Back from COP
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pbeshai said:
I don't think they will even care about your past travels during your citizenship interview, it's years away anyway. Legally there is no such a thing as denying your citizenship based on your previous travel to COP. This is straight from an immigration officer's mouth.
14ksusha said:
yes they do care about your past travels during citizenship interview.
I don't know how I said it..but same people like the case here ..the nature and history of their country give them the exception the civil war is way over and the country is diveded to a new small country..
but for sambody fled cuba for example ..granted asylum ..get his green card ..and try to renew his passport and travel to COP :he gonna be legally in trouble during his citizenship.
14ksusha said:
As jubilee said,they do care about your past travels and Part 7 of N-400 asks about this.Now about going back to COP,the issue remains on the table of discussion.You should not be in trouble if you can be able to demonstrate with supporting materials that you no longer had a well-founded fear of persecution because of a fundamental change in circumstance in your country.I don't see why an Iraqi asylee PR can't go to Tikrit since uncle Saddam is no longer in power.If you can't be able to demonstrate this,you're in trouble big time.If you face a nasty cowboy,he may kick your ass and revoke your GC and your asylum status.You may be asked to leave the US.That's why every folk has to be very careful on this issue.It took you 4-5 years to get GC.Why not wait for 4 years get your US passport and go back HOME?
Everyone has to keep in mind that,a person to whom you hand your passport/Permit/RTD at port of entry is an immigration CLERK.He/she received a specific trainning related to his/her job.His/her job is WELCOMING passagers and CHECKING THEIRS DOCUMENTS.He/she has some LIMITED knowledge on immigration issues.A person who's gonna handle your case for citizenship is an Immigration OFFICER or an immigration JUDGE.These two persons has been trained for immigration matters.They know everything on the issue.Guys,don't be mistaken.Don't take the immigration clerk at airport to the immigration officer or judge and stop saying that ''I came back from COP and pass through the airport,there was no problem''.
RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005
cadel said:
Alow me to disagree. The immigration officer at the airpport is not just a clerk, but a trained officer who knows immigration rules and can actually detain you. An immigration judge will only handle your case for a citizenship if you had been denied and you are suing the USCIS. Of course they care if you travel to Cuba, nobody from the American soil is allowed to visit Cuba. However, once you have your GC in hand, it is your right to travel anywhere you want. You are no longer in an asylee status, you are a permanent resident and different rules kick in. Just like if you are married to US citizen and then get divorced right after you get your GC, they will not take your green card away. Same with work sponsored GC. Again, I know this from my experience of working in the immigration court. I just double checked with a former colleague of mine who used to be an interpreter for the court and then became an immigration officer (not a clerk) who handled GC interviews.
14ksusha said:
I SAID HE/SHE HAS A SPECIFIC TRAINNING ABOUT HIS JOB AND HAS SOME LIMITED KNOWLEDGE ON IMMIGRATION ISSUES. Again,don't compart an immigration clerk at airport or any other USCIS office to and immigration judge or an immigration officer.They all don't have same knowledge on all immigration issues.That's why you see some folks here getting wrong news when they call the 800 number to get info on theirs cases.Don't think anyone you see in uscis uniform knows everything.The guy you see at airport may tell you, you came back from COP,you're ok since you got GC,and when you see an immigration officer or an immigration judge,he/she is gonna tell you that going back to COP is forbihited for asylees even you got a GC.The guy you see at airport is there to welcome passengers and check theirs documents.Of cours yes he/she can take away your GC if he/she sees something wrong on that(or has been told that asylee PR can't go home) or if he sees something wrong on your passport or visa,he/she is not gonna let you enter US.That's his /her job.But he/she can't go far away(e.g. Be able to know that GC for asylee must be backdated one year from the date his/her I-485 was approved. Tell, you why RDs 2005 are getting approved while RDs 2000 are still waiting.Tell you if the law allows an asylee PR to go back to COP).Again folks,the issue is very important and everyone needs to be careful about what other folks say when returning from COP.You passed through the immigration check point without problem.The immigration clerk didn't give you hard time.But wait untill you get your US passport to claim a victory or advice other folks to go home after getting their GCs.
RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005
Lazerthegreat
Registered Users (C)
The point is that you should never under-estimate the power of any immigration personal sitting in front of you. He is definitely knowledgeable on immigration issues and trained to be sitting there in the first place. CIS has not yet reached a point where they would grab a walking guy on the street and make him sit there to stamp documents at the port of entry.
Totaly agreed with Cadel,
Like military, there is diffrent posts and different jobs, it looks same to us, but its not, Immigration judge which interviewing you may be more specific about Asylee/Refugee rules and cases, thats why they are more important from the passport checkers in airport. One is looking for you current situation and status, one is looking for whatever you have done since you came to this country to see if you are eligible to be a citizen of this country or you made some probelms or breaking the rules.
Again people which always had the same situation got different result, so there is no guarantee in non of the rules.
Regards,
Like military, there is diffrent posts and different jobs, it looks same to us, but its not, Immigration judge which interviewing you may be more specific about Asylee/Refugee rules and cases, thats why they are more important from the passport checkers in airport. One is looking for you current situation and status, one is looking for whatever you have done since you came to this country to see if you are eligible to be a citizen of this country or you made some probelms or breaking the rules.
Again people which always had the same situation got different result, so there is no guarantee in non of the rules.
Regards,
wantmygcnow
Volunteer Moderator
I just came back from europe and this is what I think. I came back and the officer didn't look at my RTD or scan it or anything. I think if somoene needs to travel to home country, they should a) First have a gc in hand, b) Wait at least 6-8 months or 1 year before travelling to home country, c) Have a valid supporting documentation in hand IF asked in an interview.
I think its a long shot that anyone will have trouble during citizenship process if you travel to home country but just to make yourself safer, its good idea to wait for some time after you get your GC to travel to your home country. Also having valid excuse in hand is also good plan for the future.
As they say Buyer Beware...What you do has a direct effect on yourself and no one else so use caution as always with immigration. Don't make thinks obvious that even a 10 year old can figure it out. Usually Fraud is seen miles away by an officer..no matter if he is a clerk or a trained immigration official.
If you have a sick family member, NO ONE in the USCIS will deny your citizenshp because of that but having proof is what this great country is about.
I think its a long shot that anyone will have trouble during citizenship process if you travel to home country but just to make yourself safer, its good idea to wait for some time after you get your GC to travel to your home country. Also having valid excuse in hand is also good plan for the future.
As they say Buyer Beware...What you do has a direct effect on yourself and no one else so use caution as always with immigration. Don't make thinks obvious that even a 10 year old can figure it out. Usually Fraud is seen miles away by an officer..no matter if he is a clerk or a trained immigration official.
If you have a sick family member, NO ONE in the USCIS will deny your citizenshp because of that but having proof is what this great country is about.