B1/B2 visitor visa rejected

[Triple Citizen]

There is no so called numb-nut policy per say. There are too many variables that come into play. Citizenship of the visitor, where the visitor lives, does the visitor have relatives in the US, age, marital status, etc. Consuls and POE inspectors look for patterns. Their adjudication of visit visa applicants and entry requests are clouded by too many variables for me to lay down into a comprehensive formula. I'll give you a very simple example. There are people living in Quebec who cross into Maine every time they want petrol for their vehicles. On the other extreme hand, visitors from poorer Asian countries may get into trouble if they visit the US three times in three years.

I can sense and understand your anger and frustration. Your family members are not the only one who have fallen prey to 214(B).

So what is the numb-nut policy on how often someone is allowed to visit their granddaughter living in the US ? once every two years, once every three, ???? Instead of this inane justification of US policy, this discussion would be better if someone could provide an answer of, how often and possible is it to get my FIL a visa to visit the US. Or a statement that the visitor visa process is fraught with too much peril, and its less troublesome to just get him a GC.. in which case, i'ld like to point out that the US Consulate goal of discouraging immigration by increasing the difficulty of getting a visa, is failing and ineffective....

 

[BigJoe5]

There is no so called numb-nut policy per say. There are too many variables that come into play. Citizenship of the visitor, where the visitor lives, does the visitor have relatives in the US, age, marital status, etc. Consuls and POE inspectors look for patterns. Their adjudication of visit visa applicants and entry requests are clouded by too many variables for me to lay down into a comprehensive formula. I'll give you a very simple example. There are people living in Quebec who cross into Maine every time they want petrol for their vehicles. On the other extreme hand, visitors from poorer Asian countries may get into trouble if they visit the US three times in three years.

I can sense and understand your anger and frustration. Your family members are not the only one who have fallen prey to 214(B).

Those Canadians came over, bought gas, perhaps had dinner or visited a mall, then returned home in a matter of hours. The alternate visitor comes, obtains permission for a 6 month stay, very often files for an extension at the last minute (which eventually gets denied) and they depart within 30 days of the denial which is perhaps after a 9 month "visit". They go home and return for another visit after 1 or 2 months back "home". On this second trip they explain that they did apply for an extension but it was denied and they departed "as instructed". They are given the benefit of the doubt and do it over again. Next time they are denied and told that they cannot "live in the U.S." on a "tourist visa". If they do manage to get back in they overstay until their adult LPR kid naturalizes and files for their adjustment of status.

THEN there are folks who just want to come and visit for brief periods only. But they do it back to back until their adult kid naturalizes and files for their adjustment of status.

THEN there are people who really do merely want to visit and see their grandkids once or twice a year......THOSE folks suffer for the duplicitous actions of the others.

 

[gemustafa]

so I do agree that there are many people who abuse the system, but I also think there are a lot of people who wouldn't apply for a GC if the visitor visa was easier.
The case of parents is one of those. If you're a grandparent, why restrict the visitor visa ? If you're a single female or male, I understand the risk... but seriously why restrict a grandparent ??

Plus I'll go ahead and play the economy issue, we do a whole lot more spending when my FIL is here, then when he's not.

I think the issue should be straightforward, and if you've gotten visa's before, and never stayed past them, there should be no reason to deny a future visa.. Its a policy that is ineffective in the intended goal.

Those Canadians came over, bought gas, perhaps had dinner or visited a mall, then returned home in a matter of hours. The alternate visitor comes, obtains permission for a 6 month stay, very often files for an extension at the last minute (which eventually gets denied) and they depart within 30 days of the denial which is perhaps after a 9 month "visit". They go home and return for another visit after 1 or 2 months back "home". On this second trip they explain that they did apply for an extension but it was denied and they departed "as instructed". They are given the benefit of the doubt and do it over again. Next time they are denied and told that they cannot "live in the U.S." on a "tourist visa". If they do manage to get back in they overstay until their adult LPR kid naturalizes and files for their adjustment of status.

THEN there are folks who just want to come and visit for brief periods only. But they do it back to back until their adult kid naturalizes and files for their adjustment of status.

THEN there are people who really do merely want to visit and see their grandkids once or twice a year......THOSE folks suffer for the duplicitous actions of the others.