from Senator's De Wine office (OH)
with all these info
SORRY.. IT WAS RIR case!!!
Dallas Backlog Center - New case number: D-05013-27340
45 Day letter sent to employer on: 4/5/2005
Response received on: 5/6/2005
Priority Date is 6/6/2001 and currently working on 4/2001 ( the email is dated to the senator's office 7/12/2005)
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Auto response from Dallas
Here is what I have received from Dallas this morning:
(note: it says at the bottom "your patience is appreciated")
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Requestor,
You have reached the Dallas Backlog Elimination Center status inquiry mailbox. At this time, we are unable to provide status information on Permanent Labor Certifications. All Dallas Backlog Elimination Center files are being transferred to a new automated system. Once the data entry process is completed, a 45-Day Letter and Selection of Continuation Option letter will be issued on all applications providing a new case ID number and may request additional information from the employer.
If your request is in reference to the following, if acceptable, we will update your information as requested:
Address updates for attorney, employer, or alien
Change of attorney (or attorney address changes)
Aliens seeking status must contact their employer or attorney to obtain information.
For frequently asked questions, please visit the following Internet website:
http://atlas.doleta.gov/foreign/faqs.asp
To obtain general information regarding transfer times, please visit the following Internet website:
http://www.workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/foreign/times.asp
To obtain general information regarding the PERM System, please visit the Internet website below or use the e-mail address provided:
www.plc.doleta.gov
PERM.DFLC@dol.gov
There is no need to submit multiple requests. If you have not already received one, the next notices that you will receive from this office will be a 45-Day Letter and a Selection of Continuation Option letter.
If you are requesting a 7th year extension to an H-1B visa, please send an e-mail to:
h1b7yr@dal.dflc.us
Your patience is appreciated.
Here is what I have received from Dallas this morning:
(note: it says at the bottom "your patience is appreciated")
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Requestor,
You have reached the Dallas Backlog Elimination Center status inquiry mailbox. At this time, we are unable to provide status information on Permanent Labor Certifications. All Dallas Backlog Elimination Center files are being transferred to a new automated system. Once the data entry process is completed, a 45-Day Letter and Selection of Continuation Option letter will be issued on all applications providing a new case ID number and may request additional information from the employer.
If your request is in reference to the following, if acceptable, we will update your information as requested:
Address updates for attorney, employer, or alien
Change of attorney (or attorney address changes)
Aliens seeking status must contact their employer or attorney to obtain information.
For frequently asked questions, please visit the following Internet website:
http://atlas.doleta.gov/foreign/faqs.asp
To obtain general information regarding transfer times, please visit the following Internet website:
http://www.workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/foreign/times.asp
To obtain general information regarding the PERM System, please visit the Internet website below or use the e-mail address provided:
www.plc.doleta.gov
PERM.DFLC@dol.gov
There is no need to submit multiple requests. If you have not already received one, the next notices that you will receive from this office will be a 45-Day Letter and a Selection of Continuation Option letter.
If you are requesting a 7th year extension to an H-1B visa, please send an e-mail to:
h1b7yr@dal.dflc.us
Your patience is appreciated.
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Can it be.....
To all the gurus can it be as follows...
Rule : FILO as per BEC. It is impossible to make it strictly go through FIFO. Finally they will make you go through the FIFO only. It may be controlled at the CO level. Here is how.
There is EB2 and EB3.
I gone through the tracker most certified belongs to EB3, only two belong to EB2.
1. Even if they certify the EB3 for 2002 or 2003 it doesn't make any difference for the beneficiary, he has to wait on the line for the next stage because 140 & 485 is at 2001. if your 2001 case is certified late, still you have advantage over the previous approval. so there is no need to go strictly go through the FIFO, instead of sitting idle, they are approving the EB3.
2. I think the EB2 cases certified are special handling cases. If the 2002 and 2003 EB2 cases are certified then it is unjustice because there may be 2001 cases which are not entered in to the system etc., If 2002 & 2003 cases are certified then they will go to the next stage 140 &485 and take advantage as visa numbers are available. So they are waiting for the EB2 oldest cases to be available for certification.
I think ZB etc.. cases belongs to EB2, thats the reason you are saying that you didn't hear any thing from them.
If this analysis is true... Please don't cry that later PD applications are getting certified!!
Can this be ... True...
To all the gurus can it be as follows...
Rule : FILO as per BEC. It is impossible to make it strictly go through FIFO. Finally they will make you go through the FIFO only. It may be controlled at the CO level. Here is how.
There is EB2 and EB3.
I gone through the tracker most certified belongs to EB3, only two belong to EB2.
1. Even if they certify the EB3 for 2002 or 2003 it doesn't make any difference for the beneficiary, he has to wait on the line for the next stage because 140 & 485 is at 2001. if your 2001 case is certified late, still you have advantage over the previous approval. so there is no need to go strictly go through the FIFO, instead of sitting idle, they are approving the EB3.
2. I think the EB2 cases certified are special handling cases. If the 2002 and 2003 EB2 cases are certified then it is unjustice because there may be 2001 cases which are not entered in to the system etc., If 2002 & 2003 cases are certified then they will go to the next stage 140 &485 and take advantage as visa numbers are available. So they are waiting for the EB2 oldest cases to be available for certification.
I think ZB etc.. cases belongs to EB2, thats the reason you are saying that you didn't hear any thing from them.
If this analysis is true... Please don't cry that later PD applications are getting certified!!
Can this be ... True...
Time frame from Dallas BEC
Hi,
I would like to know how mcu time still I need to wait for my Labor approval from Dallas BEC, Mine is PD 0ct 2003,45 day leter recived and repiled in Feb,05
Please share your knowledge as I think somebody on this forum who are in the sae boat like me ,has made some research .
Please help get some idea as I seriously thinking of going to PERM.
Can I expect reasaonbly in few months about the final outcome of my case ??
Thanks!
Hi,
I would like to know how mcu time still I need to wait for my Labor approval from Dallas BEC, Mine is PD 0ct 2003,45 day leter recived and repiled in Feb,05
Please share your knowledge as I think somebody on this forum who are in the sae boat like me ,has made some research .
Please help get some idea as I seriously thinking of going to PERM.
Can I expect reasaonbly in few months about the final outcome of my case ??
Thanks!
pvr2pvr said:
No Offence...
There is No distinction between EB-2 & EB-3 when it comes to Labor Certification Or even processing of Labor Certification. It only comes to picture when you file for I-140.
There is a reason why you have seen more EB3 type LC approvals then Eb2 type. Because there is always More LC of that type in queue then the other ones.
For DOL Processing Officiers / COs, the thing matters are How Complete & accurate the information is.. How well the recruitment is done, Wage offered & qualifications/experience of employee matches with Job requirements.
why only few random approvals ??? ONLY GOD & DOL knows.